Paraag Marathe Thread

Originally posted by NinerGM:
True, but the woes of the 49ers don't have much to do with Paraag. Let's not forget, Baalke's decisions have been beyond questionable. I'm no fan of Paraag but the decision to hope and rely on Ian Williams to suddenly get healthy and start as a NT is a Baalke decision that spans years. Glazer says directly that the choice NOT to take Prescott was Baalke's and that was to him directly from Kelly. As incredulous as Anthony Davis has been, he didn't single out Paraag in his tweets. The same can be said for Gase during the interview process. He's not mad at "the 49ers", Gase is PO'ed at someone in particular.

Baalke is gone, we'll see what and how much changes in the coming years. If we continue getting leaks and whispers coming out about the head coach and the GM, if there are continued reports about conflict between people in the organization, the only place left to point the finger is those at the very top.

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Met him at Kezar, he's a nice guy but I don't think he's involved in anything to do with personnel or coaching.

Way off on this one.

True, but the woes of the 49ers don't have much to do with Paraag. Let's not forget, Baalke's decisions have been beyond questionable. I'm no fan of Paraag but the decision to hope and rely on Ian Williams to suddenly get healthy and start as a NT is a Baalke decision that spans years. Glazer says directly that the choice NOT to take Prescott was Baalke's and that was to him directly from Kelly. As incredulous as Anthony Davis has been, he didn't single out Paraag in his tweets. The same can be said for Gase during the interview process. He's not mad at "the 49ers", Gase is PO'ed at someone in particular.

I think we may have been trolled a bit with the Glazer reports re: potential Jed/Paraag smear campaign.

Lots more coming out now.

Chip Kelly says he has a great relationship with Trent Baalke

- See more at: http://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/101673-chip-kelly-says-great-relationship-trent-baalke/#sthash.K7drxpsy.dpuf

This was 3 weeks ago. And now this...

http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/chip-kelly-disputes-notion-he-and-trent-baalke-did-not-get-along

Here are some other examples:

Look at this crap now...gotta question all these Glazer reports:

While friends reached out to Kelly and invited him to spend some time with their organizations as he regrouped (including the New England Patriots' Bill Belichick), York was the only one who immediately expressed interest in snapping up Kelly. But it quickly became obvious to those close to Kelly that Baalke wasn't in the coach's corner. "He (Chip) thought he had Jed [York] behind him," said one NFL personnel source close to Kelly. "And [assistant general manager] Tom Gamble was there, so he had a guy upstairs in his corner.

--- So who wanted/hired Kelly? Did we have it backwards? Trent wanted Tomsula so this time around, Jed chose the HC and he wanted Kelly? If Trent wanted Kelly, Trent would me more than amicable with Kelly, going down together, not compartmentalizing relationships; Kelly didn't even know Trent was fired. It sounds like Jed picked Kelly (Trent didn't want) and expected everyone to play nicely when it was a triangle relationship to begin with: York+Gamble+Kelly and Baalke

According to one 49ers source, Kelly seemed very careful to avoid problems with Baalke from the moment he stepped into the building. So much so that the 49ers source said Kelly basically took a backseat to Baalke on draft weekend, operating with a low-key demeanor that left some in the war room thinking he was making a point of not inserting himself into some of the decisions.

--- But Kelly wanted Dak? But not enough to say anything? Gotta call B.S. on that rumor then.

There were other gripes, too. There was an unspoken curiosity about Marathe's role in the franchise and why he was sitting in meetings that encompassed football evaluation.

--- And here is why I'm still very much interested in this topic today b/c at the end of the day, Paraag and Jed are still here CREATING these toxic environments/cultures and obviously, smearing it after each firing to absolve blame from themselves. More importantly, any one of these prospective GM's and HC's could read this article and SEE what Kelly and Harbaugh both went through here and steer clear. Stay tuned...

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/even-with-changed-behavior-this-is-why-chip-kelly-never-had-a-shot-with-49ers-232607163.html


There is a very obvious pattern here and with nobody else left in the building but two 30-somethings playing CEO & EVP of Football Operations, I think it's easy to see where the REAL CULTURE comes from.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by susweel:
ian rapaport on knbr said Paraag is a well respected executive around the league and the league copies many of the creative contracts he does.

