young and inexperienced or poorly coached and sloppy?

It didn't work because we had no Crabtree, Gore was hurt and Singletary finnaly realized that he's not in the NFC North anymore and the whole 3 yards and a cloud of dust isn't going to work against the pass happy NFL. Hill is still the only QB with a winning record that has thrown for more TDs then INTs on this team. Even with the crap players around him the past 3 years.

Originally posted by 4JusticeNow:
It didn't work because we had no Crabtree, Gore was hurt and Singletary finnaly realized that he's not in the NFC North anymore and the whole 3 yards and a cloud of dust isn't going to work against the pass happy NFL. Hill is still the only QB with a winning record that has thrown for more TDs then INTs on this team. Even with the crap players around him the past 3 years.

Dude did you not see 3/4 of his last games? He was horrible. Dude whether Smith isn't the answer or not it's not Hill. Teams adjusted to his short passes and took it all away and he couldn't make them pay down the field.

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You also have to wonder whether Raye is putting him in the best position to win.

One of the ways to defeat a blitzing defense is with the screen pass, something the 49ers haven't done well this season and something they didn't break out Sunday until the second half.

Another antidote is rolling the quarterback out of the pocket away from pressure. Norv Turner did that with Smith with good results when he was the offensive coordinator in 2006, but it's something that Raye hasn't done much this season.

Asked to compare the Eagles' defense to other schemes he's faced, Smith used the words "unique" and "unconventional."

"They bring a lot of different pressure looks," he said. "You have to be ready for all of it and do some different things behind it. Traditional methods of handling pressure don't always work."

Raye and the 49ers didn't counter with anything unconventional. And in the end, it left them outfoxed.

http://www.sacbee.com/sf49ers/story/2411125.html#mi_rss=49ers

Originally posted by LambdaChi49:

Quote:
You also have to wonder whether Raye is putting him in the best position to win.

One of the ways to defeat a blitzing defense is with the screen pass, something the 49ers haven't done well this season and something they didn't break out Sunday until the second half.

Another antidote is rolling the quarterback out of the pocket away from pressure. Norv Turner did that with Smith with good results when he was the offensive coordinator in 2006, but it's something that Raye hasn't done much this season.

Asked to compare the Eagles' defense to other schemes he's faced, Smith used the words "unique" and "unconventional."

"They bring a lot of different pressure looks," he said. "You have to be ready for all of it and do some different things behind it. Traditional methods of handling pressure don't always work."

Raye and the 49ers didn't counter with anything unconventional. And in the end, it left them outfoxed.

http://www.sacbee.com/sf49ers/story/2411125.html#mi_rss=49ers

Problem with that theory is that this team can't execute a screen play. I think they've been able to do two, maybe three screen plays effectively this season. (and I'm not exaggerating).

They always get blown up in the backfield for major losses.

Originally posted by smileyman:

Originally posted by LambdaChi49:

Quote:
You also have to wonder whether Raye is putting him in the best position to win.

One of the ways to defeat a blitzing defense is with the screen pass, something the 49ers haven't done well this season and something they didn't break out Sunday until the second half.

Another antidote is rolling the quarterback out of the pocket away from pressure. Norv Turner did that with Smith with good results when he was the offensive coordinator in 2006, but it's something that Raye hasn't done much this season.

Asked to compare the Eagles' defense to other schemes he's faced, Smith used the words "unique" and "unconventional."

"They bring a lot of different pressure looks," he said. "You have to be ready for all of it and do some different things behind it. Traditional methods of handling pressure don't always work."

Raye and the 49ers didn't counter with anything unconventional. And in the end, it left them outfoxed.

http://www.sacbee.com/sf49ers/story/2411125.html#mi_rss=49ers

Problem with that theory is that this team can't execute a screen play. I think they've been able to do two, maybe three screen plays effectively this season. (and I'm not exaggerating).

They always get blown up in the backfield for major losses.

I agree but practice makes perfect. I really wonder what the hell we do during practice.

