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Wodwo
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Originally posted by matt49er:
I wonder what's taking so long to hear about 2010 assistants. I'd like to hear officially that Rathman/Solari/Tomsula are staying. 3 good coaches and I would really like for Harbaugh to keep them.
They are already employed, so the 49ers don't need to announce anything.
It would be nice to have some sort of press release.
Gotta remember, though... the season isn't even over yet. Other teams are still making moves and will probably continue to do so.
Don't be in such a hurry... if the CBA drags out, it's going to be a long offseason.
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SandSlingin49er
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Originally posted by KD49ers:
Originally posted by SandSlingin49er:
Well there goes CHow for Qb coach................ Still holding out hope for Rice to be our WR coach........
Anyone who ever thought/thinks Rice would be our WR's coach, well is just is not living on planet earth.
Are you for real... How do you think Rice would not want to get into coaching. He is a perfectionist, and showed TO how to play (through training on and off the field) thats crazy how that guy turned out huh??
Whats your reason?
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Jcool
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Originally posted by SandSlingin49er:
Originally posted by KD49ers:
Originally posted by SandSlingin49er:
Well there goes CHow for Qb coach................ Still holding out hope for Rice to be our WR coach........
Anyone who ever thought/thinks Rice would be our WR's coach, well is just is not living on planet earth.
Are you for real... How do you think Rice would not want to get into coaching. He is a perfectionist, and showed TO how to play (through training on and off the field) thats crazy how that guy turned out huh??
Whats your reason?
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QB and WR coaches at the NFL level are not entry-level positions. Those are for coaches who have paid some dues and made the commitments to work in the business. Quality control is an entry-level position. Or, maybe QB or WR coach at the college level. --Matt M.
And furthermore ...
Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, Ronnie Lott, Steve Young all have one thing in common. None of those gentlemen has expressed any interest in becoming a coach. If they had, they would have no problem finding a job in the coaching business -- somewhere. --Matt M.
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There is absolutely no correlation between being a great player and being a good coach. Joe Montana didn't even want to coach his sons. Instead, he sent them to Roger Theder and Steve Clarkson. And do you really think Jerry Rice is willing to work long hours and move around the country from year to year to live the "coaching life"? The same goes for Steve Young. He'd be taking a paycut from his work at ESPN, and he'd have to make the commitment to be an absentee parent. There is one former 49ers great who does want to be a coach, though. Bryant Young just got hired as defensive line coach at Florida. --Matt M.
[ Edited by Jcool on Jan 18, 2011 at 8:34 AM ]
Originally posted by SandSlingin49er:
Originally posted by KD49ers:
Originally posted by SandSlingin49er:
Well there goes CHow for Qb coach................ Still holding out hope for Rice to be our WR coach........
Anyone who ever thought/thinks Rice would be our WR's coach, well is just is not living on planet earth.
Are you for real... How do you think Rice would not want to get into coaching. He is a perfectionist, and showed TO how to play (through training on and off the field) thats crazy how that guy turned out huh??
Whats your reason?
Well...is there any evidence that Rice has ever shown any real interest in coaching at the NFL level (or any level for that matter)? It is not like he would not have opportunities or connections if it was really something he wanted to do. George Stewart might also have had something to do with TOs development.
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SandSlingin49er
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Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by SandSlingin49er:
Originally posted by KD49ers:
Originally posted by SandSlingin49er:
Well there goes CHow for Qb coach................ Still holding out hope for Rice to be our WR coach........
Anyone who ever thought/thinks Rice would be our WR's coach, well is just is not living on planet earth.
Are you for real... How do you think Rice would not want to get into coaching. He is a perfectionist, and showed TO how to play (through training on and off the field) thats crazy how that guy turned out huh??
Whats your reason?
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QB and WR coaches at the NFL level are not entry-level positions. Those are for coaches who have paid some dues and made the commitments to work in the business. Quality control is an entry-level position. Or, maybe QB or WR coach at the college level. --Matt M.
And furthermore ...
Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, Ronnie Lott, Steve Young all have one thing in common. None of those gentlemen has expressed any interest in becoming a coach. If they had, they would have no problem finding a job in the coaching business -- somewhere. --Matt M.
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There is absolutely no correlation between being a great player and being a good coach. Joe Montana didn't even want to coach his sons. Instead, he sent them to Roger Theder and Steve Clarkson. And do you really think Jerry Rice is willing to work long hours and move around the country from year to year to live the "coaching life"? The same goes for Steve Young. He'd be taking a paycut from his work at ESPN, and he'd have to make the commitment to be an absentee parent. There is one former 49ers great who does want to be a coach, though. Bryant Young just got hired as defensive line coach at Florida. --Matt M.
What is J. Rice's favorite song.......... ????
My point being is no-one knows what J. Rice is thinking... You cant call someone crazy for suggesting he might return to the sidelines in some capacity... Wheather its a WR coach or just a home team motivator.... It is still a possability until proven otherwise.
PS. Since a beat writer wrote it, it must be true............ Matt M and Rice are tight im sure
[ Edited by SandSlingin49er on Jan 18, 2011 at 8:47 AM ]
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valrod33
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Originally posted by SandSlingin49er:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by SandSlingin49er:
Originally posted by KD49ers:
Originally posted by SandSlingin49er:
Well there goes CHow for Qb coach................ Still holding out hope for Rice to be our WR coach........
Anyone who ever thought/thinks Rice would be our WR's coach, well is just is not living on planet earth.
Are you for real... How do you think Rice would not want to get into coaching. He is a perfectionist, and showed TO how to play (through training on and off the field) thats crazy how that guy turned out huh??
Whats your reason?
Quote:
QB and WR coaches at the NFL level are not entry-level positions. Those are for coaches who have paid some dues and made the commitments to work in the business. Quality control is an entry-level position. Or, maybe QB or WR coach at the college level. --Matt M.
And furthermore ...
Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, Ronnie Lott, Steve Young all have one thing in common. None of those gentlemen has expressed any interest in becoming a coach. If they had, they would have no problem finding a job in the coaching business -- somewhere. --Matt M.
Quote:
There is absolutely no correlation between being a great player and being a good coach. Joe Montana didn't even want to coach his sons. Instead, he sent them to Roger Theder and Steve Clarkson. And do you really think Jerry Rice is willing to work long hours and move around the country from year to year to live the "coaching life"? The same goes for Steve Young. He'd be taking a paycut from his work at ESPN, and he'd have to make the commitment to be an absentee parent. There is one former 49ers great who does want to be a coach, though. Bryant Young just got hired as defensive line coach at Florida. --Matt M.
What is J. Rice's favorite song.......... ????
My point being is no-one knows what J. Rice is thinking... You cant call someone crazy for suggesting he might return to the sidelines in some capacity... Wheather its a WR coach or just a home team motivator.... It is still a possability until proven otherwise.
PS. Since a beat writer wrote it, it must be true............ Matt M and Rice are tight im sure 
I cant recall Jerry Rice giving any indication ever that he would want to go into coaching, Jerry Rice as a WR coach sounds great but doubt its a possibility.
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SonocoNinerFan
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Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by SandSlingin49er:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by SandSlingin49er:
Originally posted by KD49ers:
Originally posted by SandSlingin49er:
Well there goes CHow for Qb coach................ Still holding out hope for Rice to be our WR coach........
Anyone who ever thought/thinks Rice would be our WR's coach, well is just is not living on planet earth.
Are you for real... How do you think Rice would not want to get into coaching. He is a perfectionist, and showed TO how to play (through training on and off the field) thats crazy how that guy turned out huh??
Whats your reason?
Quote:
QB and WR coaches at the NFL level are not entry-level positions. Those are for coaches who have paid some dues and made the commitments to work in the business. Quality control is an entry-level position. Or, maybe QB or WR coach at the college level. --Matt M.
And furthermore ...
Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, Ronnie Lott, Steve Young all have one thing in common. None of those gentlemen has expressed any interest in becoming a coach. If they had, they would have no problem finding a job in the coaching business -- somewhere. --Matt M.
Quote:
There is absolutely no correlation between being a great player and being a good coach. Joe Montana didn't even want to coach his sons. Instead, he sent them to Roger Theder and Steve Clarkson. And do you really think Jerry Rice is willing to work long hours and move around the country from year to year to live the "coaching life"? The same goes for Steve Young. He'd be taking a paycut from his work at ESPN, and he'd have to make the commitment to be an absentee parent. There is one former 49ers great who does want to be a coach, though. Bryant Young just got hired as defensive line coach at Florida. --Matt M.
What is J. Rice's favorite song.......... ????
My point being is no-one knows what J. Rice is thinking... You cant call someone crazy for suggesting he might return to the sidelines in some capacity... Wheather its a WR coach or just a home team motivator.... It is still a possability until proven otherwise.
PS. Since a beat writer wrote it, it must be true............ Matt M and Rice are tight im sure 
I cant recall Jerry Rice giving any indication ever that he would want to go into coaching, Jerry Rice as a WR coach sounds great but doubt its a possibility.
Agreed. If Rice had ANY interest in coaching full time he probably should have been putting in the work at the entry level like BY did as a coaching intern at Notre Dame before Florida hired him.
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SoCold
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Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by SandSlingin49er:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by SandSlingin49er:
Originally posted by KD49ers:
Originally posted by SandSlingin49er:
Well there goes CHow for Qb coach................ Still holding out hope for Rice to be our WR coach........
Anyone who ever thought/thinks Rice would be our WR's coach, well is just is not living on planet earth.
Are you for real... How do you think Rice would not want to get into coaching. He is a perfectionist, and showed TO how to play (through training on and off the field) thats crazy how that guy turned out huh??
Whats your reason?
Quote:
QB and WR coaches at the NFL level are not entry-level positions. Those are for coaches who have paid some dues and made the commitments to work in the business. Quality control is an entry-level position. Or, maybe QB or WR coach at the college level. --Matt M.
And furthermore ...
Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, Ronnie Lott, Steve Young all have one thing in common. None of those gentlemen has expressed any interest in becoming a coach. If they had, they would have no problem finding a job in the coaching business -- somewhere. --Matt M.
Quote:
There is absolutely no correlation between being a great player and being a good coach. Joe Montana didn't even want to coach his sons. Instead, he sent them to Roger Theder and Steve Clarkson. And do you really think Jerry Rice is willing to work long hours and move around the country from year to year to live the "coaching life"? The same goes for Steve Young. He'd be taking a paycut from his work at ESPN, and he'd have to make the commitment to be an absentee parent. There is one former 49ers great who does want to be a coach, though. Bryant Young just got hired as defensive line coach at Florida. --Matt M.
What is J. Rice's favorite song.......... ????
My point being is no-one knows what J. Rice is thinking... You cant call someone crazy for suggesting he might return to the sidelines in some capacity... Wheather its a WR coach or just a home team motivator.... It is still a possability until proven otherwise.
PS. Since a beat writer wrote it, it must be true............ Matt M and Rice are tight im sure 
I cant recall Jerry Rice giving any indication ever that he would want to go into coaching, Jerry Rice as a WR coach sounds great but doubt its a possibility.
There was a great piece done on NFL network about why great players have a hard time coaching
Simply put they don't know what it takes to be great because they just are
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crabman82
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mattbarrows Pencil in another Harbaugh hire ... @YogiRoth USC loses WR coach John Morton to 49ers. He and Harbaugh worked together at USD.
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carias416
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MaioccoCSN
Not the former NFL WR.
http://bit.ly/exwbPp RT @YogiRoth USC loses WR coach John Morton to 49ers. He and Harbaugh worked together at USD.
