Buyer Beware: The Cardinals Game Was A Fluke

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
It was nice to go to bed late last night with a studly victory over a hated divisional rival, especially the Arizona Cardinals. The team played well, the coaching staff seemed prepared, and the fans were pumped.

Now, back to reality.

Niners' fans have to take this game for what it is: A fluke. The Cardinals are a better team than the Niners right now, but as we know, every game is a new game, and you can only take one game at a time. This was one game. A great game for the Niners, and a stinker for the Cards.

Any victory is sweet, but the reality is that the Cardinals had no business turning the ball over seven times. Our defense is simply not that good, and their offense is simply not that bad. I hope fans do not expect the defense to be a turnover-creating machine from every game on out. This was an exception.

The same goes for Frank Gore, who looked terrific. However, let's not kid ourselves. Gore is a middle of the road running back. He's going to have a few great games, some average games, and some poor games. This was one of those special nights where everything fell into place.

The offensive line opened up huge holes, and dominated the Cardinals DL throughout the game. However, this is not our normal OL. We have struggled all season, and I doubt this one game changes the reality that our line generally stinks.

And, I sincerely doubt that our team suddenly falls back into the "smashmouth" philosophy. Who would we be kidding? We are a passing team that works best when the field is spread out. It just so happened that for one week, we could line up in a regular offensive formation and run at will.

Our CB's contained Fitzgerald and Boldin to less than 70 yards receiving TOTAL, but let's be realistic. Our passing defense was amongst the worst in the NFL going into the game, and I sincerely doubt that we are going to play weekly at a high level. It was just a wierd, wierd game.

And, finally, for those who think the Niners' pass rush has been solved, this would be another mirage. No doubt that we should salute the excellent effort of Justin Smith, Ahmad Brooks, Parys Haralson, and company. But once again, the offensive line performance this week by the Cardinals was a joke. If they played this poorly the week before, they would have surrendered 56 sacks to Jared Allen and the Vikings. They just stunk for a week, and we looked fresh.

So, while celebrating this victory, which was very sweet, the reality is that this game is indicative of the NFL. One week you can stink, and the next you can shine. The week before, the Cards whacked the Vikings and the Niners lose to the crappy Seahawks. This week, the Seahawks were crushed by the Texans 34-7, the Vikings destroyed the Bengals 30-10, and the Niners defeat a good Cardinals team.

So, I raise a toast to the David Baas', Dashon Goldson's, Ahmad Brooks', Dre Bly's, Adam Snyder's of the world this week, fully knowing that these players had terrific games. But, let's be realistic in our expectation of these guys down the road.

It is simply one week in the NFL. One wild and wacky week.

It is ok, buddy. I takes about 200 posts before you figure out that hatttttin is lame... lol

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
49er fan, i probably should just let this go, but i just can't believe that had you followed this board for the last 4 yrs you would have made your comments. I would suggest you do a little reading homework , say for the last 4 yrs or so on the webzone, and you would appreciate how off the mark your comments are.

Suggested ROE(rule of etiquette): when first posting, kind of ease into it, try and insult no one, learn who knows what he is talking about and who doesn't, then ease in some more and make some of your own football observations, then in time, challenge, with facts, those who know more than you. Had i written your post , I would have been mortified. Note: you have every write to say what you want. But generally, this is a pretty collegial, well informed bunch of guys. And, most are pretty tolerant and accepting of newcomers. Maybe you should return the favor?

I appreciate your concern, however we will have to agree to disagree on this one.

I have read the forum for a couple of years now. I have a pretty good idea of who knows what, and the posting style of these posters. Simply because I haven't posted as long as I have read, or post as much as others in general, does not mean that I don't know what I'm saying.

When someone says...
P.S. Some of the noobs are hilarious. They step in here, don't know jack about anybody on the board, and start accusing people of being haters, idiots, trolls. We've got to send some of these noobs back to the minor leagues.

That person is not displaying tolerance or acceptance of newcomers. Rather they are attempting to cyber bully other posters, based on post count and percieved "status".

For me, nobody on this forum displays so much knowledge that they should put themselves on such a high pedastal. It's laughable.

If you feel I need to wait around until "x" amount of posts to voice my opinion in the same manner as someone who has more posts, that's ok. I respect your right to hold that stance. I do however disagree with you.

The hypocrisy of what was being said is what I was laughing at, and the sanctimonious attitude that went along with it.

I replied to quotes, and disagree that my comments were off base. The quotes speak for themselves, and I stand by my responses. I recognize that you disagree with me, and I'm ok with that.

~Cheers!

Thats what I keep saying to my dada the whole night haha.

I like how we win a game most people forget we are not very good and start the PLAYOFFS s**t again


reality must hurt

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
It was nice to go to bed late last night with a studly victory over a hated divisional rival, especially the Arizona Cardinals. The team played well, the coaching staff seemed prepared, and the fans were pumped.

