vote for montana as the best all time

Originally posted by Lott49ersFan:

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by Lott49ersFan:
Why is Brady in the top 10? He never won anything, Vinatieri always took care of that part for him...

Sorry, I was unaware that Brady had you hanging from hit nuts.

NFL records

* Highest total passing touchdowns in a regular season: 50 (2007)
* Highest total passing touchdowns in a season: 56 (2007)
* Highest total passing touchdowns in a single quarter: 5 (2009)
* Highest completion percentage in a single game: 92.9% (2007)
* Largest touchdown to interception difference: +42 (2007)
* NFL record for most consecutive wins in post season: 10 (2001, 2003, 2004)
* Tied for most completions in a Super Bowl: 32 (XXXVIII)
* Most career Super Bowl completions: 100 (XXXVI, XXXVIII, XXXIX, XLII)
* Most games with three or more touchdown passes: 12 (2007)
* Most touchdown passes in a month: 20 (October 2007)
* Only quarterback to start and win 3 Super Bowls before his 28th birthday.
* Most career overtime wins without a defeat: 7-0
* Most consecutive playoff wins by a quarterback: 10 (2001, 2003, 2004)
* Most consecutive completions to start a career without an interception: 162
* Only quarterback to have 3+ passing touchdowns in 10 straight games.

Career bests

* Highest single-game quarterback rating: 158.3 (at Miami, October 21, 2007) Perfect Rating
* Highest single-season quarterback rating: 117.2 (2007) 2nd highest all-time
* Highest single-game completion percentage: 92.9% (vs. Jacksonville, January 12, 2008) NFL Record
* Highest total passing touchdowns in a game: 6 (at Miami, October 21, 2007 and vs. Tennessee, October 18, 2009)
* Highest total passing touchdowns in a quarter: 5 (vs. Tennessee, October 18, 2009) NFL Record
* Highest total passing touchdowns in a regular season: 50 (2007) NFL Record
* Highest total passing yards in a game: 410 (vs. Kansas City, 2002)
* Highest total passing yards in a season: 4,806 (2007)
* Lowest interception total, season (minimum 2 starts): 8 (2007)
* Largest touchdown to interception difference: +42 (2007) NFL Record

but venetieri kickem da feeeeld gowels!!!! get off it, theres no ignoring how awesome brady is.

Montana, Brady, Young, Manning and Elway are my top five. just based on their styles and pure enjoyment of watching them play. Young is my favorite but id say montana and brady are both over him.

Originally posted by pantstickle:
Aikman is the most overrated qb on the list. Bam!

I wouldn't in a million years claim Aikman was overrated. Why? Cause as a 9er fan I've heard it said about Montana and Young. All because they "had stars to throw to".

Just like Plunkett was a starter due to injury. So what. So was Brady. Anyone that uses that argument needs to round file it. This is Football not Baseball. Injuries and Football go hand in hand.

I agree that some players don't get credit. That happens. But if it's off the field then it shouldn't be an issue. I mean Cris Carter had his drug problem but you wouldn't use it against him in ranking Receivers.

So it shouldn't even be used to keep a guy out of the argument. Besides Stabler played at a time when people experimented and it could have been a pain issue developed while playing the game. I won't hold that against anyone.

Now you get busted for trafficking illegal narcotics like that one Cowturd player then you don't belong on ANY list.

I never said Baugh or Graham sucked. I just think that some players could have been added to the category. Just cause you have 20 spots, doesn't mean that you should be limited to 20 players. Some people don't think that Graham and Baugh fit the bill because the league and era they both played in was small and a long time ago.

As has been pointed out not many older fans go to voting sites. Which goes right along with my stance that the youngsters vote for the guys they know. Does anybody truly believe that Favre should be ranked as high as he is if he had retired 5 or 6 years ago back when Green Bay was trying to push him out the door?

I don't.

~Ceadder

Originally posted by hondakillerzx:

Originally posted by Lott49ersFan:

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by Lott49ersFan:
Why is Brady in the top 10? He never won anything, Vinatieri always took care of that part for him...

Sorry, I was unaware that Brady had you hanging from hit nuts.

