Negativity doesn't help create a winning mentality.

Originally posted by amir_tn80:
So if all of us gathered around and started a circle jerk fest in honor of Alex Smith he will actually start showing some competence? You know I was always skeptical about this whole transcendental meditation thing. But after reading this post I am becoming a believer. Maybe we can tunnel our positive thoughts and feelings through the vortex and onto the football field. But we should keep this a secret. If fans of other teams found out they will do the same thing.

And maybe they'd stop fighting each other in the stands of stadiums.

Originally posted by billbird2111:

Originally posted by wolfpack52:
This is gay even by zone standards

CLASSIC slogan!! I want a mug like this one!

Your intentions are noble and just here, Kilgore... but you have to know how futile your OP is. Many fans are the way they are... and it's not gonna change. They are often ignorant, and often express the knee-jerk reactionary slop we have been reading for years. Why? There are many reasons:

1. Some people simply enjoy being overly critical and negative. Perhaps they received a ton of it in their sorry lives, and on a MB, they can exact revenge by dishing it out to players and members without any worries of consequence.

2. Some have dug themselves in so deep to their stance on a particular player, coach, etc. that they would rather slash their artery than to accept that they just might be wrong about their long-standing opinion.

3. Some are very lonely, and seek out attention. Maybe they can't get much attention in their daily lives. So what topic and stance will best get people to respond to them? Yep... you got it.

4. Some people just fish for reaction. They love to stir the pot, and feel good about themselves for evoking the carnage that follows.

5. Some people are decent fans, but rather cowardly of heart. They have been let down and sometimes crushed in the past by a player's or teams' deficiencies... so they simply refuse to open themselves up to positive thinking anymore. They would rather expect negative results, so that they can protect themselves and their fragile emotional state.

6. Some people think that they need to convince an entire group of people that their opinion is the right one... the only one. So they repeat the same negatives again and again to seek out approval... as this approval can help them reinforce their original opinion.

There are a lot of fans who are convinced that Smith will fail. There are some that are convinced he will excel. Many of us (like myself) accept either as possible... and don't feel a need to excessively bash or praise.

Good stuff though, K.T. and good to see you around, as you are one of the better posters I have read from.

Originally posted by oldman9er:
Your intentions are noble and just here, Kilgore... but you have to know how futile your OP is. Many fans are the way they are... and it's not gonna change. They are often ignorant, and often express the knee-jerk reactionary slop we have been reading for years. Why? There are many reasons:

1. Some people simply enjoy being overly critical and negative. Perhaps they received a ton of it in their sorry lives, and on a MB, they can exact revenge by dishing it out to players and members without any worries of consequence.

2. Some have dug themselves in so deep to their stance on a particular player, coach, etc. that they would rather slash their artery than to accept that they just might be wrong about their long-standing opinion.

3. Some are very lonely, and seek out attention. Maybe they can't get much attention in their daily lives. So what topic and stance will best get people to respond to them? Yep... you got it.

4. Some people just fish for reaction. They love to stir the pot, and feel good about themselves for evoking the carnage that follows.

5. Some people are decent fans, but rather cowardly of heart. They have been let down and sometimes crushed in the past by a player's or teams' deficiencies... so they simply refuse to open themselves up to positive thinking anymore. They would rather expect negative results, so that they can protect themselves and their fragile emotional state.

6. Some people think that they need to convince an entire group of people that their opinion is the right one... the only one. So they repeat the same negatives again and again to seek out approval... as this approval can help them reinforce their original opinion.

There are a lot of fans who are convinced that Smith will fail. There are some that are convinced he will excel. Many of us (like myself) accept either as possible... and don't feel a need to excessively bash or praise.

Good stuff though, K.T. and good to see you around, as you are one of the better posters I have read from.

Thanks for the nice words. I agree with most of what you said. The one thing I would add however, is that some people, when presented with information the right way, can change their mind, or their attitude or opinion. However, I'd say those people seem to be in the minority more often than not.

What the fans think has zero impact on what happens out on the field.

Originally posted by oldman9er:
Your intentions are noble and just here, Kilgore... but you have to know how futile your OP is. Many fans are the way they are... and it's not gonna change. They are often ignorant, and often express the knee-jerk reactionary slop we have been reading for years. Why? There are many reasons:

1. Some people simply enjoy being overly critical and negative. Perhaps they received a ton of it in their sorry lives, and on a MB, they can exact revenge by dishing it out to players and members without any worries of consequence.

2. Some have dug themselves in so deep to their stance on a particular player, coach, etc. that they would rather slash their artery than to accept that they just might be wrong about their long-standing opinion.

3. Some are very lonely, and seek out attention. Maybe they can't get much attention in their daily lives. So what topic and stance will best get people to respond to them? Yep... you got it.

4. Some people just fish for reaction. They love to stir the pot, and feel good about themselves for evoking the carnage that follows.

5. Some people are decent fans, but rather cowardly of heart. They have been let down and sometimes crushed in the past by a player's or teams' deficiencies... so they simply refuse to open themselves up to positive thinking anymore. They would rather expect negative results, so that they can protect themselves and their fragile emotional state.

