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Originally posted by Joecool:
This 2 TE set is a joke and will get figure out fast if we are not a threat to run the ball. Yeah, teams are really going to keep 3 LBs in the game because they are so afraid of our 2.8 yards per carry.

I'm sure the fact that ARI has a weak pass defense and strong run defense means they will play mostly a Nickel or Dime Defense. We can't run anyways and this will mean Delanie Walker won't have any mismatches.

I really think we need to go with 3 Wides with Jason Hill as the slot. He has the quickness for the position and he has very good hands.

Thats what we want. We want them to go to the nickle pakcage. Then we can unleash Frank.

Think about it!
Originally posted by MadMartz:
Originally posted by Joecool:
This 2 TE set is a joke and will get figure out fast if we are not a threat to run the ball. Yeah, teams are really going to keep 3 LBs in the game because they are so afraid of our 2.8 yards per carry.

I'm sure the fact that ARI has a weak pass defense and strong run defense means they will play mostly a Nickel or Dime Defense. We can't run anyways and this will mean Delanie Walker won't have any mismatches.

I really think we need to go with 3 Wides with Jason Hill as the slot. He has the quickness for the position and he has very good hands.

Thats what we want. We want them to go to the nickle pakcage. Then we can unleash Frank.

Think about it!

They have and we have and Frank still hasn't been able to break the leash which is why if we are going to only run 9 times, then we should just go with a true slot receiver who can run better routes and get open more often rather than a TE on a DB.

[ Edited by Joecool on Dec 11, 2009 at 10:25:59 ]
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by MadMartz:
Originally posted by Joecool:
This 2 TE set is a joke and will get figure out fast if we are not a threat to run the ball. Yeah, teams are really going to keep 3 LBs in the game because they are so afraid of our 2.8 yards per carry.

I'm sure the fact that ARI has a weak pass defense and strong run defense means they will play mostly a Nickel or Dime Defense. We can't run anyways and this will mean Delanie Walker won't have any mismatches.

I really think we need to go with 3 Wides with Jason Hill as the slot. He has the quickness for the position and he has very good hands.

Thats what we want. We want them to go to the nickle pakcage. Then we can unleash Frank.

Think about it!

They have and we have and Frank still hasn't been able to break the leash.

Well its tough when you send VD on a pass pattern every down. We need VD to be in on more blocking assignments. Thats play calling bro!
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by MadMartz:
Originally posted by Joecool:
This 2 TE set is a joke and will get figure out fast if we are not a threat to run the ball. Yeah, teams are really going to keep 3 LBs in the game because they are so afraid of our 2.8 yards per carry.

I'm sure the fact that ARI has a weak pass defense and strong run defense means they will play mostly a Nickel or Dime Defense. We can't run anyways and this will mean Delanie Walker won't have any mismatches.

I really think we need to go with 3 Wides with Jason Hill as the slot. He has the quickness for the position and he has very good hands.

Thats what we want. We want them to go to the nickle pakcage. Then we can unleash Frank.

Think about it!

They have and we have and Frank still hasn't been able to break the leash which is why if we are going to only run 9 times, then we should just go with a true slot receiver who can run better routes and get open more often rather than a TE on a DB.


Well, it's got to be Alex Smith's fault, right?
Originally posted by MadMartz:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by MadMartz:
Originally posted by Joecool:
This 2 TE set is a joke and will get figure out fast if we are not a threat to run the ball. Yeah, teams are really going to keep 3 LBs in the game because they are so afraid of our 2.8 yards per carry.

I'm sure the fact that ARI has a weak pass defense and strong run defense means they will play mostly a Nickel or Dime Defense. We can't run anyways and this will mean Delanie Walker won't have any mismatches.

I really think we need to go with 3 Wides with Jason Hill as the slot. He has the quickness for the position and he has very good hands.

Thats what we want. We want them to go to the nickle pakcage. Then we can unleash Frank.

Think about it!

They have and we have and Frank still hasn't been able to break the leash.

Well its tough when you send VD on a pass pattern every down. We need VD to be in on more blocking assignments. Thats play calling bro!

In terms of play calling, if Delanie is matched with a DB and with VD's and Morgans strength against their guys, we need to run more sweeps and take advantage.