NFL records

* Highest total passing touchdowns in a regular season: 50 (2007)
* Highest total passing touchdowns in a season: 56 (2007)
* Highest total passing touchdowns in a single quarter: 5 (2009)
* Highest completion percentage in a single game: 92.9% (2007)
* Largest touchdown to interception difference: +42 (2007)
* NFL record for most consecutive wins in post season: 10 (2001, 2003, 2004)
* Tied for most completions in a Super Bowl: 32 (XXXVIII)
* Most career Super Bowl completions: 100 (XXXVI, XXXVIII, XXXIX, XLII)
* Most games with three or more touchdown passes: 12 (2007)
* Most touchdown passes in a month: 20 (October 2007)
* Only quarterback to start and win 3 Super Bowls before his 28th birthday.
* Most career overtime wins without a defeat: 7-0
* Most consecutive playoff wins by a quarterback: 10 (2001, 2003, 2004)
* Most consecutive completions to start a career without an interception: 162
* Only quarterback to have 3+ passing touchdowns in 10 straight games.

Career bests

* Highest single-game quarterback rating: 158.3 (at Miami, October 21, 2007) Perfect Rating
* Highest single-season quarterback rating: 117.2 (2007) 2nd highest all-time
* Highest single-game completion percentage: 92.9% (vs. Jacksonville, January 12, 2008) NFL Record
* Highest total passing touchdowns in a game: 6 (at Miami, October 21, 2007 and vs. Tennessee, October 18, 2009)
* Highest total passing touchdowns in a quarter: 5 (vs. Tennessee, October 18, 2009) NFL Record
* Highest total passing touchdowns in a regular season: 50 (2007) NFL Record
* Highest total passing yards in a game: 410 (vs. Kansas City, 2002)
* Highest total passing yards in a season: 4,806 (2007)
* Lowest interception total, season (minimum 2 starts): 8 (2007)
* Largest touchdown to interception difference: +42 (2007) NFL Record

but venetieri kickem da feeeeld gowels!!!! get off it, theres no ignoring how awesome brady is.

Montana, Brady, Young, Manning and Elway are my top five. just based on their styles and pure enjoyment of watching them play. Young is my favorite but id say montana and brady are both over him.

honda, love ya man but Brady doesn't beat Manning. manning has more statistical records than Brady could even hope to have. The Colts lost Defensively to the Pats and then lets not forget Videogate. You can't tell me that Bellichick only taped the opponents that one season. To me that drops Brady down the ladder a few rungs. It's hard not to win when you have first hand knowledge of your Opponents signals.

MLB didn't let the Giants get away with it. Goodell just gave the Pats a slap on the wrist as far as I'm concerned. I mean you might as well caught BB shooting his entire team with Roids. That's how much of an unfair advantage the Pats had over the entire AFL at the very least.

Manning kicks ass just by audiblizing.

~Ceadder

[ Edited by Ceadderman on Aug 5, 2010 at 21:25:50 ]

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by hondakillerzx:

Originally posted by Lott49ersFan:

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by Lott49ersFan:
Why is Brady in the top 10? He never won anything, Vinatieri always took care of that part for him...

Sorry, I was unaware that Brady had you hanging from hit nuts.

NFL records

* Highest total passing touchdowns in a regular season: 50 (2007)
* Highest total passing touchdowns in a season: 56 (2007)
* Highest total passing touchdowns in a single quarter: 5 (2009)
* Highest completion percentage in a single game: 92.9% (2007)
* Largest touchdown to interception difference: +42 (2007)
* NFL record for most consecutive wins in post season: 10 (2001, 2003, 2004)
* Tied for most completions in a Super Bowl: 32 (XXXVIII)
* Most career Super Bowl completions: 100 (XXXVI, XXXVIII, XXXIX, XLII)
* Most games with three or more touchdown passes: 12 (2007)
* Most touchdown passes in a month: 20 (October 2007)
* Only quarterback to start and win 3 Super Bowls before his 28th birthday.
* Most career overtime wins without a defeat: 7-0
* Most consecutive playoff wins by a quarterback: 10 (2001, 2003, 2004)
* Most consecutive completions to start a career without an interception: 162
* Only quarterback to have 3+ passing touchdowns in 10 straight games.

