RAYE FIRED

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by vaden:
Singletary was caught lying about the playcalling problems just two weeks ago. Initially he said it was a "technical issue" and was later forced to admit Raye was the problem. So I have no confidence he's telling the truth now. We can't know what happened behind closed doors (at least not yet) but I'd bet half my savings that Singletary was forced into this.

he wasnt lying he didnt freaking know

That would be even worse, for him not to even know what's happening on his own team, but in actuality he didn't say he didn't know. He damn well knew. He just blamed it on the "headset." A blatant lie that Smith exposed when he told the media the truth, that Raye was slacking on getting the plays in.

excerpt:
http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20100912/sports/100919858?p=3&tc=pg

Quote:

The media asked Singletary about all those wasted timeouts and that weird delay of game.

“There were some problems with Alex’s helmet,” Singletary declared. “We had a similar situation last year. When the communication can’t come in and it’s spotty on the headset and you already can’t hear, it makes it very difficult. It’s not that the plays weren’t coming in. It’s that he wasn’t getting the plays because of technical issues. It happened a few times. We had to take timeouts because of the headset. It’s very frustrating. I guess it just happens to us.”

Wow. Singletary made it seem like a conspiracy — he claimed there was a similar situation last year; and he said, “I guess it just happens to us.” In this version, the mondo confusion on the field was an act of God, or an act of electricity or an act of betrayal by the Seahawks and none of it had anything to do with Raye or the other coaches.

OK, that was the official version for about 10 minutes. Then Smith spoke — please look for inconsistencies with the Singletary version:

“Management issues like that we’ve got to figure out,” he said. “They hurt us. We called three timeouts in the first half, took a delay-of-game as well — we’ve got to get that sorted out obviously, definitely had our issues today. I’m trying not to use (timeouts) in the first quarter especially, but we had a couple of situations there — third-and-short, field position — and I wasn’t willing to take five yards. I thought I’d preserve it, take time out, collect ourselves and try to take advantage.”

I wouldn't trust Singletary any more than I trusted Nolan, who lied about Smith's injury. It's a recurring problem with our coaches, and goes back to ownership being too cheap to pay for quality.

Originally posted by vaden:

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by vaden:
Singletary was caught lying about the playcalling problems just two weeks ago. Initially he said it was a "technical issue" and was later forced to admit Raye was the problem. So I have no confidence he's telling the truth now. We can't know what happened behind closed doors (at least not yet) but I'd bet half my savings that Singletary was forced into this.

he wasnt lying he didnt freaking know

That would be even worse, for him not to even know what's happening on his own team, but in actuality he didn't say he didn't know. He damn well knew. He just blamed it on the "headset." A blatant lie that Smith exposed when he told the media the truth, that Raye was slacking on getting the plays in.

excerpt:
http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20100912/sports/100919858?p=3&tc=pg

Quote:

The media asked Singletary about all those wasted timeouts and that weird delay of game.

“There were some problems with Alex’s helmet,” Singletary declared. “We had a similar situation last year. When the communication can’t come in and it’s spotty on the headset and you already can’t hear, it makes it very difficult. It’s not that the plays weren’t coming in. It’s that he wasn’t getting the plays because of technical issues. It happened a few times. We had to take timeouts because of the headset. It’s very frustrating. I guess it just happens to us.”

Wow. Singletary made it seem like a conspiracy — he claimed there was a similar situation last year; and he said, “I guess it just happens to us.” In this version, the mondo confusion on the field was an act of God, or an act of electricity or an act of betrayal by the Seahawks and none of it had anything to do with Raye or the other coaches.

OK, that was the official version for about 10 minutes. Then Smith spoke — please look for inconsistencies with the Singletary version:

“Management issues like that we’ve got to figure out,” he said. “They hurt us. We called three timeouts in the first half, took a delay-of-game as well — we’ve got to get that sorted out obviously, definitely had our issues today. I’m trying not to use (timeouts) in the first quarter especially, but we had a couple of situations there — third-and-short, field position — and I wasn’t willing to take five yards. I thought I’d preserve it, take time out, collect ourselves and try to take advantage.”

I wouldn't trust Singletary any more Nolan, who lied about Smith's injury. It's a recurring problem with our coaches, and goes back to ownership being too cheap to pay for quality.