Either way, they are stuffing us with their front four and if we are passing 40 times, we may as well get the BEST receivers on the field.
Originally posted by nvninerfan1:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by MadMartz:
Originally posted by Joecool:
This 2 TE set is a joke and will get figure out fast if we are not a threat to run the ball. Yeah, teams are really going to keep 3 LBs in the game because they are so afraid of our 2.8 yards per carry.

I'm sure the fact that ARI has a weak pass defense and strong run defense means they will play mostly a Nickel or Dime Defense. We can't run anyways and this will mean Delanie Walker won't have any mismatches.

I really think we need to go with 3 Wides with Jason Hill as the slot. He has the quickness for the position and he has very good hands.

Thats what we want. We want them to go to the nickle pakcage. Then we can unleash Frank.

Think about it!

They have and we have and Frank still hasn't been able to break the leash which is why if we are going to only run 9 times, then we should just go with a true slot receiver who can run better routes and get open more often rather than a TE on a DB.


Well, it's got to be Alex Smith's fault, right?

Seriously? You didn't know Smith was our best player this past game unlike the TEN game.
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by MadMartz:
Originally posted by Joecool:
This 2 TE set is a joke and will get figure out fast if we are not a threat to run the ball. Yeah, teams are really going to keep 3 LBs in the game because they are so afraid of our 2.8 yards per carry.

I'm sure the fact that ARI has a weak pass defense and strong run defense means they will play mostly a Nickel or Dime Defense. We can't run anyways and this will mean Delanie Walker won't have any mismatches.

I really think we need to go with 3 Wides with Jason Hill as the slot. He has the quickness for the position and he has very good hands.

Thats what we want. We want them to go to the nickle pakcage. Then we can unleash Frank.

Think about it!

They have and we have and Frank still hasn't been able to break the leash which is why if we are going to only run 9 times, then we should just go with a true slot receiver who can run better routes and get open more often rather than a TE on a DB.

Yet another uninformed Joecool post.

Quoted from Matt Maiocco's Instant 49ers:
Quote:
Why did the 49ers call 26 passes and four run plays in the first half? A lot of it was dictated by the Seahawks' decision to play their base defense when the 49ers had tight end Delanie Walker on the field, along with Vernon Davis.

In fact, there were several plays that were called run plays in the huddle that Smith changed to pass plays as part of the rules of Jimmy Raye's offense. Smith estimated that he changed a handful of plays.

"Some plays were running plays at the beginning of the game but because of what they had on the field, we audibled to a pass because it didn't make sense to run the play that we had," Singletary said.
Yeah Jason Hill in the lineup because he has speed and good hands but we have Singletary.
Originally posted by redrathman:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by MadMartz:
Originally posted by Joecool:
This 2 TE set is a joke and will get figure out fast if we are not a threat to run the ball. Yeah, teams are really going to keep 3 LBs in the game because they are so afraid of our 2.8 yards per carry.

I'm sure the fact that ARI has a weak pass defense and strong run defense means they will play mostly a Nickel or Dime Defense. We can't run anyways and this will mean Delanie Walker won't have any mismatches.

I really think we need to go with 3 Wides with Jason Hill as the slot. He has the quickness for the position and he has very good hands.

Thats what we want. We want them to go to the nickle pakcage. Then we can unleash Frank.

Think about it!

They have and we have and Frank still hasn't been able to break the leash which is why if we are going to only run 9 times, then we should just go with a true slot receiver who can run better routes and get open more often rather than a TE on a DB.

Yet another uninformed Joecool post.

Quoted from Matt Maiocco's Instant 49ers:
Quote:
Why did the 49ers call 26 passes and four run plays in the first half? A lot of it was dictated by the Seahawks' decision to play their base defense when the 49ers had tight end Delanie Walker on the field, along with Vernon Davis.

In fact, there were several plays that were called run plays in the huddle that Smith changed to pass plays as part of the rules of Jimmy Raye's offense. Smith estimated that he changed a handful of plays.

"Some plays were running plays at the beginning of the game but because of what they had on the field, we audibled to a pass because it didn't make sense to run the play that we had," Singletary said.

I guess you didn't realize that SEA made us 1-dimensional. They dictated what we do and they DIDN'T want to see Gore. Who's uniformed?