Career bests

* Highest single-game quarterback rating: 158.3 (at Miami, October 21, 2007) Perfect Rating
* Highest single-season quarterback rating: 117.2 (2007) 2nd highest all-time
* Highest single-game completion percentage: 92.9% (vs. Jacksonville, January 12, 2008) NFL Record
* Highest total passing touchdowns in a game: 6 (at Miami, October 21, 2007 and vs. Tennessee, October 18, 2009)
* Highest total passing touchdowns in a quarter: 5 (vs. Tennessee, October 18, 2009) NFL Record
* Highest total passing touchdowns in a regular season: 50 (2007) NFL Record
* Highest total passing yards in a game: 410 (vs. Kansas City, 2002)
* Highest total passing yards in a season: 4,806 (2007)
* Lowest interception total, season (minimum 2 starts): 8 (2007)
* Largest touchdown to interception difference: +42 (2007) NFL Record

but venetieri kickem da feeeeld gowels!!!! get off it, theres no ignoring how awesome brady is.

Montana, Brady, Young, Manning and Elway are my top five. just based on their styles and pure enjoyment of watching them play. Young is my favorite but id say montana and brady are both over him.

honda, love ya man but Brady doesn't beat Manning. manning has more statistical records than Brady could even hope to have. The Colts lost Defensively to the Pats and then lets not forget Videogate. You can't tell me that Bellichick only taped the opponents that one season. To me that drops Brady down the ladder a few rungs. It's hard not to win when you have first hand knowledge of your Opponents signals.

MLB didn't let the Giants get away with it. Goodell just gave the Pats a slap on the wrist as far as I'm concerned. I mean you might as well caught BB shooting his entire team with Roids. That's how much of an unfair advantage the Pats had over the entire AFL at the very least.

Manning kicks ass just by audiblizing.

~Ceadder

I'd rather start Brady over Manning any day. Peyton is still a choke artist in the clutch.

Originally posted by zillabeast:

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by hondakillerzx:

Originally posted by Lott49ersFan:

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by Lott49ersFan:
Why is Brady in the top 10? He never won anything, Vinatieri always took care of that part for him...

Sorry, I was unaware that Brady had you hanging from hit nuts.

NFL records

* Highest total passing touchdowns in a regular season: 50 (2007)
* Highest total passing touchdowns in a season: 56 (2007)
* Highest total passing touchdowns in a single quarter: 5 (2009)
* Highest completion percentage in a single game: 92.9% (2007)
* Largest touchdown to interception difference: +42 (2007)
* NFL record for most consecutive wins in post season: 10 (2001, 2003, 2004)
* Tied for most completions in a Super Bowl: 32 (XXXVIII)
* Most career Super Bowl completions: 100 (XXXVI, XXXVIII, XXXIX, XLII)
* Most games with three or more touchdown passes: 12 (2007)
* Most touchdown passes in a month: 20 (October 2007)
* Only quarterback to start and win 3 Super Bowls before his 28th birthday.
* Most career overtime wins without a defeat: 7-0
* Most consecutive playoff wins by a quarterback: 10 (2001, 2003, 2004)
* Most consecutive completions to start a career without an interception: 162
* Only quarterback to have 3+ passing touchdowns in 10 straight games.

Career bests

* Highest single-game quarterback rating: 158.3 (at Miami, October 21, 2007) Perfect Rating
* Highest single-season quarterback rating: 117.2 (2007) 2nd highest all-time
* Highest single-game completion percentage: 92.9% (vs. Jacksonville, January 12, 2008) NFL Record
* Highest total passing touchdowns in a game: 6 (at Miami, October 21, 2007 and vs. Tennessee, October 18, 2009)
* Highest total passing touchdowns in a quarter: 5 (vs. Tennessee, October 18, 2009) NFL Record
* Highest total passing touchdowns in a regular season: 50 (2007) NFL Record
* Highest total passing yards in a game: 410 (vs. Kansas City, 2002)
* Highest total passing yards in a season: 4,806 (2007)
* Lowest interception total, season (minimum 2 starts): 8 (2007)
* Largest touchdown to interception difference: +42 (2007) NFL Record

but venetieri kickem da feeeeld gowels!!!! get off it, theres no ignoring how awesome brady is.