It was Raye slacking. Sing thought it was something different than what Alex though. Big f**king deal.

Originally posted by defenderDX:


It was Raye slacking. Sing thought it was something different than what Alex though. Big f**king deal.

He was obviously lying, covering for Raye, and just last night he insisted Raye would stay on all season. It's pretty apparent that he was pressured to fire him.

Originally posted by vaden:

Originally posted by defenderDX:


It was Raye slacking. Sing thought it was something different than what Alex though. Big f**king deal.

He was obviously lying, covering for Raye, and just last night he insisted Raye would stay on all season. It's pretty apparent that he was pressured to fire him.

lol he wasnt lying. get over it already.

Originally posted by kray28:

Originally posted by A-R-S:
More convinced than ever this team is run by a bunch of f**king idiots.

Fire your OC after 3 games? Holy s**t. We are officially the worst team in the NFL.

There really was no other choice. Singletary made his bed though. A lot of these problems is the result of his own hubris.....him drinking his own kool-aid and thinking that "smashmouth" was all it was going to take.

He's too inexperienced to understand that the pro game is way more cerebral and detail oriented now. Why? Because the delta between the most talented team in the NFL and the least talented team in the league is really tiny. This is the age of parity and the true differentiator between winners and losers is strategy and game planning.

Agree 100%

Right now in the NFL it's the age of scheme, out of the box play calling and creating miss-matches with the talent on the roster. Not taking a line full of 330+ O-lineman and going 3 yards and a cloud of dust every play. Evey player is athletic, every coach is on another level...unfortunately we don't have a coach that can match wits with even a sub-par coach.

Its disgusting, but I was drawn in because of what Singletary was about, but his own saying of "Don't tell me, show me" is going to be his downfall. He can make motivational speeches and talk well in front of a crowd of athletes and that's...it.

This is gonna be bad folks.

Originally posted by kray28:

Originally posted by A-R-S:
More convinced than ever this team is run by a bunch of f**king idiots.

Fire your OC after 3 games? Holy s**t. We are officially the worst team in the NFL.

There really was no other choice. Singletary made his bed though. A lot of these problems is the result of his own hubris.....him drinking his own kool-aid and thinking that "smashmouth" was all it was going to take.

He's too inexperienced to understand that the pro game is way more cerebral and detail oriented now. Why? Because the delta between the most talented team in the NFL and the least talented team in the league is really tiny. This is the age of parity and the true differentiator between winners and losers is strategy and game planning.

Can't say it any better than that.

It's official: I want his collection of team boonie hats.

Originally posted by kray28:

Originally posted by A-R-S:
More convinced than ever this team is run by a bunch of f**king idiots.

Fire your OC after 3 games? Holy s**t. We are officially the worst team in the NFL.

There really was no other choice. Singletary made his bed though. A lot of these problems is the result of his own hubris.....him drinking his own kool-aid and thinking that "smashmouth" was all it was going to take.

He's too inexperienced to understand that the pro game is way more cerebral and detail oriented now. Why? Because the delta between the most talented team in the NFL and the least talented team in the league is really tiny. This is the age of parity and the true differentiator between winners and losers is strategy and game planning.

now, the rat is going to rat on singletary and take his job also.

Originally posted by verb1der:

Originally posted by kray28:

Originally posted by A-R-S:
More convinced than ever this team is run by a bunch of f**king idiots.

Fire your OC after 3 games? Holy s**t. We are officially the worst team in the NFL.

There really was no other choice. Singletary made his bed though. A lot of these problems is the result of his own hubris.....him drinking his own kool-aid and thinking that "smashmouth" was all it was going to take.

He's too inexperienced to understand that the pro game is way more cerebral and detail oriented now. Why? Because the delta between the most talented team in the NFL and the least talented team in the league is really tiny. This is the age of parity and the true differentiator between winners and losers is strategy and game planning.

Can't say it any better than that.

Yeah that post deserves a rep, and it's the number one thing I hope we see outta Johnson; the ability/aggressiveness to attack a weakness as opposed to imposing your will (ie smart football). -And it all starts with game-planning.

"Hi, I am Jimmy Raye!! Why did you done umble rumple merrrmumble fum sparks line dart up middle jam, fire un let me go?"