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Harbaugh coaching staff update
Jim Harbaugh has plenty of assistant-coach candidates, but so far has made only three official hires. More promise to come this week, perhaps today. If Harbaugh still does not have his entire staff in place, he likely will resume the interview process at next week's Senior Bowl practices in Mobile, Ala. Where things stand as of now:
Offensive coordinator:
Greg Roman
Comment: Jim Harbaugh will call a lot of his own plays. Roman served the last two years under Harbaugh at Stanford and helped coordinate the team's running game.
Quarterbacks coach:
Unknown
Comment: Harbaugh served as his own quarterbacks coach at the University of San Diego and likely will be very hands-on at this position.
Offensive line
Tim Drevno and Mike Solari
Comment: NFL teams typically have two coaches for this unit, although one of them usually is an assistant. It's not yet known how the division of labor will be handled.
Running backs coach:
Tom Rathman*
Comment: Rathman has not yet been retained, but he is considered a leading candidate because he has plenty of experience in a West Coast offense both as a player and a coach (nine seasons under Steve Mariucci in SF and Detroit)
Tight ends coach:
Unknown
Comment: The team has made no attempt to retain Pete Hoener, who has served as tight ends coach since 2005. Roman coached tight ends both in the NFL (Houston) and at Stanford.
Wide receivers coach:
Unknown
Comment: Jerry Sullivan has handled this job since 2005 but he told The Sacramento Bee that he would retire to his home in Austin, Texas. Pep Hamilton, who helped coach quarterbacks for the 49ers under Norv Turner in 2006, reportedly will be retained by Stanford. Hamilton also has been a quarterbacks coach and could have filled that role as well.
**Update, 12:15 p.m.** Yogi Roth, a former USC assistant coach, Tweeted that John Morton will take over as receivers coach for the 49ers. Morton coached alongside Harbaugh both with the Raiders and at the University of San Diego.
Defensive coordinator
Vic Fangio
Comment: He spent 11 seasons as an NFL defensive coordinator. Last year he was Harbaugh's defensive coordinator at Stanford. He'll run a 3-4 system with the 49ers.
Defensive line:
Jim Tomsula*
Comment: This is another presumed retention that has not been announced. Tomsula, however, is popular with players and management, and he has presided over one of the team's best units since 2007.
Linebackers
Jim Leavitt*
Comment: Leavitt has interviewed with the position but has not been hired. He also is considering a position at Kansas State where Leavitt coached for six seasons prior to becoming the head coach at the University of South Florida. Leavitt has ties to Harbaugh's father, jack, and to the DeBartolo family.
Secondary
Ed Donatell*
Comment: The San Francisco Chronicle first reported interest in Donatell, a former defensive coordinator for the Falcons and Packers, and CSN Bay Area reports he is meeting with Harbaugh today.
Special Teams
Unknown
Comment: Brian Polian, Harbaugh's special teams coordinator last season, is likely to remain at Stanford. The 49ers might show some interest in former linebacker Jeff Ulbrich, who served as an assistant special teams coach in Seattle this past season. It's unknown whether the 49ers will retain Dave Fipp, an energetic and likable assistant under Al Everest and Kurt Schottenheimer.
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Some sad news. Granville DeMerritt, a fixture in the 49ers press box since the franchise's earliest days, passed away last week. DeMerritt - everyone knew him as Granville or Gran --was as warm and welcoming a man as you'll ever meet and he was a favorite among reporters and team employees. A memorial service for DeMerritt will be held on Saturday at 11 a.m. at Star of the Valley Church located at 495 White Oak Drive, Oakmont, CA (Santa Rosa).
-- Matt Barrows
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PatrickJira411
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John Morton, formerly an assistant coach with the New Orleans Saints and Oakland Raiders, is in his fourth year at USC. He joined the USC staff in February of 2007 as the wide receivers coach and passing game coordinator. He was named USC's offensive coordinator in 2009, while continuing as the wide receivers coach. In 2010, he re-assumed the passing game coordinator duty as well as handling the wide receivers.
In 2009, wide receiver Damian Williams was an All-Pac-10 first teamer and then was a third round NFL draft pick after the season.
Wide receiver Patrick Turner was a third round pick in the 2009 NFL draft.