Montana, Brady, Young, Manning and Elway are my top five. just based on their styles and pure enjoyment of watching them play. Young is my favorite but id say montana and brady are both over him.

honda, love ya man but Brady doesn't beat Manning. manning has more statistical records than Brady could even hope to have. The Colts lost Defensively to the Pats and then lets not forget Videogate. You can't tell me that Bellichick only taped the opponents that one season. To me that drops Brady down the ladder a few rungs. It's hard not to win when you have first hand knowledge of your Opponents signals.

MLB didn't let the Giants get away with it. Goodell just gave the Pats a slap on the wrist as far as I'm concerned. I mean you might as well caught BB shooting his entire team with Roids. That's how much of an unfair advantage the Pats had over the entire AFL at the very least.

Manning kicks ass just by audiblizing.

~Ceadder

I'd rather start Brady over Manning any day. Peyton is still a choke artist in the clutch.

What?

So you completely disregard VideoGate? And pardon me but didn't Brady "choke in the clutch" the last Super Bowl he was in?

I like the guy but please.

~Ceadder

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by zillabeast:

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by hondakillerzx:

Originally posted by Lott49ersFan:

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by Lott49ersFan:
Why is Brady in the top 10? He never won anything, Vinatieri always took care of that part for him...

Sorry, I was unaware that Brady had you hanging from hit nuts.

NFL records

* Highest total passing touchdowns in a regular season: 50 (2007)
* Highest total passing touchdowns in a season: 56 (2007)
* Highest total passing touchdowns in a single quarter: 5 (2009)
* Highest completion percentage in a single game: 92.9% (2007)
* Largest touchdown to interception difference: +42 (2007)
* NFL record for most consecutive wins in post season: 10 (2001, 2003, 2004)
* Tied for most completions in a Super Bowl: 32 (XXXVIII)
* Most career Super Bowl completions: 100 (XXXVI, XXXVIII, XXXIX, XLII)
* Most games with three or more touchdown passes: 12 (2007)
* Most touchdown passes in a month: 20 (October 2007)
* Only quarterback to start and win 3 Super Bowls before his 28th birthday.
* Most career overtime wins without a defeat: 7-0
* Most consecutive playoff wins by a quarterback: 10 (2001, 2003, 2004)
* Most consecutive completions to start a career without an interception: 162
* Only quarterback to have 3+ passing touchdowns in 10 straight games.

Career bests

* Highest single-game quarterback rating: 158.3 (at Miami, October 21, 2007) Perfect Rating
* Highest single-season quarterback rating: 117.2 (2007) 2nd highest all-time
* Highest single-game completion percentage: 92.9% (vs. Jacksonville, January 12, 2008) NFL Record
* Highest total passing touchdowns in a game: 6 (at Miami, October 21, 2007 and vs. Tennessee, October 18, 2009)
* Highest total passing touchdowns in a quarter: 5 (vs. Tennessee, October 18, 2009) NFL Record
* Highest total passing touchdowns in a regular season: 50 (2007) NFL Record
* Highest total passing yards in a game: 410 (vs. Kansas City, 2002)
* Highest total passing yards in a season: 4,806 (2007)
* Lowest interception total, season (minimum 2 starts): 8 (2007)
* Largest touchdown to interception difference: +42 (2007) NFL Record

but venetieri kickem da feeeeld gowels!!!! get off it, theres no ignoring how awesome brady is.

Montana, Brady, Young, Manning and Elway are my top five. just based on their styles and pure enjoyment of watching them play. Young is my favorite but id say montana and brady are both over him.

honda, love ya man but Brady doesn't beat Manning. manning has more statistical records than Brady could even hope to have. The Colts lost Defensively to the Pats and then lets not forget Videogate. You can't tell me that Bellichick only taped the opponents that one season. To me that drops Brady down the ladder a few rungs. It's hard not to win when you have first hand knowledge of your Opponents signals.

MLB didn't let the Giants get away with it. Goodell just gave the Pats a slap on the wrist as far as I'm concerned. I mean you might as well caught BB shooting his entire team with Roids. That's how much of an unfair advantage the Pats had over the entire AFL at the very least.

Manning kicks ass just by audiblizing.

~Ceadder

I'd rather start Brady over Manning any day. Peyton is still a choke artist in the clutch.

