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All Part of Singletary's master plan??
Oct 26, 2009 at 6:29 PM
- susweel
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Nah, Sing aint that smart.
Oct 26, 2009 at 6:35 PM
- JohnnyMo49
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
If there is one thing SINGLETARY doesn't have it's a master plan. LOL.
Start Chilo...
Cut Rossum to keep what is it 7 WR's many of whom are bench riders...
Rotating QB's...
Rotating Offensive Linemen.
Lol. You're giving him way too much credit. He doesn't have any plan much less a master plan.
Why are you such a hater all the time? It's one thing to be an unhappy fan and voice your opinions but i've never read anything positive that you've posted about the 49ers.
Oct 26, 2009 at 6:38 PM
- jcs
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Sing is as lost as his team is...
As soon as you switch QB's this early in the season it means you've mailed it in.
As soon as you switch QB's this early in the season it means you've mailed it in.
Oct 26, 2009 at 6:40 PM
- matt49er
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Sing made a comment that they wanted to give Smith the opportunity to get his hunger back, get healthy, get comftorable in the offense before playing him and felt Hill gave them the better chance to win at the beginning of the year.
Read between the lines I firmly believe that Sing knew Hill wasn't the long term answer even for this season, thus re-signing Smith and going after Warner in the offseason.
Now that Smith has had a chance to do all the things they wanted him to do prior to playing him (and things Nolan never gave him a chance to do-THINGS KEY TO HIS DEVELOPMENT!) Sing knows it is his time, whether or not Sing knew all along it would come this quickly or this way this season we will never know.
Let's just hope this kid turns his career around because that would turn this franchise the rest of the way around.
Read between the lines I firmly believe that Sing knew Hill wasn't the long term answer even for this season, thus re-signing Smith and going after Warner in the offseason.
Now that Smith has had a chance to do all the things they wanted him to do prior to playing him (and things Nolan never gave him a chance to do-THINGS KEY TO HIS DEVELOPMENT!) Sing knows it is his time, whether or not Sing knew all along it would come this quickly or this way this season we will never know.
Let's just hope this kid turns his career around because that would turn this franchise the rest of the way around.
Oct 26, 2009 at 6:41 PM
- SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by JohnnyMo49:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
If there is one thing SINGLETARY doesn't have it's a master plan. LOL.
Start Chilo...
Cut Rossum to keep what is it 7 WR's many of whom are bench riders...
Rotating QB's...
Rotating Offensive Linemen.
Lol. You're giving him way too much credit. He doesn't have any plan much less a master plan.
Why are you such a hater all the time? It's one thing to be an unhappy fan and voice your opinions but i've never read anything positive that you've posted about the 49ers.
Hey I'm just calling him on what he has done. I like Singletary BTW and think he brings some good things to this team also. His motivation is good. I'm glad he went with Alex.
Oct 26, 2009 at 6:42 PM
- SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by jcs:
Sing is as lost as his team is...
As soon as you switch QB's this early in the season it means you've mailed it in.
How could you not start Alex at this point? Heck I sure would.
Oct 26, 2009 at 6:44 PM
- SonocoNinerFan
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It sounds good, but I don't think so. I think it's as simple as Singletary just trusting his eyes.
Out of training camp is was pretty damn clear that Hill should be #1. Smith didn't do nearly enough in camp for Singletary to dump Hill . . . and Hill wasn't exactly spectacular in the pre-season himself. Even so I think it's safe to say the vast majority of the Zone agreed with the decision to go with Hill.
Now what does Sing see? He sees Alex Smith lead the most impressive two quarters of offensive football any of us have seen from the Niners in quite some time. That's impossible to ignore.
I just hope Alex 2.0 can keep it rolling.
Out of training camp is was pretty damn clear that Hill should be #1. Smith didn't do nearly enough in camp for Singletary to dump Hill . . . and Hill wasn't exactly spectacular in the pre-season himself. Even so I think it's safe to say the vast majority of the Zone agreed with the decision to go with Hill.
Now what does Sing see? He sees Alex Smith lead the most impressive two quarters of offensive football any of us have seen from the Niners in quite some time. That's impossible to ignore.
I just hope Alex 2.0 can keep it rolling.
Oct 26, 2009 at 6:48 PM
- geturembedder
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Originally posted by JohnnyMo49:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
If there is one thing SINGLETARY doesn't have it's a master plan. LOL.
Start Chilo...
Cut Rossum to keep what is it 7 WR's many of whom are bench riders...
Rotating QB's...
Rotating Offensive Linemen.
Lol. You're giving him way too much credit. He doesn't have any plan much less a master plan.
Why are you such a hater all the time? It's one thing to be an unhappy fan and voice your opinions but i've never read anything positive that you've posted about the 49ers.
Is there anything he said you could honestly disagree with? Aside from the rotating QBs part, which is off. Other than that he is accurate on all counts.
Oct 26, 2009 at 7:03 PM
- qnnhan7
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There's no master plan. It's easy, you ride the qb that gives you the W. Hill may be limited and his throws may look ugly, but he did gave us 3 almost 4(Vikings) wins. He just went cold and inept for 2 game straight. That is unacceptable. After what A.Smith showed us in the second half, we will ride Smith until he goes cold.
If that doesn't pan out maybe we would see Davis I hope it doesn't go that far. Nothing against Davis -Davis lover,chill!
If that doesn't pan out maybe we would see Davis I hope it doesn't go that far. Nothing against Davis -Davis lover,chill!