Originally posted by LambdaChi49:

Originally posted by smileyman:

Originally posted by LambdaChi49:

Quote:
You also have to wonder whether Raye is putting him in the best position to win.

One of the ways to defeat a blitzing defense is with the screen pass, something the 49ers haven't done well this season and something they didn't break out Sunday until the second half.

Another antidote is rolling the quarterback out of the pocket away from pressure. Norv Turner did that with Smith with good results when he was the offensive coordinator in 2006, but it's something that Raye hasn't done much this season.

Asked to compare the Eagles' defense to other schemes he's faced, Smith used the words "unique" and "unconventional."

"They bring a lot of different pressure looks," he said. "You have to be ready for all of it and do some different things behind it. Traditional methods of handling pressure don't always work."

Raye and the 49ers didn't counter with anything unconventional. And in the end, it left them outfoxed.

http://www.sacbee.com/sf49ers/story/2411125.html#mi_rss=49ers

Problem with that theory is that this team can't execute a screen play. I think they've been able to do two, maybe three screen plays effectively this season. (and I'm not exaggerating).

They always get blown up in the backfield for major losses.

I agree but practice makes perfect. I really wonder what the hell we do during practice.

Forget the screens! How bout a freaking quick slant every once in a while. Hhe five yard middle was open all day.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by LambdaChi49:

Originally posted by smileyman:

Originally posted by LambdaChi49:

Quote:
You also have to wonder whether Raye is putting him in the best position to win.

One of the ways to defeat a blitzing defense is with the screen pass, something the 49ers haven't done well this season and something they didn't break out Sunday until the second half.

Another antidote is rolling the quarterback out of the pocket away from pressure. Norv Turner did that with Smith with good results when he was the offensive coordinator in 2006, but it's something that Raye hasn't done much this season.

Asked to compare the Eagles' defense to other schemes he's faced, Smith used the words "unique" and "unconventional."

"They bring a lot of different pressure looks," he said. "You have to be ready for all of it and do some different things behind it. Traditional methods of handling pressure don't always work."

Raye and the 49ers didn't counter with anything unconventional. And in the end, it left them outfoxed.

http://www.sacbee.com/sf49ers/story/2411125.html#mi_rss=49ers

Problem with that theory is that this team can't execute a screen play. I think they've been able to do two, maybe three screen plays effectively this season. (and I'm not exaggerating).

They always get blown up in the backfield for major losses.

I agree but practice makes perfect. I really wonder what the hell we do during practice.

Forget the screens! How bout a freaking quick slant every once in a while. Hhe five yard middle was open all day.

Not once did any receiver run 3 yards and turn around and give Alex a quick outlet in the voided space when the Eagles blitzed.

I posted this last night after the game:

This team never seems to be prepared when the game starts. It's always at the half that they make adjustments and suddenly get into the game.

The old addage of "practices makes perfect", that falls on the coachs.

Remember when Nolan was hired it was his first Head Coaching job [a real head scratcher for the most part] and he assembled the coaching staff with all of the castoffs and un-wanteds that he could manage to get.

almost every loss can be traced to the coachs not being prepard.

Originally posted by posterX:

Originally posted by sachie23:
I'm really not sure sometimes. I want to say this team needs to go through these growing pains but they inconsistency is infuriating. I know the offense has turned the ball over but the defense is Jekyl and and Hyde.

Poorly coached and sloppy. Sing and his crew are absolutely clueless. This is a bad joke.

Originally posted by calinig4life:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Today, we had..

1) A Delanie Walker fumble inside the redzone.
2) Too many penalties.
3) Too much pressure and too many sacks allowed.
4) Bad interceptions at bad times.
5) Continued tentative Punt Return game.

This team has been sloppy across the board.

Alex Smith was bad today, but his performance is NOT an excuse for the rest of the team to play horrific. I'm sorry but Alex isn't out there false-starting, getting illegal contact penalties, letting Desean Jackson fly by him, letting Celek loose for a game-sealing first down, missing blocks, letting defenders come free to sack him, letting the ball drop on a punt return and roll to our 1.