Originally posted by Chief:


"Hi, I am Jimmy Raye!! Why did you done umble rumple merrrmumble fum sparks line dart up middle jam, fire un let me go?"

One down, twelve more to go.

Originally posted by Chief:


"Hi, I am Jimmy Raye!! Why did you done umble rumple merrrmumble fum sparks line dart up middle jam, fire un let me go?"

My God, That's incredible! That looks just like Jimmy Raye! LMAO

Okay, one down, one left to go, the big one, the hard one, the HC, BM. the departure of JR is no surprise except for the 3 game into the season deal. What that tells me is that jed had a "coming to Jesus meeting" with BMbigmike, and said, it's winning on out or the hiway for the great BM experiment. this time we get an OC who has been either in ball, or coaching ball, since forever. No undistinguished stays, excelled when called upon, and has coached more than just LBs. Also as a protege of Riley(former usc OC, then HC at Beavers), Mj got WR coaching gigs with Beavers, then QB coach with riley at Chargers, then 2 yrs ATL WRs, then 1 yr QB coach ATL, then here in 2009. That, folks is what a resume is supposed to look like, and it is O dominated, which is a must for a guy with HC aspirations(not saying he does at present, just making a note).

MJ coaxed a lot better football out of shaun and alex last yr, and definitely had alex's attention and back this yr. Congrats to a deserving guy who finally has the correct resume for at least one position on the team(big Ray, Solari and Manusk are the others of note). Mj was the one on the sideline trying to calm alex down when it was apparent when he came off field that he was p.o.ed at the plays called. MJ settled him down. My guess was, it won't be for much longer, so just grin and bear it. Well that not much longer became exactly 3 games plus one day.HOrray. NOw, what remains to be seen is if BM tries to "ram it down their throats" with MJ. My guess is he wants to still play 1980s football, but i also bet jed said, it's Jimmy RAe, BM or the hiway...for you. so fire his azz. And that is how i guessed it went down.

Now the unspoken thing is what little nothings did jed whisper in BMs ear as they parted? Obviously i wasn't there, but i imagine it went something like: "BM your coaching, your actions are not adequate. You don't have the creds to be a HC. You need to go back and learn how to coach every other position except LB, and then do a stint at DC, and then you might, just might make it in the bigs. Furthermore, whereas 0-3 is unacceptable based on the personnel my daddy bought me, you still have time to rectify a deplorable situation of your own making. Notably, you don't know what the f**k you are doing on the football field, and bubba, it shows. Take all the time you need, but if we lose 2 more before the break, you are done. Out. Finito. So do whatever you need, but remember. I brot you here, and it turned out you were damaged (truly just inexperienced) goods. Make it happen in next 5 weeks because that is all the time you have. Two loses more and you are gone for sure. One loss, if bad enough , and brings out fans ire, and that one will be it for you. It's too bad because you were my hero, but when it all is said and done, you just didn't have anywhere near the creds, experience or smarts to be a HC, which i might add, is not an easy job. My heart is with you BM, but my wallet and fans tell me you are a failure. Do something to make me change my mind. JR is the first shoe to drop...you are the second" ...or something like that.

But i bet i am close, and i stand behind one bad loss and BM is gone, or two Ls and he is toast. Boys, he could be gone BEFORE midseason, and i would call that a huge success for the team. Even jed is starting to see that another 2 early Ls and we are done, out of it for the yr, before midseason even gets here. That is progress.That is the way it has to be to climb out of this horrid coaching pit.

Last here is something to keep an eye on. If BM thinks MJ is going to be his Boy, and carry his water, i believe he is making a fatal mistake. I bet the conversation with Bm about JR included,

"don't you even consider screwing with MJ and his playcalling... you are here on borrowed time and maybe mj can save your azz, but it is with the understanding HE calls the plays...not you. Also, forget about telling manusky anything. HE calls the D. YOu are just there to do what you do best...rah, rah. Nothing more. Definitely nothing more."

