Fanatical Reactionaries and Critics or Why Niner Talk Sucks

So who else can't wait for September 12th? If you've spent two minutes in Niner Talk this week, you'd know they certainly can't wait.

Don't know what I'm talking about?

Can you see Zeigler becoming our #2?, Dashon Goldson couldnt, Is Nedney's job at risk?, Whats up with Josh Morgan!?, Cut Parys Haralson?, What's Wrong With The Running Game?, Parys the problem? and smiths arm.

So What? The Webzone isn't Russia.
I truly believe that anyone with an opinion should have the right to express it without restrictions. However, the posts in question are by men and women (alright, not women) with enough brain functionality to sit down at a computer, turn it on and navigate the internet, but not quite enough to see the flawed logic in using the NFL Preseason as an exact barometer for judging talent, ability and success. I have a problem with fans openly criticizing or championing certain players based solely on training camp chatter and a few quarters of Preseason play. It's naive, immature and dangerous to initiate reactionary discussions if you don't fully understand the context of the situation.

I'm Just a Fanatic Optimist / Pessimist, Redrathman. Leave me alone.
I get it. You've got to be the first guy to scoop a theory (and you won't get tricked ever again!). You've recorded every 49ers since '89 and you spend all week breaking down game film. Your fandome is fantastically time consuming and the team loves you for it. Everyone else, including your dog, hates you for it. We don't want to read your lunatic fringe theories on Mike Singletary's vocal tones cross-referenced with the wrinkles on Jimmy Raye's forehead. Ultimately, your theories always lead back to your already made up opinion on whatever you've decided is wrong with the San Francisco 49ers.

Don't Stop Posting
The eclectic mix of opinions and knowledge levels make this place amazing. I've tried a half dozen forums, and they just simply don't compare. If you feel the desire to start a post, simply consider the following questions beforehand:

1. Am I facilitating new discussion about a topic that can't go into another thread?

2. Have I thought through my logic and checked my facts?

3. Will this post be relevant next month?

Happy Posting, Friends.

wut

You remind me of fropwns

Originally posted by luv49rs:
You remind me of fropwns

long live the fro! is he still around here?

As far as predictions go, that is kind of one of the best parts of sports, isn't it?

Cutting Haralson threads etc, are a little over the top. To say something like that, obviously you have to back it up with more than pointing out how he can't chase down Adrian Peterson.

Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:

Look at this post, made by what probably is a clueless fan (yet thinks he is a know-it-all) who probably wanted Vernon Davis cut in 2008 and Shaun Hill to be the starter last year at this time (I know those were majority postions held by many people who I couldn't help but laugh at on a daily basis). Guess what, I was violently opposed to both positions which were held by many "self-proclaimed 49er experts". Are you one of blind homers who thinks Josh Morgan is a talent that belongs on the field? I would assume so if you think it is absurd to ask whether or not Zeigler (a superior route runner with better hands) has a chance to take over the #2 spot.

In two seasons (28 games) Josh Morgan has 72 receptions for 846 yards and 6 TDs. They're not terrible numbers, but they're not great either. They break down to 2.5 receptions and 30 yards per game with a less than 25% chance of catching a TD pass. In fact, he should have 2 more TDs on that tally, but he dropped one wide open TD pass from Hill and got caught on what looked to be a sure TD against the Falcons last season because he didn't finish his run to the endzone. In Week 1 of the 2008 season he also alligator armed a TD pass from O'Sullivan at Seattle, but I forgave him because it was his first game.

As for Joe Nedney, why is it ridiculous to look for another kicker? Neil Rackers was cut by the Cardinals last season. He was 16/17 from FG range, with his lone miss coming from beyond 40 yards. Meanwhile, Joe Nedney was 17/21, with one of those misses coming from just over 30 yards. Rackers isn't great at kicking the ball off either, but he is better than Nedney. I understand that it is harder to make FGs in SF than most places, but I'm sure Rackers and many other kickers are up to the task. And as I said in the OP of the Nedney thread, he has admitted to suffering from severe pain in his kicking leg. Doesn't it seem like his time is running thin?

I don't mean to be a jerk, but I can't stand all of the arrogant and ignorant 49er fans who post on these message boards. "Heitmann is god!" "Shaun Hill is the best QB we have had since Young!" "Vernon Davis sucks and is the worst pick ever!" "Alex Smith will never be anything!" "Nedney should be a 49er until he is 65!" Please... anyone who insults me better be prepared to back up their points because I don't lose many arguments.

I think what you are doing is admirable but it might be lost on some folk here.

Originally posted by Kilgore_Trout:
Look at this post, made by what probably is a clueless fan (yet thinks he is a know-it-all) who probably wanted Vernon Davis cut in 2008 and Shaun Hill to be the starter last year at this time (I know those were majority postions help by many people who I couldn't help but laugh at on a daily basis). Guess what, I was violently opposed to both positions which were held by many "self-proclaimed 49er experts". Are you one of blind homers who thinks Josh Morgan is a talent that belongs on the field? I would assume so if you think it is absurd to ask whether or not Zeigler (a superior route runner with better hands) has a chance to take over the #2 spot.

In two seasons (28 games) Josh Morgan has 72 receptions for 846 yards and 6 TDs. They're not terrible numbers, but they're not great either. They break down to 2.5 receptions and 30 yards per game with a

you should start a new thread about this

There's nothing wrong with Morgan or Smith's arm.

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by Kilgore_Trout:
Look at this post, made by what probably is a clueless fan (yet thinks he is a know-it-all) who probably wanted Vernon Davis cut in 2008 and Shaun Hill to be the starter last year at this time (I know those were majority postions help by many people who I couldn't help but laugh at on a daily basis). Guess what, I was violently opposed to both positions which were held by many "self-proclaimed 49er experts". Are you one of blind homers who thinks Josh Morgan is a talent that belongs on the field? I would assume so if you think it is absurd to ask whether or not Zeigler (a superior route runner with better hands) has a chance to take over the #2 spot.

In two seasons (28 games) Josh Morgan has 72 receptions for 846 yards and 6 TDs. They're not terrible numbers, but they're not great either. They break down to 2.5 receptions and 30 yards per game with a

you should start a new thread about this

It is strange. My post is a lot longer than that and I keep trying to edit it but it won't allow anything past where it cuts off at.... hmmmm.....