Evaluating Alex Smith the next two games....

Originally posted by GolittaCamper:

Originally posted by backontop:

Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
The more he plays the more we know, these next games are basically preseason, and don't mean crap to any one not even the players, I expect to see a lot of half assed phoned in performances! As for Alex I hope he doesn't do so well as to prevent this team from drafting, and signing a couple of NFL caliber QBs, we sure could use a real QB...Hill sucks ass too!

We have two 1st round picks and a ass load of cap room, if Scotty M does not get us a real QB, I call dibs on kicking his ass!

can you explain the logic behind this because it boggles my mind. It seems as though you are hoping Smith fails just because you don't want him as the starter. If Smith continues to improve and goes into an offseason taking all snaps as the starter in the same offense with continuity, he could prove to be the guy we drafted him to be.

Yep, I think we have seen enough of Alex, he looks to me to be a great Back-up QB! now that we have settled that lets go get ourselves a REAL starting QB!!!!

well I guess it is a good thing you don't make any decisions. Smith WILL BE THE STARTING QB NEXT YEAR

Originally posted by backontop:

Originally posted by GolittaCamper:

Originally posted by backontop:

Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
The more he plays the more we know, these next games are basically preseason, and don't mean crap to any one not even the players, I expect to see a lot of half assed phoned in performances! As for Alex I hope he doesn't do so well as to prevent this team from drafting, and signing a couple of NFL caliber QBs, we sure could use a real QB...Hill sucks ass too!

We have two 1st round picks and a ass load of cap room, if Scotty M does not get us a real QB, I call dibs on kicking his ass!

can you explain the logic behind this because it boggles my mind. It seems as though you are hoping Smith fails just because you don't want him as the starter. If Smith continues to improve and goes into an offseason taking all snaps as the starter in the same offense with continuity, he could prove to be the guy we drafted him to be.

Yep, I think we have seen enough of Alex, he looks to me to be a great Back-up QB! now that we have settled that lets go get ourselves a REAL starting QB!!!!

well I guess it is a good thing you don't make any decisions. Smith WILL BE THE STARTING QB NEXT YEAR

Obviously Jed York.

Originally posted by WheresWaldo:

Originally posted by backontop:

Originally posted by GolittaCamper:

Originally posted by backontop:

Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
The more he plays the more we know, these next games are basically preseason, and don't mean crap to any one not even the players, I expect to see a lot of half assed phoned in performances! As for Alex I hope he doesn't do so well as to prevent this team from drafting, and signing a couple of NFL caliber QBs, we sure could use a real QB...Hill sucks ass too!

We have two 1st round picks and a ass load of cap room, if Scotty M does not get us a real QB, I call dibs on kicking his ass!

can you explain the logic behind this because it boggles my mind. It seems as though you are hoping Smith fails just because you don't want him as the starter. If Smith continues to improve and goes into an offseason taking all snaps as the starter in the same offense with continuity, he could prove to be the guy we drafted him to be.

Yep, I think we have seen enough of Alex, he looks to me to be a great Back-up QB! now that we have settled that lets go get ourselves a REAL starting QB!!!!

well I guess it is a good thing you don't make any decisions. Smith WILL BE THE STARTING QB NEXT YEAR

Obviously Jed York.

did you just call me a York You take that back

Originally posted by backontop:

Originally posted by GolittaCamper:

Originally posted by backontop:

Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
The more he plays the more we know, these next games are basically preseason, and don't mean crap to any one not even the players, I expect to see a lot of half assed phoned in performances! As for Alex I hope he doesn't do so well as to prevent this team from drafting, and signing a couple of NFL caliber QBs, we sure could use a real QB...Hill sucks ass too!

We have two 1st round picks and a ass load of cap room, if Scotty M does not get us a real QB, I call dibs on kicking his ass!

can you explain the logic behind this because it boggles my mind. It seems as though you are hoping Smith fails just because you don't want him as the starter. If Smith continues to improve and goes into an offseason taking all snaps as the starter in the same offense with continuity, he could prove to be the guy we drafted him to be.

Yep, I think we have seen enough of Alex, he looks to me to be a great Back-up QB! now that we have settled that lets go get ourselves a REAL starting QB!!!!

well I guess it is a good thing you don't make any decisions. Smith WILL BE THE STARTING QB NEXT YEAR

Much to my dismay you are right! The best outcome that I see in you scenario is
this

Alex, Davis,1st round draft choice
I would like to see
Farve, Smith, Davis
or
1st round pick, Alex, Davis (that would mean Scotty choose well)

I would also take Top Tier QB from a trade, Alex, Davis

But I will puke if I see
Alex, Hill DAvis
or any plan with Hill still on the team!

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
It's Alex for the next 2 games. And Alex for 2010 as well most likely. There are no rookie QB's who are going to step in and be better. The available FA class is very likey weak. Nate Davis is nowhere near being ready to lead an NFL team. And Shaun Hill has proven arm strength limitations.

So it's Alex for 2 and 2010 for the season also.

Alex has played only 8 full games. If you project out what he has now to 16 games here is what you have (1,898 yards, 16 TD's).

