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What Does McCloughan departure mean for Smith
Mar 20, 2010 at 11:42 AM
- haggard
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Could be nothing or could be substantial. It's not out of the realm of possibility that drafting (or not drafting) a QB was part of the rift that caused Scott to get the boot. I don't buy this personal issue business. He left because of philosophical differences and struggle for power. A difference of opinion on drafting a QB could have been a major factor.
Mar 20, 2010 at 11:53 AM
- Dominate
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Nothing at all, The coach makes the call on who plays. Bottom line!
Mar 20, 2010 at 11:58 AM
- blunt_probe
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Nothing. This is a make it or break it year for Alex regardless of what happens to the GM.
Mar 20, 2010 at 11:58 AM
- BigBug415
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"I want WINNERS."
Mar 20, 2010 at 12:25 PM
- 190836
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Nothing, he has to deliver this year.
Mar 20, 2010 at 2:38 PM
- 9erfanAUS
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Just win.
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Mar 20, 2010 at 2:51 PM
- Kauaiguy
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Smith has to prove himself this season. Singletary WILL NOT have any problems yanking him if he starts a losing streak. I honestly believe that if it hadn't been for McCloughan, Smith would have been gone by now. But there is NOT one G.M. who will admit if they had made a bad decision and so far, McClouhan has been able to protect Alex while covering his own rear end.
With Mcloughan gone, there's no longer a security blanket for Alex Smith and the QB competition is on. Bet on it!
With Mcloughan gone, there's no longer a security blanket for Alex Smith and the QB competition is on. Bet on it!
Mar 20, 2010 at 6:21 PM
- oldninerdude
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Originally posted by WINiner:Originally posted by oldninerdude:Originally posted by WINiner:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
It doesn't mean anything. We have a former bust #1 who is worse and an overhyped, overrated nobody 3rd stringer. By default he is the starter.
Yah know SD, I usually don't have a problem in the slightest with people having a negative view, but to be honest I wish nothing more than for Smith to blow up so that your cinicisim (is that even a word?) can take a serious hit. If someone has sunbstance to back their negative feelings then so be it, but you border on delusional.
Calling Parage wormtounge is just plain rude. Dude has done nothing but work the hell outta the cap for this team, keeping us healthy since he took over, and done nothing to deserve any BS from fans.
Unless it's about one of our superstars like Gore or Willis your outlook is always EXTREME negative. I really look forward to the day that your prophecy is ished all over.
"Cynicism," I believe.
I agree with you, SD is extremely negative, usually, about most things having to do with the Niners. And his views are often unsupported and incorrect, imo.
However, they're his opinions and he's allowed to express them. I don't believe he's a troll--the opinions he expresses seem genuine, even if I usually disagree with them. They're not just thrown out there to cause a reaction by the rest of the fans on the board.
I think SD still has alot of holdover, intense frustration from the days of Nolan, and Erikson and Donahue before him. He's become so used to losing and ineptitude that its hard for him to recognize or acknowledge anything else, and he's afraid to hope for change because he's afraid of further disappointment. I find it hard to blame him for that, although I don't choose to look at the team in the same way.
I join you in looking forward to the day when his negativity is shown to be misplaced, not because it will prove him incorrect, but because it will mean that the Niners are fully back on the right track.
In the meantime, I really enjoy watching Singletary work. He has already improved the team from the disarray it was in when he took over. He's made use of the talent already aboard, instead of trying for some quick fix, big name splash to quiet fans. He may not be an Xs and Os genius, like Walsh (who compares to him), but he's a football coach who knows the game. He recognizes the team's weaknesses and addresses them, instead of trying to disguise them with complicated schemes or big name FAs or OCs.
He's not afraid to make changes to improve the team, but they're substantive changes that make it easier for the players to do what they do best, which is the fundamental point of it all, isn't it. He gets the most out of the talent already on the team--VD and Brooks come immediately to mind, but there are others as well. That's the sign of a good coach, imo.
At least the team is fun to watch again, in most games. IMHO.
Yeah like I said I don't normally have an issue with the negative. I generally encourage people being critical of the team, cause it is us afterall that allows them to do business. The problem I have is like his wormtounge comment about Parage earlier in this thread. It's comments like that that have absolutely not a shred of evidence to support that statement, and as a matter of fact their is a mountain of evidence that states the man has done nothing more than a fantastic job for us, that irritate so badly.
I could kick Mike Nolan's dog for Nolan's continued affect on our fans. I remember SD being VERY high on the team in the offseason between Nolans 1st and 2nd season. Ever since then he has been what he is today. Sad really cause the team needs as much positivity as possible right now imo.
Just as SD has a right to express his opinions, you've got a right to disagree with them. I've got no problem with that, and I agree with your take on Marathe (sp?), and your take on Nolan's residual effect on many fans and on many members of this board, who have sometimes been slow to remember that Nolan is gone.
Now McGloughan's gone too. Maybe that won't be as big a positive as Nolan's departure, but I can't help thinking that McGloughan's departure may end up as a positive. To the extent it may remove any front office, political influence over the QB position and who plays it, I think its a good thing, though I have nothing but good wishes for McGloughan in the future.
Mar 20, 2010 at 6:29 PM
- 49erRider
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Originally posted by mayo63:
He's the starter. If he wants to keep his job he needs to keep playing well. It's really not that difficult. Sing has his backing so he should be good there. I don't think the GM has anything to do with anything.
If he wants to keep his job he needs to START playing WELL. He's been average. We might have different opinions on what the word "well" means, but to me, "well" means good, not average.
Mar 20, 2010 at 6:39 PM
- Shifty
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Nada. Smith plays well, he stays. If not he's done. Simple as.
Mar 21, 2010 at 4:08 AM
- Spoonerism
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It seems like we always want to get back to Smith around here. Why would Scotty leaving mean anything for Smith? Smith's future is in his own hands. QB isn't our weakest position. We should all be lobbying to draft nothing but offensive lineman and worry less about Alex Smith.
Mar 22, 2010 at 5:57 PM
- Jersey9er
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Well maybe my question will get answered in here. Just heard that smith got the endorsement for starting Qb on "state of the franchise".
Can someone shed a little light for a brotha?
Since a few thought maybe he'd be in a state of limbo after Scotty left, wuld be nice to actually hear sumthin from somebody from the team instead of speculation.
Can someone shed a little light for a brotha?
Since a few thought maybe he'd be in a state of limbo after Scotty left, wuld be nice to actually hear sumthin from somebody from the team instead of speculation.
Mar 22, 2010 at 6:05 PM
- Wodwo
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Originally posted by Jersey9er:
Well maybe my question will get answered in here. Just heard that smith got the endorsement for starting Qb on "state of the franchise".
Can someone shed a little light for a brotha?
Since a few thought maybe he'd be in a state of limbo after Scotty left, wuld be nice to actually hear sumthin from somebody from the team instead of speculation.
Jed said that Smith is the starting QB.
Mar 22, 2010 at 6:06 PM
- northstar
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Jed York called him "their guy" or "their man" And pretty much said he is going to start for sure this year.
Mar 22, 2010 at 10:23 PM
- sincalfaithful
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Originally posted by BigBug415:
"I want WINNERS."
So does everybody else