It would be interesting to know what they did in the second half because that's when we couldn't move the ball. Also, how did Delanie, our mismatch wonder do? Would he be a decoy if he's not being doubled? I don't think so.

The fact is that we are weakening the receiving ability on the field because we are trying to get a mismatch. The problem is that then why are we not taking advantage of that mismatch on Delanie more often.

I think our OC is getting too caught up in this rather than just realizing that a guy like Jason Hill excels in the shorter routes and would really spread the defense post snap more than a guy like Walker.

Like I said, ARI most likely won't go base package. Teams will begin to figure out that we can't run the ball well at all and they will ONLY show Nickel or Dime. Then what?

[ Edited by Joecool on Dec 11, 2009 at 10:40:30 ]
It's a question of who makes you better? Moran Norris or Delanie Walker? I think the answer lies with Walker.

Besides, I think a 12 personnel is more fit for play action than your standard 21. I think the teams needs to run more out of the 12 to keep the defense honest.
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by redrathman:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by MadMartz:
Originally posted by Joecool:
This 2 TE set is a joke and will get figure out fast if we are not a threat to run the ball. Yeah, teams are really going to keep 3 LBs in the game because they are so afraid of our 2.8 yards per carry.

I'm sure the fact that ARI has a weak pass defense and strong run defense means they will play mostly a Nickel or Dime Defense. We can't run anyways and this will mean Delanie Walker won't have any mismatches.

I really think we need to go with 3 Wides with Jason Hill as the slot. He has the quickness for the position and he has very good hands.

Thats what we want. We want them to go to the nickle pakcage. Then we can unleash Frank.

Think about it!

They have and we have and Frank still hasn't been able to break the leash which is why if we are going to only run 9 times, then we should just go with a true slot receiver who can run better routes and get open more often rather than a TE on a DB.

Yet another uninformed Joecool post.

Quoted from Matt Maiocco's Instant 49ers:
Quote:
Why did the 49ers call 26 passes and four run plays in the first half? A lot of it was dictated by the Seahawks' decision to play their base defense when the 49ers had tight end Delanie Walker on the field, along with Vernon Davis.

In fact, there were several plays that were called run plays in the huddle that Smith changed to pass plays as part of the rules of Jimmy Raye's offense. Smith estimated that he changed a handful of plays.

"Some plays were running plays at the beginning of the game but because of what they had on the field, we audibled to a pass because it didn't make sense to run the play that we had," Singletary said.

It would be interesting to know what they did in the second half because that's when we couldn't move the ball. Also, how did Delanie, our mismatch wonder do? Would he be a decoy if he's not being doubled? I don't think so.

The fact is that we are weakening the receiving ability on the field because we are trying to get a mismatch. The problem is that then why are we not taking advantage of that mismatch on Delanie more often.

I think our OC is getting too caught up in this rather than just realizing that a guy like Jason Hill excels in the shorter routes and would really spread the defense post snap more than a guy like Walker.

Like I said, ARI most likely won't go base package. Teams will begin to figure out that we can't run the ball well at all and they will ONLY show Nickel or Dime. Then what?

J. Hill > D. Walker in spread or any offense. But you underestimate the fact that we have Singletary.
Originally posted by DarthNiner:
It's a question of who makes you better? Moran Norris or Delanie Walker? I think the answer lies with Walker.

Besides, I think a 12 personnel is more fit for play action than your standard 21. I think the teams needs to run more out of the 12 to keep the defense honest.

I'm talking about who's a better fit if we are going to throw the ball, Walker or Jason Hill in the slot or even Battle in the slot.
It's simple folks. SEA did NOT want to see Gore so they dictated what we did. They wanted us to pass a lot and if we were going to pass a lot and NOT use our "mismatch" then why not just go 3 wide?
Originally posted by redrathman:



Yet another uninformed Joecool post.


BTW, you assumed I didn't know this. You look like the uninformed one when you left out the fact that SEA didn't want to see Gore and they WANTED us to pass rather than run. You forget the fact that we didn't use our "mismatch".

You also missed the entire point that 3 WR with Hill is much better than a 12 offense that is not taking advantage of Walker.
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