2010 Projection.

3,796 yards.

32 TD's.

There are lots of problems on this team. But Alex can play. And it's the best he has ever played by far and he is more ready than anybody else we will have on the roster for 2010.

and 22 ints with a 6-10 record! WOW sign me up!

Originally posted by GolittaCamper:

Originally posted by backontop:

Originally posted by GolittaCamper:

Originally posted by backontop:

Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
The more he plays the more we know, these next games are basically preseason, and don't mean crap to any one not even the players, I expect to see a lot of half assed phoned in performances! As for Alex I hope he doesn't do so well as to prevent this team from drafting, and signing a couple of NFL caliber QBs, we sure could use a real QB...Hill sucks ass too!

We have two 1st round picks and a ass load of cap room, if Scotty M does not get us a real QB, I call dibs on kicking his ass!

can you explain the logic behind this because it boggles my mind. It seems as though you are hoping Smith fails just because you don't want him as the starter. If Smith continues to improve and goes into an offseason taking all snaps as the starter in the same offense with continuity, he could prove to be the guy we drafted him to be.

Yep, I think we have seen enough of Alex, he looks to me to be a great Back-up QB! now that we have settled that lets go get ourselves a REAL starting QB!!!!

well I guess it is a good thing you don't make any decisions. Smith WILL BE THE STARTING QB NEXT YEAR

Much to my dismay you are right! The best outcome that I see in you scenario is
this

Alex, Davis,1st round draft choice
I would like to see
Farve, Smith, Davis
or
1st round pick, Alex, Davis (that would mean Scotty choose well)

I would also take Top Tier QB from a trade, Alex, Davis

But I will puke if I see
Alex, Hill DAvis
or any plan with Hill still on the team!

you want Favre ok conversation over. Your credibility has been shot. moving on now.

Originally posted by GolittaCamper:

Much to my dismay you are right! The best outcome that I see in you scenario is
this

Alex, Davis,1st round draft choice
I would like to see
Farve, Smith, Davis
or
1st round pick, Alex, Davis (that would mean Scotty choose well)

I would also take Top Tier QB from a trade, Alex, Davis

But I will puke if I see
Alex, Hill DAvis
or any plan with Hill still on the team!

Get ready to puke. Shaun Hill will be on the team unless something happens to him. Why would they get rid of him? I'll puke if he has to play a lot of games again, but I don't feel horrible knowing he's available if needed because of an injury.

These last 2 games really mean squat if Alex wins, since he's expected to. I'd like to see him put complete games together for a change. However, if he has another bad game or 2, I think it's cause for concern, esp against these 2 particular teams, and if it's obvious he's sucking big time, then give Davis some playing time, for gosh sakes!
Another thing. Everyone makes and made such a big deal about Hill's arm strength, but I'd be interested to see the stats on their completions at various ranges. I'd wager Alex hasn't a much higher, if at all, completion percentage with medium and long-range passes, arm strength notwithstanding. Anotherwords, did he really make a difference in the long game? I sure don't recall many long completions, do you?

Originally posted by 4evrfan:
Another thing. Everyone makes and made such a big deal about Hill's arm strength, but I'd be interested to see the stats on their completions at various ranges. I'd wager Alex hasn't a much higher, if at all, completion percentage with medium and long-range passes, arm strength notwithstanding. Anotherwords, did he really make a difference in the long game? I sure don't recall many long completions, do you?

I remember quite a few.

P.S. Arm strength is not all about throwing the ball super deep. It is important from all ranges.

Originally posted by backontop:

Originally posted by GolittaCamper:

Originally posted by backontop:

Originally posted by GolittaCamper:

Originally posted by backontop:

Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
The more he plays the more we know, these next games are basically preseason, and don't mean crap to any one not even the players, I expect to see a lot of half assed phoned in performances! As for Alex I hope he doesn't do so well as to prevent this team from drafting, and signing a couple of NFL caliber QBs, we sure could use a real QB...Hill sucks ass too!

We have two 1st round picks and a ass load of cap room, if Scotty M does not get us a real QB, I call dibs on kicking his ass!

can you explain the logic behind this because it boggles my mind. It seems as though you are hoping Smith fails just because you don't want him as the starter. If Smith continues to improve and goes into an offseason taking all snaps as the starter in the same offense with continuity, he could prove to be the guy we drafted him to be.

Yep, I think we have seen enough of Alex, he looks to me to be a great Back-up QB! now that we have settled that lets go get ourselves a REAL starting QB!!!!

well I guess it is a good thing you don't make any decisions. Smith WILL BE THE STARTING QB NEXT YEAR

Much to my dismay you are right! The best outcome that I see in you scenario is
this

Alex, Davis,1st round draft choice
I would like to see
Farve, Smith, Davis
or
1st round pick, Alex, Davis (that would mean Scotty choose well)

I would also take Top Tier QB from a trade, Alex, Davis

But I will puke if I see
Alex, Hill DAvis
or any plan with Hill still on the team!

you want Favre ok conversation over. Your credibility has been shot. moving on now.

