Talk about a Niner locker room divided

Originally posted by baybreaker707:

Originally posted by pdxredandgold:

Originally posted by dmax:

Originally posted by pdxredandgold:

Originally posted by kray28:
The last pick was not on Alex. And the impact of the first INT was to pin the Eagles at their own 3 yd line.

I'm okay with those deep ball INTs, to be honest. At least he was throwing it deep for a change.

Still, it might have helped if Ginn had at least turned around to track the ball on that play.

Who was the last pick on? The oline? Alex saw the pressure and threw it. It was third down, he could have taken the sack and given the team another chance.

The impact of the first pick was that we didn't score and we lost by three.

um joe nedney missed three points..so what else ya got

That's rarity isn't it? Smith turning the ball over this season, isn't.

What's the impact of Gore's fumbles? Or the defense not sacking Kolb and allowing that TD to Celek? Manny left his feet way too early trying to dive at Kolb, instead of getting his hands on him first.

The impact of all of those things are negative, what's your point?

I know we didn't lose just because of A Smith's mistakes, but he did make a lot of mistakes.

[ Edited by pdxredandgold on Oct 11, 2010 at 10:00:43 ]

Originally posted by Pick6:

Originally posted by kray28:

Originally posted by boriken_9er:

Originally posted by kray28:
Smith proved he wasn't the problem last night, if you ask me.

We lost by 3 points and he get up a fumble for touchdown. He screwed up by play all by himself.

Did you see Vernon slip and fall on the hook route, or were your eyes closed and simply listening to Collinsworth's endless stream of sweet nothings?

Exactly... I was screaming at collinsworth after watching the replay... idiot. Davis went down and I think there was a LB right there inside of him who would have been all alone. The ball would have been incomplete at best... pick 6 (and here it comes) at worst.

How about Gore's TWO fumbles? Nedney missed a 40 yd field goal! Smith made it a 3 point game... it could have been worse.

NO this would/will not DIVIDE a locker room... unless the division is between David Carr and the rest of the team. The players want to win and I think its obvious their best chance to win is with Smith.

Actually, Davis did not go down. Yes he slipped, but quickly regained his balance. If that pass is thrown and thrown to the correct spot, (outside shoulder of reciever), there is no chance of a pick and at worse it falls incomplete. The nearest defender was coming from the inside, with the next outside defender 20 yards away covering another reciever. As a QB, you have to believe your guy is going to make a play unless you see him on the ground. Alex saw the slip ad quit on the play too quickly. This is exactly what Steve Young was talking about on radio last week. Play the game, and let er rip. Don't over-think the situation. Just put the ball where its suppose to be and leave the rest to the reciever.

[ Edited by NP9er on Oct 11, 2010 at 10:05:34 ]

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by boriken_9er:

Originally posted by kray28:
Smith proved he wasn't the problem last night, if you ask me.

We lost by 3 points and he get up a fumble for touchdown. He screwed up by play all by himself.

Also the two Ints, especially the last one was a game ender.

Everything leading to that last int was game ending. Gore's fumbles, missed fg, missed tackles, missed sack by Manny, false starts, missed fumble recovery. WTF the first int was more of a trusting your receiver to go up and get it in a one on one situation. Unfortunately Smith put trust in a speedster that can't adjust to the ball, we don't have a Brandon Marshall, Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald type of wr on our team that can do this. This coaching staff is more of a problem than anything, if they knew how to use their personnel like say a Gruden or Shanahan this team would be looking like a superbowl contender.

I think the locker room is already divided. It is hard for me to believe that the players are not privately having the same discussions or thoughts that we are.

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Originally posted by NP9er:

Originally posted by Pick6:

Originally posted by kray28:

Originally posted by boriken_9er:

Originally posted by kray28:
Smith proved he wasn't the problem last night, if you ask me.

We lost by 3 points and he get up a fumble for touchdown. He screwed up by play all by himself.

Did you see Vernon slip and fall on the hook route, or were your eyes closed and simply listening to Collinsworth's endless stream of sweet nothings?