He can do all the contracts he wants but when he is sitting in on player meetings and influencing free agent signings and the draft, areas where he has absolutely zero f**king business being involved in, that is a problem.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Baalke is gone, we'll see what and how much changes in the coming years. If we continue getting leaks and whispers coming out about the head coach and the GM, if there are continued reports about conflict between people in the organization, the only place left to point the finger is those at the very top.

This

Now Rapoport trying his spin. Yet, the only thing he can focus on is his ground breaking contracts that many see as revolutionary. But this is something we all knew. He's the best in the biz that way (and well respected across the NFL this way).

He doesn't touch on his ACTUAL role as an EVP of Football Operations which was the original question.

http://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/102370-rapoport-baffled-national-local-view-paraag-marathe-differ/

Originally posted by NCommand:
I think we may have been trolled a bit with the Glazer reports re: potential Jed/Paraag smear campaign.

Lots more coming out now.

Chip Kelly says he has a great relationship with Trent Baalke

- See more at: http://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/101673-chip-kelly-says-great-relationship-trent-baalke/#sthash.K7drxpsy.dpuf

This was 3 weeks ago. And now this...

http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/chip-kelly-disputes-notion-he-and-trent-baalke-did-not-get-along

Here are some other examples:

Look at this crap now...gotta question all these Glazer reports:

While friends reached out to Kelly and invited him to spend some time with their organizations as he regrouped (including the New England Patriots' Bill Belichick), York was the only one who immediately expressed interest in snapping up Kelly. But it quickly became obvious to those close to Kelly that Baalke wasn't in the coach's corner. "He (Chip) thought he had Jed [York] behind him," said one NFL personnel source close to Kelly. "And [assistant general manager] Tom Gamble was there, so he had a guy upstairs in his corner.

--- So who wanted/hired Kelly? Did we have it backwards? Trent wanted Tomsula so this time around, Jed chose the HC and he wanted Kelly? If Trent wanted Kelly, Trent would me more than amicable with Kelly, going down together, not compartmentalizing relationships; Kelly didn't even know Trent was fired. It sounds like Jed picked Kelly (Trent didn't want) and expected everyone to play nicely when it was a triangle relationship to begin with: York Gamble Kelly and Baalke

According to one 49ers source, Kelly seemed very careful to avoid problems with Baalke from the moment he stepped into the building. So much so that the 49ers source said Kelly basically took a backseat to Baalke on draft weekend, operating with a low-key demeanor that left some in the war room thinking he was making a point of not inserting himself into some of the decisions.

--- But Kelly wanted Dak? But not enough to say anything? Gotta call B.S. on that rumor then.

There were other gripes, too. There was an unspoken curiosity about Marathe's role in the franchise and why he was sitting in meetings that encompassed football evaluation.

--- And here is why I'm still very much interested in this topic today b/c at the end of the day, Paraag and Jed are still here CREATING these toxic environments/cultures and obviously, smearing it after each firing to absolve blame from themselves. More importantly, any one of these prospective GM's and HC's could read this article and SEE what Kelly and Harbaugh both went through here and steer clear. Stay tuned...

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/even-with-changed-behavior-this-is-why-chip-kelly-never-had-a-shot-with-49ers-232607163.html


There is a very obvious pattern here and with nobody else left in the building but two 30-somethings playing CEO & EVP of Football Operations, I think it's easy to see where the REAL CULTURE comes from.

I don't really understand all the hate for this guy, when all he does is contracts. He let Kaepernick void his contract which is brilliant, otherwise we would have been stuck with this bum for even longer.

There is no proof that he does leaks, or has any meddling with the coaching staff. Only unsubstantiated rumors and fan lashing because they probably want a scapegoat after losing so many games.

Anyone want to prove me wrong with real proof? And no, I'm not a corporate shill working for the 49ers front office. Just legitimately curious.

Originally posted by Ensatsu:
I don't really understand all the hate for this guy, when all he does is contracts. He let Kaepernick void his contract which is brilliant, otherwise we would have been stuck with this bum for even longer.

There is no proof that he does leaks, or has any meddling with the coaching staff. Only unsubstantiated rumors and fan lashing because they probably want a scapegoat after losing so many games.

Anyone want to prove me wrong with real proof? And no, I'm not a corporate shill working for the 49ers front office. Just legitimately curious.

Question:

Given the business of reporting via a source just what kind of proof would suffice for you?

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Question:

Given the business of reporting via a source just what kind of proof would suffice for you?