Oct 26, 2009 at 7:16 PM
- jcs
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by jcs:
Sing is as lost as his team is...
As soon as you switch QB's this early in the season it means you've mailed it in.
How could you not start Alex at this point? Heck I sure would.
It means you are getting desperate to find something that works...it means the plan that started this season is clearly not working nor is he giving it the time to even try to work. It's a bad sign and it typically means a team is in dissaray. This season is done...lets root for 2010'
Oct 26, 2009 at 7:34 PM
- tohara3
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Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:Originally posted by jreff22:
For the people that b***h about Sing, please remember this is his real freshman year as a HC. He has benched many guys and will continue to find the best players to put on the field, something Nolan never did. He found an OC he agreed with and hopefully the playbook starts to open up a bit very soon. He handled the Crabtree situation brilliantly along with Scotty. He has learned from his mistakes very quickly and is still learning how to be a HC. Have faith in the man he will come through for us.
Agree Singletary will get it done for us. You don't step up your play you are out & someone else gets a shot.
Oct 26, 2009 at 7:40 PM
- FredFlintstone
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Originally posted by jcs:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by jcs:
Sing is as lost as his team is...
As soon as you switch QB's this early in the season it means you've mailed it in.
How could you not start Alex at this point? Heck I sure would.
It means you are getting desperate to find something that works...it means the plan that started this season is clearly not working nor is he giving it the time to even try to work. It's a bad sign and it typically means a team is in dissaray. This season is done...lets root for 2010'
so you rather have hill still playing after 2 straight sorry ass games and continue to not being able to move the ball???? if we stick with hill i believe we wont win many gms still and then the season is done. it was the obvious move to bench hill, its not like hill is some star qb that got benched. at 3-3 you think the season is done
Oct 26, 2009 at 7:59 PM
- SonocoNinerFan
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Originally posted by FredFlintstone:Originally posted by jcs:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by jcs:
Sing is as lost as his team is...
As soon as you switch QB's this early in the season it means you've mailed it in.
How could you not start Alex at this point? Heck I sure would.
It means you are getting desperate to find something that works...it means the plan that started this season is clearly not working nor is he giving it the time to even try to work. It's a bad sign and it typically means a team is in dissaray. This season is done...lets root for 2010'
so you rather have hill still playing after 2 straight sorry ass games and continue to not being able to move the ball???? if we stick with hill i believe we wont win many gms still and then the season is done. it was the obvious move to bench hill, its not like hill is some star qb that got benched. at 3-3 you think the season is done
How many three and outs is enough?
Oct 26, 2009 at 8:07 PM
- TheGoldDiggerrrr
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Originally posted by zozell:
Is it possible that the QB situation is unfolding the way Singletary would have liked it to. As an assistant head coach before Nolan was fired, I'm sure he had a pulse on the team, knew who gave us the best chance to win, and had the most athletic ability. Martz then throws a wrench into the engine when he brought in his "Ringer" JTO. So Nolan at the time agrees to start him by the word of his OC alone. Singletary bites his tongue because he is not in the position to do anything.
JTO shows flashes then begins to stink it up. Exit Mike Nolan. Enter Samurai Mike. JTO's leash shortens as does Martz' freedom with his play calling. JTO has a horrible game and Mike is quick to utilize his hook. Yanks JTO and in comes Al... wait, Alex Smith is on IR. If he is not, does Mike give Smith the shot or does he go with Hill? Who knows. So he goes with Shaun Hill, and is pleasantly surprised at his toughness, grittyness, ability to lead the team, and knack for pulling of W's.
Everything is fine but the question of Alex Smith still remains. He undergoes surgery and cheers the team on from the sideline. Season ends.
Offseason begins, and Alex's throws look sharper than ever. Surgery looks to have helped Alex and he looks like a new man. Singletary still liking the fact that Shaun Hill is a proven leader and winner has a tough choice to make. Do you sit the guy that won games for you last year, or start Smith again on the merits of his draft position? He makes the right call, all the while knowing that Smith has more athletic ability, arm strength, and all around physical tools to be a better QB than Hill.
Singletary decides to do the Stand Up thing, and give his team a chance to win with the proven winner, though limited in his abilities. Does he also have an alterior motive? Does he want to bring fire, passion and motivation out of young Alex, who is now maturing into a veteran? Does he think Alex would possibly still fourish one day, when the expectations of his draft position and contract are further and further in the past?
We all know one thing, and that Singletary is a no nonsense kind of guy. He wants winners and he wants to win now! Hill starts to stink it up again, and Singletary is confident enough in Smith, that he decides to give him a shot... He comes in and tears it up. Of course they are playing from 3 scores behind, but you can't argue that he didn't look like a bonafide NFL QB. A good one at that!
So Sing had no choice but to bench JTO for Hill, because Smith is on IR. He lets Hill start, but does he do this with every intention of lighting a huge fire under Smith's. Did Singletary KNOW Alex would be starting at some point this season? I think so. I think it was all part of his plan to bring the best out of Alex. I think he knows how to motivate and lead players and get them to play their hearts out. I think we see a new Alex Smith from this day forward, and we have Coach Singletary to thank for it. Go Niners!
If alex put more air under the ball it was a TD not an int.
Oct 26, 2009 at 8:50 PM
- WillistheWall
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A couple people on here wondered if it would be best to give Smith some time to learn and insert him mid season and I even heard people talking about it on comcast sportsnet bay area during PS. I don't know if Singletary had that in mind or not though, but it's possible. We all know he has a stronger arm and can make all the throws. Shaun was mr. punt.