What?

So you completely disregard VideoGate? And pardon me but didn't Brady "choke in the clutch" the last Super Bowl he was in?

I like the guy but please.

~Ceadder

Agreed. Manning is definitely better than Brady. Without Bellicheat, Brady is nothing but a state whore.

What a lot of you youngsters overlook when reviewing stats of quarterbacks is the rule changes that I believe happened in the early 80's. Up until 1979, I can vouch for that as that was the last year I had pads on in college, it was legal for a defensive lineman to hit an offensive lineman in the head. If you wore hand and forearm pads with tape underneath it was like having 2 clubs. The offensive lineman could not extend his hands or he would get flagged. Most offensive lineman were told to hold their own jerseys to avoid illegal use of hands or holding penalties. It was very difficult to pass block back in the day because of the rules, so QBs had way less time to throw. Also illegal contact penalties after 5 yards were not in place, and you almost had to tackle the receiver before the ball got there to get hit with pass interference. The rules greatly favored the defense when trying to stop the pass, a 200 yard passing game was rarer 40 years ago than a 350 yard passing game is today. A one to one TD to interception ratio was considered excellent where today you have to be at least 2-1 or you are considered garbage.
I think 10 QBs threw for over 4,000 yards last year. 40 years ago a 3,000 yard season was rare. It had nothing to do with the skills of the passers, it was the rules.

[ Edited by BobS on Aug 6, 2010 at 18:59:38 ]

Originally posted by BobS:
What a lot of you youngsters overlook when reviewing stats of quarterbacks is the rule changes that I believe happened in the early 80's. Up until 1979, I can vouch for that as that was the last year I had pads on in college, it was legal for a defensive lineman to hit an offensive lineman in the head. If you wore hand and forearm pads with tape underneath it was like having 2 clubs. The offensive lineman could not extend his hands or he would get flagged. Most offensive lineman were told to hold their own jerseys to avoid illegal use of hands or holding penalties. It was very difficult to pass block back in the day because of the rules, so QBs had way less time to throw. Also illegal contact penalties after 5 yards were not in place, and you almost had to tackle the receiver before the ball got there to get hit with pass interference. The rules greatly favored the defense when trying to stop the pass, a 200 yard passing game was rarer 40 years ago than a 350 yard passing game is today. A one to one TD to interception ration was considered excellent where today you have to be at least 2-1 or you are considered garbage.
I think 10 QBs threw for over 4,000 yards last year. 40 years ago a 3,000 yard season was rare. It had nothing to do with the skills of the passers, it was the rules.

Agreed. I remember a lot of those rules from when I was a young fan. I've been watching the game since before I was 5. DBs' could clothesline Receivers too if I remember correctly. Jack Tatum killed guys with that type of hit. He wasn't nicknamed "the Assassin" cause he was played 1st person shooters. Deacon Jones would wrap tin or steel to his palms and would whack guys on their ear hole to disorient them.

Personally yardage means very little to me in how I choose to order my rankings. As you pointed out the rules have skewed the stats. Though I have to say with the allowance for the DB to knock the Receivers out of bounds it's starting to be a bit fairer. No more can a Receiver go up and get a ball that would have been out of bounds and get the Reception because "he would have landed in bounds with it anyway". It's either catch the ball and get both feet down or no catch. That's how it should have been since forever.

~Ceadder

[ Edited by Ceadderman on Aug 6, 2010 at 16:15:16 ]

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by zillabeast:

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by hondakillerzx:

Originally posted by Lott49ersFan:

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by Lott49ersFan:
Why is Brady in the top 10? He never won anything, Vinatieri always took care of that part for him...

Sorry, I was unaware that Brady had you hanging from hit nuts.