We need upgrades everywhere.

but you know what BETTER qb play would have had those mistakes over looked. did you forget bout those 3 picks. if he would not have under thrown his first pick, he had davis open for a would be td. then they get the ball back & he overthrows a open d. walk. better qb play gets a win today. hell the raiders qb found away to get it done but smith couldn't wtf is that. face it in big games a. smith SUCKS!!! period.

Best part is Davis would have droped the TD ha

Originally posted by smileyman:

Originally posted by trogdor:

It is obvious whenever they play a playoff caliber team that the Niners are nowhere near the point of being able to hang with quality teams. Even if they made it to the playoffs next year by virtue of being in a weak division, they would be one and done, and it would probably be a blowout.

We hung with Minnesota (though that's not looking so great right now).
We hung with the Colts
We beat the Cardinals twice
We beat up on the Jaguars

All of those teams are playoff calibre right now and we hung with them all. Last year we would've been blown out.

The only reason we hung with the Vikes and Colts is because our defense had a great gameplan. The offense has never been able to put up the points it needs to, and until we get an offense that can score when the game is on the line, we are going to be watching a mediocre, 8-9 win team.

We just couldn't match up with the Jackson. Imagine if they also had Maclin playing. Our secondary would have been fried! We couldn't generate a pass rush and couldn't match up on the outside with their receivers. Offensively, they took away our outside guys and gave us the underneath stuff. That is what all teams are doing now. Our OL couldn't keep the pass rushers out. It looks like they just didn't know where the blitzes were coming from.

I feel sorry for Jed...he is in so far over his head, he doesn't have a clue. Great idea and terrific timing to say scot and bigmike are his men for next yr.

I feel sorry for bigMike, one of my all time favorites as a HOF player. He brot intensity to the game like very few others. Unfortunately, he is going to be remembered for how poor a HC he was, and understandably so. How on earth did scot and jedi jed ever think the GOAT LB, a HOFer and motivational speaker, would ever succeed at HC when he NEVER put his time in at coaching different positions, and NEVER was either OC(hah!) or DC. He just leapfrogged all those other learning positions, and was GIVEN the HC, with no credentials and no experience. In short, he was set up to fail...and he has.

I do not feel sorry for scot. He has had 5 yrs and no, not one, winning season, and this yr we are eliminated before we were last yr. He has hired a HC who was not worthy, he has allowed an OL coach to stay on when he was an obvious bust, and he has ignored the dictum: "Lines first". Scot has steadfastly adhered to drafting BPA, and you see what that has gotten us. Sure he drafted Gore, Staley, P-52...but that is not much to brag about being given 5 yrs. Right now, he is our biggest liability.

Foerster? It isn't his fault that he was retained by scot. He has produced one of the worst OLs in the NFL. Should have been gone long ago...but scot SHOULD have gotten a bona fide replacement...and he didn't. Inexcusable.

OC? Finding a yes man instead of the best potential OC out there, was a cop out, and it backfired. That is all on bigMIke , again a measure of inexperience.

In answer to the above question, our HC and his underling coaches(except manusky) are poor, inexperienced or over the hill, and they are SLOPPY. We keep this crew, we will be the same team we were last yr, the yr before, the yr before, and 3 yrs before that. That can't possibly be what jedi jed wants...is it? Somewhere along the line here , he is going to have to own up to the fact that we need a REAL football person at the top. A HOFO, like Parcells, Bellichek, Pioli, Loomis, etc. They are out there. JEd needs to get himself a large dose of good advice from a HOFO, exactly like they have finally decided to do in woeful Cleveland. That is exactly what we need to do, and anything short of that will just be a short time fix.

Originally posted by CornellU49er:

Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
LOL, looking at the title I don't know whether this thread was about Alex Smith, or a dirty sex offer in the personals column!

Haha

We look even more sloppy against a team like Philly that's run by a close descendant of the Bill Walsh tree.

one of the matt's proved that "young" excuse wrong, we're not the youngest team in the nfl

i don't know what the hell is wrong with this team