Perhaps i am the last great fool, but let's see how this plays out. ATL is tough, and winning that one never was on my list. I suppose it is how we play, not the loss that matters in that one. But if there are any missed blocks, muffed punts, fumbles, hikes over the qbs head, delayed play calls, frank rt, frank lt, frank down the middle, then i think next game is BMs last. If we win, BM gets a repreive. But he is only fighting to finish first the next 6 games, and then to make it to end of the season. "My money says he don't make it" Whatever, the BM era has come to a screeching, painful ...(lest i say it ?) BM.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Okay, one down, one left to go, the big one, the hard one, the HC, BM. the departure of JR is no surprise except for the 3 game into the season deal. What that tells me is that jed had a "coming to Jesus meeting" with BMbigmike, and said, it's winning on out or the hiway for the great BM experiment. this time we get an OC who has been either in ball, or coaching ball, since forever. No undistinguished stays, excelled when called upon, and has coached more than just LBs. Also as a protege of Riley(former usc OC, then HC at Beavers), Mj got WR coaching gigs with Beavers, then QB coach with riley at Chargers, then 2 yrs ATL WRs, then 1 yr QB coach ATL, then here in 2009. That, folks is what a resume is supposed to look like, and it is O dominated, which is a must for a guy with HC aspirations(not saying he does at present, just making a note).

MJ coaxed a lot better football out of shaun and alex last yr, and definitely had alex's attention and back this yr. Congrats to a deserving guy who finally has the correct resume for at least one position on the team(big Ray, Solari and Manusk are the others of note). Mj was the one on the sideline trying to calm alex down when it was apparent when he came off field that he was p.o.ed at the plays called. MJ settled him down. My guess was, it won't be for much longer, so just grin and bear it. Well that not much longer became exactly 3 games plus one day.HOrray. NOw, what remains to be seen is if BM tries to "ram it down their throats" with MJ. My guess is he wants to still play 1980s football, but i also bet jed said, it's Jimmy RAe, BM or the hiway...for you. so fire his azz. And that is how i guessed it went down.

Now the unspoken thing is what little nothings did jed whisper in BMs ear as they parted? Obviously i wasn't there, but i imagine it went something like: "BM your coaching, your actions are not adequate. You don't have the creds to be a HC. You need to go back and learn how to coach every other position except LB, and then do a stint at DC, and then you might, just might make it in the bigs. Furthermore, whereas 0-3 is unacceptable based on the personnel my daddy bought me, you still have time to rectify a deplorable situation of your own making. Notably, you don't know what the f**k you are doing on the football field, and bubba, it shows. Take all the time you need, but if we lose 2 more before the break, you are done. Out. Finito. So do whatever you need, but remember. I brot you here, and it turned out you were damaged (truly just inexperienced) goods. Make it happen in next 5 weeks because that is all the time you have. Two loses more and you are gone for sure. One loss, if bad enough , and brings out fans ire, and that one will be it for you. It's too bad because you were my hero, but when it all is said and done, you just didn't have anywhere near the creds, experience or smarts to be a HC, which i might add, is not an easy job. My heart is with you BM, but my wallet and fans tell me you are a failure. Do something to make me change my mind. JR is the first shoe to drop...you are the second" ...or something like that.

But i bet i am close, and i stand behind one bad loss and BM is gone, or two Ls and he is toast. Boys, he could be gone BEFORE midseason, and i would call that a huge success for the team. Even jed is starting to see that another 2 early Ls and we are done, out of it for the yr, before midseason even gets here. That is progress.That is the way it has to be to climb out of this horrid coaching pit.

Last here is something to keep an eye on. If BM thinks MJ is going to be his Boy, and carry his water, i believe he is making a fatal mistake. I bet the conversation with Bm about JR included,

"don't you even consider screwing with MJ and his playcalling... you are here on borrowed time and maybe mj can save your azz, but it is with the understanding HE calls the plays...not you. Also, forget about telling manusky anything. HE calls the D. YOu are just there to do what you do best...rah, rah. Nothing more. Definitely nothing more."

Perhaps i am the last great fool, but let's see how this plays out. ATL is tough, and winning that one never was on my list. I suppose it is how we play, not the loss that matters in that one. But if there are any missed blocks, muffed punts, fumbles, hikes over the qbs head, delayed play calls, frank rt, frank lt, frank down the middle, then i think next game is BMs last. If we win, BM gets a repreive. But he is only fighting to finish first the next 6 games, and then to make it to end of the season. "My money says he don't make it" Whatever, the BM era has come to a screeching, painful ...(lest i say it ?) BM.

cool story bro