6. Some people think that they need to convince an entire group of people that their opinion is the right one... the only one. So they repeat the same negatives again and again to seek out approval... as this approval can help them reinforce their original opinion.

There are a lot of fans who are convinced that Smith will fail. There are some that are convinced he will excel. Many of us (like myself) accept either as possible... and don't feel a need to excessively bash or praise.

Good stuff though, K.T. and good to see you around, as you are one of the better posters I have read from.

It's funny how people have to come up with reasons other people don't view things through homer goggles.

It's called reality.

There are certain people who just hate, but the majority of people saying "negative" things have strong arguments because what they're saying is generally the truth. Optimists counter those truths with excuses.

Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by oldman9er:
Your intentions are noble and just here, Kilgore... but you have to know how futile your OP is. Many fans are the way they are... and it's not gonna change. They are often ignorant, and often express the knee-jerk reactionary slop we have been reading for years. Why? There are many reasons:

1. Some people simply enjoy being overly critical and negative. Perhaps they received a ton of it in their sorry lives, and on a MB, they can exact revenge by dishing it out to players and members without any worries of consequence.

2. Some have dug themselves in so deep to their stance on a particular player, coach, etc. that they would rather slash their artery than to accept that they just might be wrong about their long-standing opinion.

3. Some are very lonely, and seek out attention. Maybe they can't get much attention in their daily lives. So what topic and stance will best get people to respond to them? Yep... you got it.

4. Some people just fish for reaction. They love to stir the pot, and feel good about themselves for evoking the carnage that follows.

5. Some people are decent fans, but rather cowardly of heart. They have been let down and sometimes crushed in the past by a player's or teams' deficiencies... so they simply refuse to open themselves up to positive thinking anymore. They would rather expect negative results, so that they can protect themselves and their fragile emotional state.

6. Some people think that they need to convince an entire group of people that their opinion is the right one... the only one. So they repeat the same negatives again and again to seek out approval... as this approval can help them reinforce their original opinion.

There are a lot of fans who are convinced that Smith will fail. There are some that are convinced he will excel. Many of us (like myself) accept either as possible... and don't feel a need to excessively bash or praise.

Good stuff though, K.T. and good to see you around, as you are one of the better posters I have read from.

It's funny how people have to come up with reasons other people don't view things through homer goggles.

It's called reality.

There are certain people who just hate, but the majority of people saying "negative" things have strong arguments because what they're saying is generally the truth. Optimists counter those truths with excuses.

I'm not opposed to critical arguments. Negativity is different, and being negative for the purpose of being negative, especially when it is unreasonable negativity, is what I'm opposed to and what this thread is about.

The Niners would have to give me a reason or two to be a homer....it's been a good while since they have.

So I'm a realist, my expectations are grounded. So should yours be. This is not a SB contender. I can hopefully and very optimistically say that they are contenders though...as in they might win the division/make the playoffs, and even possibly win a playoff game. But a lot has to go right in order for even that to happen.

Anything beyond that is verging into unlikely and Cinderella territory. When was the last time this team beat a serious contender not named the Cardinals? In the regular season that is upcoming, that should be goal number 1, beating a serious contender to show the league that this team isn't a fluke and might have actually arrived. That would also go a long way to proving to me that this team has what it takes to match wits with the NFL's best. So far since 2003, they have failed to do that in any consistent fashion.

I guess 30+ million isn't enough positive reinforcement for poor little Alex

This thread needs a bump. What is up with all of the hate? Did you know Pro Football Weekly said we were the sharpest team this preseason? That doesn't pencil us in for Lombardi Trophy #6, but it does say that we're an improving and continuing to improve football team, something true 49er fans know from watching games for the past four seaons. And due to it being the case that we competed with championship caliber teams last year and lost narrowly (and on the road), that very well could mean we are in fact a championship caliber team at this very moment and ready to prove it this season.

Get amped, ...not negative or whiney.

I am often called a Hater by the kids on this site, I just feel there is nothing wrong being self critical in examining any part of your life were you expect excellence.

Some people call it hate I call it high standards.

Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
I am often called a Hater by the kids on this site, I just feel there is nothing wrong being self critical in examining any part of your life were you expect excellence.

Some people call it hate I call it high standards.

HATER

Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
I am often called a Hater by the kids on this site, I just feel there is nothing wrong being self critical in examining any part of your life were you expect excellence.

Some people call it hate I call it high standards.

There is a difference between criticism and negativity. That point has been made many times in this thread. Also, there is a difference between high standards and unreasonable standards.

This thread is very revealing about the diversity of sophistication on this site. Some here are higher level thinkers and some are dumber than pig excrement.

[ Edited by joebbadass on Sep 10, 2010 at 19:32:04 ]

Originally posted by joebbadass:
This thread is very revealing about the diversity of sophistication on this site. Some here are higher level thinkers are some are dumber than pig excrement.

If you think about it, where isn't that the case?