Exactly... I was screaming at collinsworth after watching the replay... idiot. Davis went down and I think there was a LB right there inside of him who would have been all alone. The ball would have been incomplete at best... pick 6 (and here it comes) at worst.

How about Gore's TWO fumbles? Nedney missed a 40 yd field goal! Smith made it a 3 point game... it could have been worse.

NO this would/will not DIVIDE a locker room... unless the division is between David Carr and the rest of the team. The players want to win and I think its obvious their best chance to win is with Smith.

Actually, Davis did not go down. Yes he slipped, but quickly regained his balance. If that pass is thrown and thrown to the correct spot, (outside shoulder of reciever), there is no chance of a pick and at worse it falls incomplete. The nearest defender was coming from the inside, with the next outside defender 20 yards away covering another reciever. As a QB, you have to believe your guy is going to make a play unless you see him on the ground. Alex saw the slip ad quit on the play too quickly. This is exactly what Steve Young was talking about on radio last week. Play the game, and let er rip. Don't over-think the situation. Just put the ball where its suppose to be and leave the rest to the reciever.

WTF this same thing could be said about the pass that was made on that same play. Smith left the rest to the receiver, unfortunately the receiver wasn't Calvin Johnson or Brandon Marshall. It was Tedd F'n Ginn.

Originally posted by kray28:
The last pick was not on Alex. And the impact of the first INT was to pin the Eagles at their own 3 yd line.

I'm okay with those deep ball INTs, to be honest. At least he was throwing it deep for a change.

Still, it might have helped if Ginn had at least turned around to track the ball on that play.

why be ok with that pick when he had Vern wide open on the underneigth play.

Originally posted by SF4EVA:

Originally posted by kray28:
The last pick was not on Alex. And the impact of the first INT was to pin the Eagles at their own 3 yd line.

I'm okay with those deep ball INTs, to be honest. At least he was throwing it deep for a change.

Still, it might have helped if Ginn had at least turned around to track the ball on that play.

why be ok with that pick when he had Vern wide open on the underneigth play.

Alex missed throwing to the proper hot reads on those all out blitzes. Collinsworth noted it and even gave Smith credit when he finally threw a quick pass to the hot read.

Originally posted by pdxredandgold:

Originally posted by baybreaker707:

Originally posted by pdxredandgold:

Originally posted by dmax:

Originally posted by pdxredandgold:

Originally posted by kray28:
The last pick was not on Alex. And the impact of the first INT was to pin the Eagles at their own 3 yd line.

I'm okay with those deep ball INTs, to be honest. At least he was throwing it deep for a change.

Still, it might have helped if Ginn had at least turned around to track the ball on that play.

Who was the last pick on? The oline? Alex saw the pressure and threw it. It was third down, he could have taken the sack and given the team another chance.

The impact of the first pick was that we didn't score and we lost by three.

um joe nedney missed three points..so what else ya got

That's rarity isn't it? Smith turning the ball over this season, isn't.

What's the impact of Gore's fumbles? Or the defense not sacking Kolb and allowing that TD to Celek? Manny left his feet way too early trying to dive at Kolb, instead of getting his hands on him first.

The impact of all of those things are negative, what's your point?

I know we didn't lose just because of A Smith's mistakes, but he did make a lot of mistakes.

Nedney missed 3 points and we lost by 3 what's your point?

Originally posted by Shaj:

Originally posted by 1251alex:

Originally posted by Shaj:

Originally posted by kray28:
Smith proved he wasn't the problem last night, if you ask me.

That's absolutely not true. Alex has occasional flashes of briliance, but he has never done that for more than two drives in a game that I can ever remember, andit has always been combined with flashes of Ryan Leaf, and they are always done in the same game. It's not his potential, it's his inconsistency that's the problem, and after 6 years in the league, I don't know if he can fix that or not anymore. It's part of his DNA.

and hoping that your own team loses just so you can say you were right is part of your DNA. gtfo troll.

excuse me? wow, pretty low class commentary.

dont pretend like you dont come in here after every game to say "Look at me! I told you so!"

yet when smith plays well you either hide away with the tail between your legs like every smith basher does when he plays well or come in after the game and say, it was smiths fault.


yeah, smith had two turnovers, but Gore had costly turnovers too, and the O line sucked balls. The coaching sucks balls too.