NFL records

* Highest total passing touchdowns in a regular season: 50 (2007)
* Highest total passing touchdowns in a season: 56 (2007)
* Highest total passing touchdowns in a single quarter: 5 (2009)
* Highest completion percentage in a single game: 92.9% (2007)
* Largest touchdown to interception difference: +42 (2007)
* NFL record for most consecutive wins in post season: 10 (2001, 2003, 2004)
* Tied for most completions in a Super Bowl: 32 (XXXVIII)
* Most career Super Bowl completions: 100 (XXXVI, XXXVIII, XXXIX, XLII)
* Most games with three or more touchdown passes: 12 (2007)
* Most touchdown passes in a month: 20 (October 2007)
* Only quarterback to start and win 3 Super Bowls before his 28th birthday.
* Most career overtime wins without a defeat: 7-0
* Most consecutive playoff wins by a quarterback: 10 (2001, 2003, 2004)
* Most consecutive completions to start a career without an interception: 162
* Only quarterback to have 3+ passing touchdowns in 10 straight games.

Career bests

* Highest single-game quarterback rating: 158.3 (at Miami, October 21, 2007) Perfect Rating
* Highest single-season quarterback rating: 117.2 (2007) 2nd highest all-time
* Highest single-game completion percentage: 92.9% (vs. Jacksonville, January 12, 2008) NFL Record
* Highest total passing touchdowns in a game: 6 (at Miami, October 21, 2007 and vs. Tennessee, October 18, 2009)
* Highest total passing touchdowns in a quarter: 5 (vs. Tennessee, October 18, 2009) NFL Record
* Highest total passing touchdowns in a regular season: 50 (2007) NFL Record
* Highest total passing yards in a game: 410 (vs. Kansas City, 2002)
* Highest total passing yards in a season: 4,806 (2007)
* Lowest interception total, season (minimum 2 starts): 8 (2007)
* Largest touchdown to interception difference: +42 (2007) NFL Record

but venetieri kickem da feeeeld gowels!!!! get off it, theres no ignoring how awesome brady is.

Montana, Brady, Young, Manning and Elway are my top five. just based on their styles and pure enjoyment of watching them play. Young is my favorite but id say montana and brady are both over him.

honda, love ya man but Brady doesn't beat Manning. manning has more statistical records than Brady could even hope to have. The Colts lost Defensively to the Pats and then lets not forget Videogate. You can't tell me that Bellichick only taped the opponents that one season. To me that drops Brady down the ladder a few rungs. It's hard not to win when you have first hand knowledge of your Opponents signals.

MLB didn't let the Giants get away with it. Goodell just gave the Pats a slap on the wrist as far as I'm concerned. I mean you might as well caught BB shooting his entire team with Roids. That's how much of an unfair advantage the Pats had over the entire AFL at the very least.

Manning kicks ass just by audiblizing.

~Ceadder

I'd rather start Brady over Manning any day. Peyton is still a choke artist in the clutch.

What?

So you completely disregard VideoGate? And pardon me but didn't Brady "choke in the clutch" the last Super Bowl he was in?

I like the guy but please.

~Ceadder

Id take brady anyday as well

Brady>>>>>manning

Originally posted by BobS:
Why Joe Namath is held in such high regard is beyond me, he even has a sub .500 win percentage.

Right place, right time can go a long way. He is a real good drunk though. I was thinking the same thing.

Anyway. I voted!

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by zillabeast:

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by hondakillerzx:

Originally posted by Lott49ersFan:

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by Lott49ersFan:
Why is Brady in the top 10? He never won anything, Vinatieri always took care of that part for him...

Sorry, I was unaware that Brady had you hanging from hit nuts.

NFL records

* Highest total passing touchdowns in a regular season: 50 (2007)
* Highest total passing touchdowns in a season: 56 (2007)
* Highest total passing touchdowns in a single quarter: 5 (2009)
* Highest completion percentage in a single game: 92.9% (2007)
* Largest touchdown to interception difference: +42 (2007)
* NFL record for most consecutive wins in post season: 10 (2001, 2003, 2004)
* Tied for most completions in a Super Bowl: 32 (XXXVIII)
* Most career Super Bowl completions: 100 (XXXVI, XXXVIII, XXXIX, XLII)
* Most games with three or more touchdown passes: 12 (2007)
* Most touchdown passes in a month: 20 (October 2007)
* Only quarterback to start and win 3 Super Bowls before his 28th birthday.
* Most career overtime wins without a defeat: 7-0
* Most consecutive playoff wins by a quarterback: 10 (2001, 2003, 2004)
* Most consecutive completions to start a career without an interception: 162
* Only quarterback to have 3+ passing touchdowns in 10 straight games.