USC played in the 2008 Rose Bowl, 2009 Rose Bowl and 2009 Emerald Bowl.
Morton, 40, was the passing game coordinator and an offensive assistant in 2006 with the New Orleans Saints, assisting in the passing game and other facets of game preparation on offense. The Saints advanced to the 2006 NFC Championship game.
In 2005, he was the passing game and wide receivers coach at the University of San Diego. The Toreros went 11-1 and won the Pioneer Football League championship.
He spent the previous 8 seasons (1997-2004) in several capacities with the Oakland Raiders. He began with the Raiders in 1997 working in the personnel department, then was an offensive assistant working with the wide receivers for 2 years (1998-99) and the offensive quality control coach working with the wide receivers for the next 2 years (2000-01). He was a senior offensive assistant in 2002, when Oakland played in the Super Bowl, and 2003. He then was the tight ends coach in 2004. Among the players he coached were Jerry Rice and Tim Brown.
Morton originally signed with Oakland as an undrafted rookie wide receiver in 1993 and spent part of the next 2 seasons (1993-94) on the Raiders practice squad. He also spent time with Green Bay in 1993, was in training camp with the Jacksonville Jaguars in 1995 and with the Raiders again in 1996. He played for the CFL's Toronto Argonauts in 1995 and 1996, then with the World League's Frankfurt Galaxy in the spring of 1997.
He played at Western Michigan for 2 seasons (1991-92), where he finished 10th on the school's career receiving list (78 catches) and eighth in receiving yards (1,278). He won All-Mid-American Conference honors as a 1992 senior. He received a bachelor's degree in general studies from Western Michigan in 1997.
He came to Western Michigan after 2 years (1989-90) at Grand Rapids (Mich.) Community College. He received his associate's degree from there in 1990.
He was an All-League receiver at Avondale High in Auburn Hills (Mich.).
Born on Sept. 24, 1969, he and his wife, Shannon, have 2 daughters, Tierney Rose, 6, and Sage Marie, 3.
MORTON SNAPSHOT
BIRTHDAY: Sept. 24, 1969
FAMILY: Wife, Shannon; Daughter, Tierney Rose, 6, and Sage Marie, 3
HIGH SCHOOL: Auburn Hills (Mich.) HS
EDUCATION: Associate's degree, Grand Rapids (Mich.) Community College, 1990
Bachelor's degree, general studies, Western Michigan, 1997
PLAYING EXPERIENCE: Avondale HS, Auburn Hills, Mich.
Grand Rapids (Mich.) Community College, wide receiver, 1989-90
Western Michigan, wide receiver, 1991-92
Toronto Argonauts, wide receiver, 1995-96
Frankfurt Galaxy, wide receiver, 1997
COACHING EXPERIENCE: 13 years
YEAR TEAM POSITION BOWL
1997 Oakland Raiders Personnel Department --
1998 Oakland Raiders Offensive Assistant/WRs --
1999 Oakland Raiders Offensive Assistant/WRs --
2000 Oakland Raiders Offensive Quality Control/WRs AFC playoffs
2001 Oakland Raiders Offensive Quality Control/WRs AFC playoffs
2002 Oakland Raiders Senior Offensive Assistant Super Bowl
2003 Oakland Raiders Senior Offensive Assistant --
2004 Oakland Raiders Tight Ends --
2005 San Diego Passing Game/Wide Receivers --
2006 New Orleans Saints Pass. Game Coord./Off. Asst. NFC playoffs
2007 USC Pass. Game Coord./Wide Rec. Rose
2008 USC Pass. Game Coord./Wide Rec. Rose
2009 USC Offensive Coord./Wide Rec. Emerald
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PatrickJira411
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Morton has worked under Jon Gruden and Sean Payton and has worked with Jim Harbaugh. Looks like a solid hire. Another good, young coach but with a decent amount of NFL Exp. I am liking this staff!
I see the Seahawks fired Jeremy Bates as OC. I would not mind him as QB's coach. He worked with Morton at USC and has a lot of background in the WCO.