Now, back to reality.

Niners' fans have to take this game for what it is: A fluke. The Cardinals are a better team than the Niners right now, but as we know, every game is a new game, and you can only take one game at a time. This was one game. A great game for the Niners, and a stinker for the Cards.

Any victory is sweet, but the reality is that the Cardinals had no business turning the ball over seven times. Our defense is simply not that good, and their offense is simply not that bad. I hope fans do not expect the defense to be a turnover-creating machine from every game on out. This was an exception.

The same goes for Frank Gore, who looked terrific. However, let's not kid ourselves. Gore is a middle of the road running back. He's going to have a few great games, some average games, and some poor games. This was one of those special nights where everything fell into place.

The offensive line opened up huge holes, and dominated the Cardinals DL throughout the game. However, this is not our normal OL. We have struggled all season, and I doubt this one game changes the reality that our line generally stinks.

And, I sincerely doubt that our team suddenly falls back into the "smashmouth" philosophy. Who would we be kidding? We are a passing team that works best when the field is spread out. It just so happened that for one week, we could line up in a regular offensive formation and run at will.

Our CB's contained Fitzgerald and Boldin to less than 70 yards receiving TOTAL, but let's be realistic. Our passing defense was amongst the worst in the NFL going into the game, and I sincerely doubt that we are going to play weekly at a high level. It was just a wierd, wierd game.

And, finally, for those who think the Niners' pass rush has been solved, this would be another mirage. No doubt that we should salute the excellent effort of Justin Smith, Ahmad Brooks, Parys Haralson, and company. But once again, the offensive line performance this week by the Cardinals was a joke. If they played this poorly the week before, they would have surrendered 56 sacks to Jared Allen and the Vikings. They just stunk for a week, and we looked fresh.

So, while celebrating this victory, which was very sweet, the reality is that this game is indicative of the NFL. One week you can stink, and the next you can shine. The week before, the Cards whacked the Vikings and the Niners lose to the crappy Seahawks. This week, the Seahawks were crushed by the Texans 34-7, the Vikings destroyed the Bengals 30-10, and the Niners defeat a good Cardinals team.

So, I raise a toast to the David Baas', Dashon Goldson's, Ahmad Brooks', Dre Bly's, Adam Snyder's of the world this week, fully knowing that these players had terrific games. But, let's be realistic in our expectation of these guys down the road.

It is simply one week in the NFL. One wild and wacky week.

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
HATER

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
It was nice to go to bed late last night with a studly victory over a hated divisional rival, especially the Arizona Cardinals. The team played well, the coaching staff seemed prepared, and the fans were pumped.

Now, back to reality.

Niners' fans have to take this game for what it is: A fluke. The Cardinals are a better team than the Niners right now, but as we know, every game is a new game, and you can only take one game at a time. This was one game. A great game for the Niners, and a stinker for the Cards.

Any victory is sweet, but the reality is that the Cardinals had no business turning the ball over seven times. Our defense is simply not that good, and their offense is simply not that bad. I hope fans do not expect the defense to be a turnover-creating machine from every game on out. This was an exception.

The same goes for Frank Gore, who looked terrific. However, let's not kid ourselves. Gore is a middle of the road running back. He's going to have a few great games, some average games, and some poor games. This was one of those special nights where everything fell into place.

The offensive line opened up huge holes, and dominated the Cardinals DL throughout the game. However, this is not our normal OL. We have struggled all season, and I doubt this one game changes the reality that our line generally stinks.

And, I sincerely doubt that our team suddenly falls back into the "smashmouth" philosophy. Who would we be kidding? We are a passing team that works best when the field is spread out. It just so happened that for one week, we could line up in a regular offensive formation and run at will.

Our CB's contained Fitzgerald and Boldin to less than 70 yards receiving TOTAL, but let's be realistic. Our passing defense was amongst the worst in the NFL going into the game, and I sincerely doubt that we are going to play weekly at a high level. It was just a wierd, wierd game.

And, finally, for those who think the Niners' pass rush has been solved, this would be another mirage. No doubt that we should salute the excellent effort of Justin Smith, Ahmad Brooks, Parys Haralson, and company. But once again, the offensive line performance this week by the Cardinals was a joke. If they played this poorly the week before, they would have surrendered 56 sacks to Jared Allen and the Vikings. They just stunk for a week, and we looked fresh.

So, while celebrating this victory, which was very sweet, the reality is that this game is indicative of the NFL. One week you can stink, and the next you can shine. The week before, the Cards whacked the Vikings and the Niners lose to the crappy Seahawks. This week, the Seahawks were crushed by the Texans 34-7, the Vikings destroyed the Bengals 30-10, and the Niners defeat a good Cardinals team.

So, I raise a toast to the David Baas', Dashon Goldson's, Ahmad Brooks', Dre Bly's, Adam Snyder's of the world this week, fully knowing that these players had terrific games. But, let's be realistic in our expectation of these guys down the road.

