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If Mike Singletary had a master plan, it should've been to start Shaun Hill for 16 games, and ensure us a Top 10 pick. Then it would've been to take out DeAngelo Williams and Steve Smith and ensure us two Top 10 picks.
Originally posted by JohnnyMo49:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:


If there is one thing SINGLETARY doesn't have it's a master plan. LOL.

Start Chilo...

Cut Rossum to keep what is it 7 WR's many of whom are bench riders...

Rotating QB's...

Rotating Offensive Linemen.

Lol. You're giving him way too much credit. He doesn't have any plan much less a master plan.

Why are you such a hater all the time? It's one thing to be an unhappy fan and voice your opinions but i've never read anything positive that you've posted about the 49ers.

I have!!!...................., he mentioned that he liked the new uniforms that the niners had.............. oh wait, i'm thinking of another guy. nvm
Originally posted by zozell:
Is it possible that the QB situation is unfolding the way Singletary would have liked it to. As an assistant head coach before Nolan was fired, I'm sure he had a pulse on the team, knew who gave us the best chance to win, and had the most athletic ability. Martz then throws a wrench into the engine when he brought in his "Ringer" JTO. So Nolan at the time agrees to start him by the word of his OC alone. Singletary bites his tongue because he is not in the position to do anything.

JTO shows flashes then begins to stink it up. Exit Mike Nolan. Enter Samurai Mike. JTO's leash shortens as does Martz' freedom with his play calling. JTO has a horrible game and Mike is quick to utilize his hook. Yanks JTO and in comes Al... wait, Alex Smith is on IR. If he is not, does Mike give Smith the shot or does he go with Hill? Who knows. So he goes with Shaun Hill, and is pleasantly surprised at his toughness, grittyness, ability to lead the team, and knack for pulling of W's.

Everything is fine but the question of Alex Smith still remains. He undergoes surgery and cheers the team on from the sideline. Season ends.

Offseason begins, and Alex's throws look sharper than ever. Surgery looks to have helped Alex and he looks like a new man. Singletary still liking the fact that Shaun Hill is a proven leader and winner has a tough choice to make. Do you sit the guy that won games for you last year, or start Smith again on the merits of his draft position? He makes the right call, all the while knowing that Smith has more athletic ability, arm strength, and all around physical tools to be a better QB than Hill.

Singletary decides to do the Stand Up thing, and give his team a chance to win with the proven winner, though limited in his abilities. Does he also have an alterior motive? Does he want to bring fire, passion and motivation out of young Alex, who is now maturing into a veteran? Does he think Alex would possibly still fourish one day, when the expectations of his draft position and contract are further and further in the past?

We all know one thing, and that Singletary is a no nonsense kind of guy. He wants winners and he wants to win now! Hill starts to stink it up again, and Singletary is confident enough in Smith, that he decides to give him a shot... He comes in and tears it up. Of course they are playing from 3 scores behind, but you can't argue that he didn't look like a bonafide NFL QB. A good one at that!

So Sing had no choice but to bench JTO for Hill, because Smith is on IR. He lets Hill start, but does he do this with every intention of lighting a huge fire under Smith's. Did Singletary KNOW Alex would be starting at some point this season? I think so. I think it was all part of his plan to bring the best out of Alex. I think he knows how to motivate and lead players and get them to play their hearts out. I think we see a new Alex Smith from this day forward, and we have Coach Singletary to thank for it. Go Niners!

Darn it...Double click didn't work....

Even though I agree with so much with what you are saying, I disagree with your premise. This is certainly not the way Singletary envisioned it...I can guarantee it.

Instead, he trusted his gut about what he saw on the practice field and made the decision to pull Hill and trust Smith.

Great call!

[ Edited by ninertico on Oct 26, 2009 at 9:07 PM ]
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There aren't anymore excuses for Alex if he doesn't succeed. He's got a similar coordinator to Norv Turner, same system. He has Gore, Crabs,VD and Morgan to throw to. Yes the OLine is in bad shape, but still, he has to make plays.

This week @Indy will be a true test to see if Smith is legit or he just had a fluke 2nd half @Houston.

Here is to hoping we finally got our franchise qb.
Originally posted by PatrickJira411:
Don't tell me show me

Subscribe to NFL Game Rewind, click our game against the Texans, forward to the second half, and watch.