Career bests

* Highest single-game quarterback rating: 158.3 (at Miami, October 21, 2007) Perfect Rating
* Highest single-season quarterback rating: 117.2 (2007) 2nd highest all-time
* Highest single-game completion percentage: 92.9% (vs. Jacksonville, January 12, 2008) NFL Record
* Highest total passing touchdowns in a game: 6 (at Miami, October 21, 2007 and vs. Tennessee, October 18, 2009)
* Highest total passing touchdowns in a quarter: 5 (vs. Tennessee, October 18, 2009) NFL Record
* Highest total passing touchdowns in a regular season: 50 (2007) NFL Record
* Highest total passing yards in a game: 410 (vs. Kansas City, 2002)
* Highest total passing yards in a season: 4,806 (2007)
* Lowest interception total, season (minimum 2 starts): 8 (2007)
* Largest touchdown to interception difference: +42 (2007) NFL Record

but venetieri kickem da feeeeld gowels!!!! get off it, theres no ignoring how awesome brady is.

Montana, Brady, Young, Manning and Elway are my top five. just based on their styles and pure enjoyment of watching them play. Young is my favorite but id say montana and brady are both over him.

honda, love ya man but Brady doesn't beat Manning. manning has more statistical records than Brady could even hope to have. The Colts lost Defensively to the Pats and then lets not forget Videogate. You can't tell me that Bellichick only taped the opponents that one season. To me that drops Brady down the ladder a few rungs. It's hard not to win when you have first hand knowledge of your Opponents signals.

MLB didn't let the Giants get away with it. Goodell just gave the Pats a slap on the wrist as far as I'm concerned. I mean you might as well caught BB shooting his entire team with Roids. That's how much of an unfair advantage the Pats had over the entire AFL at the very least.

Manning kicks ass just by audiblizing.

~Ceadder

I'd rather start Brady over Manning any day. Peyton is still a choke artist in the clutch.

What?

So you completely disregard VideoGate? And pardon me but didn't Brady "choke in the clutch" the last Super Bowl he was in?

I like the guy but please.

~Ceadder

I am. I sure as hell don't buy into the notion that New England was/is the ONLY team in the league doing what they do. I'm no Patriots apologist, but it's true.

As for the choke debate, I'm not just talking about the two Super Bowls. Remember what everyone thought of Peyton before he won one? Brady has been a consistent winner his entire career. I don't think he is the better passer of the two, I really don't. It's the same way I feel about Dan Marino and Joe Montana. Marino was the better passer of the two, but would seriously rather have him out there late in the 4th over Montana?

Brady has that intangible instinct to pull a game out late. He didn't single-handedly blow his Super Bowl loss, either. Tracey Porter is no Deion Sanders, and Reggie Wayne ran his f**king route. Peyton threw that game away. Maybe it will make Manning a better QB when it is all said and done, but right now, going into 2010, I still feel that Brady is the better total quarterback of the two.

Originally posted by mcbaes72:
Done. LOL at some of the ranking results...Manning #2 and Marino #4.

I actually think Manning deserves to be #2. He is a winning version of Marino.

Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:

Originally posted by mcbaes72:
Done. LOL at some of the ranking results...Manning #2 and Marino #4.

I actually think Manning deserves to be #2. He is a winning version of Marino.

Yup.

It boils down to Championships. Manning has one and Marino don't.

I have Marino ranked lower because his numbers are inflated. His stats are that good because he was the primary focus of Miami's Offense. Yeah they tried to get some solid Running Backs, but I couldn't even imagine that if they had had somebody of Eric Dickerson's caliber behind the QB that they would have had more ground yardage than they did without. I mean c'mon Marino got those yards "w/o a Run Game" so the Fins Run Game couldn't have been as bad as it is made out to be. Could it have been better? Sure. But then Marino's stats would have suffered as a result. Though I'm sure he'd give away all his stats for a Super Bowl win.

~Ceadder

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Montana magic was undeniable. Those of you putting Brady and Montana in the same sentence should be euthanized. Brady has never thrown a superbowl winning touchdown. Montana has never lost a superbowl. Stop this foolishness.

Originally posted by WestCoast:
what about ben roethlisberger? kurt warner?

Kurt Warner are you s**tting me?