It is simply one week in the NFL. One wild and wacky week.

Dude, it was 2 time we beat them.

Originally posted by wailers15:

Originally posted by RonMexico:
shut your damn mouth

shut your butthole mexico!!

Dude, it's San Francisco! Your asking a bit too much!

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Many angry noobs.

I'm not sure whether to laugh, mock them, or simply bar the front door. Somebody must have raided the pharmacy, and the troops didn't get their fix.

Cheers.

You got exactly the reaction you were looking for, and are now just banking the coals to keep that fire hot.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Let's see...Dog is a hater, is sinful, stupid, ignorant, a lousy fan, he should shut up and go home...unnhhh, i probably missed a few, but that was close, and there was certainly lots of repetition. When the game was half over, i actually thot the 9ers were wearing the Cards uniforms. That couldn't be us. Goldson helmeting 2 balls for fumbles(incredible plays, no question). Great double on Fitz(?) on goal line with pass incomplete. A sack with a TWO man rush? Wow, haven't seen anyone pull that off all yr. Alex in the spread, played very well. Once passing got going, guess what? Frank starts finding holes...funny how that always works(in other words , you pass to get the run game going). There were lots of other terrific plays, i loved the game, and i love my 9ers.

But for the record, put me down with Dog... because, like it or not, he's right. Still and all, it was a great game. But it was not the normal AZ nor was it the normal SF. For the Hater commentors and the "go home" guys, Dog is spot on. All i can say to you folks is sorry, we aren't that good(yet), and Az isn't that bad. Actually, despite the 200 to 1 against Dog, he's right and you all are...well, let's just say,
"Irrationally exuberant". Do i want us to go crush philly? bet your azz. But dog is still right.

About 5 mos ago Dog said 2010 is our yr. Hope he's right, but we need 2 OLs in first rd, another all pro OL in FA, we need an all pro FA passrusher, DE or OLB, and we could sure use a top flite DB. We do half of that and i'll be amazed. We still have a way to go, and there are gonna be games like this...but it just isn't something you all should be expecting ROUTINELY. Go Dog! Go 9ers, and let's beat the sox off of philly! Wait til i get to my bomb shelter.

Now you, like him, are insulting the majority of this board, and THATS the problem with his post. His premise that the lot of us are morons and think that our team has magically switched from a team thats middle of the pack and average to elite after ONE game.

WE KNOW THIS, and don't need you or MD or anyone else to come in with their ego anointing themselves our messiah of truth. I watch NFL games every Thursday, Saturday, Sunday, and Monday that there are games being televised. MOST people who post on this forum do as well. MOST people on this forum know damn well the Niners had a GREAT game, the Cards had a game get out of hand on them (much like us in the Atlanta game) and neither performance is indicitive of what is reasonable to expect.

What rubs people the wrong way about MD's posts, and gets them insulting him and such, is the arrogance and manner in which they are presented. He invites the reaction he gets, and does so purposely so that he can come back later and continue to encite by feinging shock and dissapointment about those responses, but in a manner that can not be construed as encitefull by the current rules in place.

In other words. MD simply enjoys coming to the zone to stir shiz up. He is smarter then those who made the rules and has found his own way to break those rules in a manner that requires those moderating to form an opinion and not attatch a hard and fast rule. That makes the mods uncertain and they err on the side of MD as his posts don't expressly violate any rules and he is indeed itelligent and is very insightfull in regards to the NFL.

Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
How was this is a fluke? We shut down Peyton Manning, shut down the Cards best WR's, twice! allowed 0 points to a team and 3 points to another, forced 5 TO in a game, and this game we forced 7 TO...

from the Merriam-Webster dictionary:

Main Entry: fluke
Function: noun
Etymology: origin unknown
Date: 1857

1 : an accidentally successful stroke at billiards or pool
2 : a stroke of luck

You should know this, you're an English Major, no?

So...technically, this can't be a fluke, since we've done this more than once, and we seem to be excelling at it.

still waiting on your reply maddog

The game was what is was, but thanks for the warning--even though I do not think most people on this site are stupid enough to warrant such a gratious warning.

I thought that we might win, but the dominance of the defense exceeded my hoes.

I was hoping for a different tenor in the post. Maddog has consistently degraded Brooks and Baas, and both had good games.

I

I want all NINER games to be a fluke next season so we can look good in the win column

[ Edited by TRAVELER_9ER on Dec 19, 2009 at 12:27:56 ]

haterade..waste of post..

I haven't read anything other than the original post, but based on the fact that this thread is 23 pages long, I'd surmise that there's a lot of MadDog bashing going on in here.

For whatever it's worth, I agree with almost everything he said in that post, which is a rarity. That game was a perfect storm, and it would be difficult to replicate. I think the team that we "actually" are is a lot closer to the team that lost to the Seahawks than the one that forced 7 TOs and ran at will on the Cards.