Go ahead and keep complaining about Smith. thats all you ever do, complain.

Originally posted by baybreaker707:

Originally posted by pdxredandgold:

Originally posted by baybreaker707:

Originally posted by pdxredandgold:

Originally posted by dmax:

Originally posted by pdxredandgold:

Originally posted by kray28:
The last pick was not on Alex. And the impact of the first INT was to pin the Eagles at their own 3 yd line.

I'm okay with those deep ball INTs, to be honest. At least he was throwing it deep for a change.

Still, it might have helped if Ginn had at least turned around to track the ball on that play.

Who was the last pick on? The oline? Alex saw the pressure and threw it. It was third down, he could have taken the sack and given the team another chance.

The impact of the first pick was that we didn't score and we lost by three.

um joe nedney missed three points..so what else ya got

That's rarity isn't it? Smith turning the ball over this season, isn't.

What's the impact of Gore's fumbles? Or the defense not sacking Kolb and allowing that TD to Celek? Manny left his feet way too early trying to dive at Kolb, instead of getting his hands on him first.

The impact of all of those things are negative, what's your point?

I know we didn't lose just because of A Smith's mistakes, but he did make a lot of mistakes.

Nedney missed 3 points and we lost by 3 what's your point?

Dear lord,

OK, what I'm saying is that the team as a whole have been playing terribly. The original poster was saying that "Smith proved he wasn't the problem last night, if you ask me" and my comments have been stating that he may not have been THE problem but he played really badly.

If you had read through the post I commented on Nedney's miss already. Keep up.

[ Edited by pdxredandgold on Oct 11, 2010 at 10:27:00 ]

Originally posted by Shaj:

Originally posted by kray28:
Smith proved he wasn't the problem last night, if you ask me.

That's absolutely not true. Alex has occasional flashes of briliance, but he has never done that for more than two drives in a game that I can ever remember, andit has always been combined with flashes of Ryan Leaf, and they are always done in the same game. It's not his potential, it's his inconsistency that's the problem, and after 6 years in the league, I don't know if he can fix that or not anymore. It's part of his DNA.

dude the bears went through the same thing with rex grossman. he would play perfect one game then stink it up the next. this went on for a few seasons in chicago. he even helped take them to the superbowl!!! alex certainly hasn't done that ever, they need to part ways once the season is over.

Originally posted by Shaj:

Originally posted by kray28:
Smith proved he wasn't the problem last night, if you ask me.

That's absolutely not true. Alex has occasional flashes of briliance, but he has never done that for more than two drives in a game that I can ever remember, andit has always been combined with flashes of Ryan Leaf, and they are always done in the same game. It's not his potential, it's his inconsistency that's the problem, and after 6 years in the league, I don't know if he can fix that or not anymore. It's part of his DNA.

100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000% Ditto!!!!!
No matter what he is or is not. No matter how many coordinators, no matter how small his hands are, no matter the scheme, no matter the shoulder injuries -no matter NOTHING - HE IS INCONSISTENT!!!! And that alone is reason enough to say 6 years has been 3 years to long!!!!

Dirty

Originally posted by kray28:
Smith proved he wasn't the problem last night, if you ask me.

He sure isn't the answer neither.

Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:

Originally posted by kray28:
Smith proved he wasn't the problem last night, if you ask me.

He sure isn't the answer neither.

Originally posted by kray28:

Originally posted by boriken_9er:

Originally posted by kray28:
Smith proved he wasn't the problem last night, if you ask me.

We lost by 3 points and he get up a fumble for touchdown. He screwed up by play all by himself.

Did you see Vernon slip and fall on the hook route, or were your eyes closed and simply listening to Collinsworth's endless stream of sweet nothings?

He had to throw the ball away...oh wait, he did!!!