Really, is that old fart Farve not on his way to the play-offs? Hmmm I seem to remember him having a pretty good season, he seemed to build instant report with his WRs, and Backs, and hit the ground running, and I am sure that there is NOTHING the great Alex smith could lern fron him, it would be awful to have him start a season while Smith continues to learn, i bet Alex would actually be teaching Farve a few things huh Alex is the greatest QB ever to play the game after all! I mean wow if given the choice of a time machine and Joe Montana or Alex Smith and Shaun Hill I would take Smith and Hill every day! Is Farve the Farve of 92? no Is Farve as good as Montana ever was NO Does Farve have one more season in him? go ask Blanda and Moon what they think about 40+ year old QBs!

Originally posted by GolittaCamper:

Originally posted by backontop:

Originally posted by GolittaCamper:

Originally posted by backontop:

Originally posted by GolittaCamper:

Originally posted by backontop:

Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
The more he plays the more we know, these next games are basically preseason, and don't mean crap to any one not even the players, I expect to see a lot of half assed phoned in performances! As for Alex I hope he doesn't do so well as to prevent this team from drafting, and signing a couple of NFL caliber QBs, we sure could use a real QB...Hill sucks ass too!

We have two 1st round picks and a ass load of cap room, if Scotty M does not get us a real QB, I call dibs on kicking his ass!

can you explain the logic behind this because it boggles my mind. It seems as though you are hoping Smith fails just because you don't want him as the starter. If Smith continues to improve and goes into an offseason taking all snaps as the starter in the same offense with continuity, he could prove to be the guy we drafted him to be.

Yep, I think we have seen enough of Alex, he looks to me to be a great Back-up QB! now that we have settled that lets go get ourselves a REAL starting QB!!!!

well I guess it is a good thing you don't make any decisions. Smith WILL BE THE STARTING QB NEXT YEAR

Much to my dismay you are right! The best outcome that I see in you scenario is
this

Alex, Davis,1st round draft choice
I would like to see
Farve, Smith, Davis
or
1st round pick, Alex, Davis (that would mean Scotty choose well)

I would also take Top Tier QB from a trade, Alex, Davis

But I will puke if I see
Alex, Hill DAvis
or any plan with Hill still on the team!

you want Favre ok conversation over. Your credibility has been shot. moving on now.

Really, is that old fart Farve not on his way to the play-offs? Hmmm I seem to remember him having a pretty good season, he seemed to build instant report with his WRs, and Backs, and hit the ground running, and I am sure that there is NOTHING the great Alex smith could lern fron him, it would be awful to have him start a season while Smith continues to learn, i bet Alex would actually be teaching Farve a few things huh Alex is the greatest QB ever to play the game after all! I mean wow if given the choice of a time machine and Joe Montana or Alex Smith and Shaun Hill I would take Smith and Hill every day! Is Farve the Farve of 92? no Is Farve as good as Montana ever was NO Does Farve have one more season in him? go ask Blanda and Moon what they think about 40+ year old QBs!

Favre is on a TEAM that is going to the playoffs. Mostly carried by a strong defense and AP. Favre has had to do very little in games for the team to win. And when he is forced to make the plays for the team to win have they done it? Lets see, against AZ the run game was taken out and the game depended on Favre- Loss. Against Carolina the run game again was taken away and the game put on Favre's shoulders-loss. Thank you

U got the next 2 games, the entire off season and atleast the start of next season to evaluate Smith.

Originally posted by LambdaChi49:

Originally posted by excelsior:
Dear "Patrick":

According to Singeltary, the purpose of playing Alex the next two games is not to evaluate him, but rather to build on his game experience. He did not play for two years, then spent the beginning of the year on the bench. He needs reps in game environments.

I know a fellow who is learning to fly a helicopter. I asked him the other day how it was going. He told me that after 100 hours of flying solo, he finds himelf relying less on his instruments and more on his instincts. It is becoming more second nature to him, which is important with a helicopter because so many adjustments and reactions have to occur simulateously.

Alex is in the process of learning a new offense, experiencing his receivers' habits and reactions, and learning how his OL is functioning. He is still doing alot of thinking. He needs the reps so that what he does is more instinctual.

Sing wants 2010 to be a more succeesful year. Giving Alex game experience is part of ensuring that 2010 is more successful.

BUT HE IZ BUSTORZ....!....?

TOO...MUCH....LOGIK....

DOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!

41 games played. That is all.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
It's Alex for the next 2 games. And Alex for 2010 as well most likely. There are no rookie QB's who are going to step in and be better. The available FA class is very likey weak. Nate Davis is nowhere near being ready to lead an NFL team. And Shaun Hill has proven arm strength limitations.

So it's Alex for 2 and 2010 for the season also.

Alex has played only 8 full games. If you project out what he has now to 16 games here is what you have (1,898 yards, 16 TD's).

2010 Projection.

3,796 yards.

32 TD's.

There are lots of problems on this team. But Alex can play. And it's the best he has ever played by far and he is more ready than anybody else we will have on the roster for 2010.

If you are going to project based on this years totals then lets project his win/loss for next year?

I thought the offensive line always gets the blame if the team or A. Smith falter? Wasn't this already decided in a sweeping referendum held at city hall?