How do you know hes the one who is doing the leaks instead of just some other random guy? This is what I always assume with leaks.

And leaks happen with every other front office as well, besides the ones that are winning obviously. Because they don't exactly fire coaches and GMs.

Folks critical of Marathe because he's not a football guy.

Folks critical of Marathe for sitting in on football meetings.

Maybe he is constantly hungry for exposure to as much as he can absorb about football.

Like it's his job, or something?

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Now Rapoport trying his spin. Yet, the only thing he can focus on is his ground breaking contracts that many see as revolutionary. But this is something we all knew. He's the best in the biz that way (and well respected across the NFL this way).

He doesn't touch on his ACTUAL role as an EVP of Football Operations which was the original question.

http://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/102370-rapoport-baffled-national-local-view-paraag-marathe-differ/

I don't know NC... the league is a small place and if there were huge concerns about that wouldn't we hear them? Isn't it at all a question that it seems the only one who hears them comes from Kawakami? I'm just asking. I guess for me, it's about talent on the field and the person who controls the roster; at the end of the day, the GM makes the decisions.

I'm just saying, Baalke can't escape responsibility for this roster.

Absolutely! This isn't to absolve Baalke of blame. He certainly did enough to warrant a firing on several levels. The point of these points is the timing of this smear campaign, Kelly refuting it himself and the clear patterns we're seeing with Jed/Paraag at the helm over YEARS. Since they are the only two left in the house, I'd say it's pretty clear where the "culture" is really coming from. As a fan, it scares the hell out of me now and going forward. Jed flat out lied about Paraag's role. This man has been involved in every interview process, is in on talent evaluations, is in the booth, etc. and has never once had to answer a direct media question about his REAL role within this team and his qualifications for being an EVP of Football Operations. Given that that structure is not going to change anytime soon and with every day going by, more and more questions arise from he and Jed leading the next GM/HC search, I'm just cautioning fans to be leery of these things...be cautiously optimistic...but be leery. There is a very obvious pattern here and they tactics being used are certainly inline with a couple 30-somethings given full power and control over a multi-million dollar franchise.

Originally posted by Ensatsu:
How do you know hes the one who is doing the leaks instead of just some other random guy? This is what I always assume with leaks.

And leaks happen with every other front office as well, besides the ones that are winning obviously. Because they don't exactly fire coaches and GMs.

How often do you see things being leaked out of the front offices of organizations like Green Bay, Pittsburgh, New England...etc?

Paraag is strictly a numbers guy. And it doesn't sit right with me that this guy and Jed are making the "football" decisions. These two need to put egos aside and hire someone who is qualified as president of football operations. This is the only way to turning this turd around.

Originally posted by Ensatsu:
I don't really understand all the hate for this guy, when all he does is contracts. He let Kaepernick void his contract which is brilliant, otherwise we would have been stuck with this bum for even longer.

There is no proof that he does leaks, or has any meddling with the coaching staff. Only unsubstantiated rumors and fan lashing because they probably want a scapegoat after losing so many games.

Anyone want to prove me wrong with real proof? And no, I'm not a corporate shill working for the 49ers front office. Just legitimately curious.

B/c that is NOT all he does. Read through this thread closely.

Originally posted by 5Jan2003:
Folks critical of Marathe because he's not a football guy.

Folks critical of Marathe for sitting in on football meetings.

Maybe he is constantly hungry for exposure to as much as he can absorb about football.

Like it's his job, or something?

Is it his job to be up in the coaches booth during football games, to be shooting down trade ideas by Bill Walsh and John McVay(who were those guys anyways), to be bugging Harbaugh enough to get kicked out of his office, to be setting the criteria for what coaches the organization should be hiring, due to his incredible depth of knowledge and understanding about football?


The guy has spent a lot of his career sticking his nose into areas that he has no business sticking his nose into. If he's a salary cap guy and a negotiator, that should be his job and his main focus, he should be answering to the GM, not the other way around.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

How do you know hes the one who is doing the leaks instead of just some other random guy? This is what I always assume with leaks.

And leaks happen with every other front office as well, besides the ones that are winning obviously. Because they don't exactly fire coaches and GMs.

How often do you see things being leaked out of the front offices of organizations like Green Bay, Pittsburgh, New England...etc?

His incorrect answer is right after what u bolded. Hes basically making the assumption that leaks are only about hc/gm firings.