Sorry PatrickJira, I couldn't resist.

No disrespect intended.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by JohnnyMo49:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:


If there is one thing SINGLETARY doesn't have it's a master plan. LOL.

Start Chilo...

Cut Rossum to keep what is it 7 WR's many of whom are bench riders...

Rotating QB's...

Rotating Offensive Linemen.

Lol. You're giving him way too much credit. He doesn't have any plan much less a master plan.

Why are you such a hater all the time? It's one thing to be an unhappy fan and voice your opinions but i've never read anything positive that you've posted about the 49ers.

Hey I'm just calling him on what he has done. I like Singletary BTW and think he brings some good things to this team also. His motivation is good. I'm glad he went with Alex.

I have heard you say plenty of positives about the 49ers for the record lol
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:


If there is one thing SINGLETARY doesn't have it's a master plan. LOL.

Start Chilo...

Cut Rossum to keep what is it 7 WR's many of whom are bench riders...

Rotating QB's...

Rotating Offensive Linemen.

Lol. You're giving him way too much credit. He doesn't have any plan much less a master plan.

Not only Singletary, but from ownership down, the whole organization has a master plan.
Thinking of a master plan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZElWBsoyvUo
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Sing as much as said this is exactly what happened in the presser yesterday.

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"I think we see a new Alex Smith from this day forward, and we have Coach Singletary to thank for it."

I'm sorry but that's nuts. Singletary can hardly claim to have had a hand in Smith's development. Nor can what Smith has been put through on this team be seen as a model for developing QBs. Singletary said himself at the beginning of this season he didn't know what he had in Alex and said just this past weekend he didn't know what he'd get from Alex when he put him in. It was 21-0. Like he also said let's see what Alex does in this crappy situation. Smith has soldiered on; putting on a good face, through everything this team has thrown at him. Let's see how Smith fares before we claim Singletary has done him any favors. Then we can thank Smith for his determination. I was surprised when Smith didn't skip for a better situation elsewhere.
[ Edited by JC49 on Oct 27, 2009 at 11:15 AM ]
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Originally posted by JohnnyMo49:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:


If there is one thing SINGLETARY doesn't have it's a master plan. LOL.

Start Chilo...

Cut Rossum to keep what is it 7 WR's many of whom are bench riders...

Rotating QB's...

Rotating Offensive Linemen.

Lol. You're giving him way too much credit. He doesn't have any plan much less a master plan.

Why are you such a hater all the time? It's one thing to be an unhappy fan and voice your opinions but i've never read anything positive that you've posted about the 49ers.

Hater maybe. Too bad he's right.
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Originally posted by zozell:
Is it possible that the QB situation is unfolding the way Singletary would have liked it to. As an assistant head coach before Nolan was fired, I'm sure he had a pulse on the team, knew who gave us the best chance to win, and had the most athletic ability. Martz then throws a wrench into the engine when he brought in his "Ringer" JTO. So Nolan at the time agrees to start him by the word of his OC alone. Singletary bites his tongue because he is not in the position to do anything.

JTO shows flashes then begins to stink it up. Exit Mike Nolan. Enter Samurai Mike. JTO's leash shortens as does Martz' freedom with his play calling. JTO has a horrible game and Mike is quick to utilize his hook. Yanks JTO and in comes Al... wait, Alex Smith is on IR. If he is not, does Mike give Smith the shot or does he go with Hill? Who knows. So he goes with Shaun Hill, and is pleasantly surprised at his toughness, grittyness, ability to lead the team, and knack for pulling of W's.

Everything is fine but the question of Alex Smith still remains. He undergoes surgery and cheers the team on from the sideline. Season ends.

Offseason begins, and Alex's throws look sharper than ever. Surgery looks to have helped Alex and he looks like a new man. Singletary still liking the fact that Shaun Hill is a proven leader and winner has a tough choice to make. Do you sit the guy that won games for you last year, or start Smith again on the merits of his draft position? He makes the right call, all the while knowing that Smith has more athletic ability, arm strength, and all around physical tools to be a better QB than Hill.

Singletary decides to do the Stand Up thing, and give his team a chance to win with the proven winner, though limited in his abilities. Does he also have an alterior motive? Does he want to bring fire, passion and motivation out of young Alex, who is now maturing into a veteran? Does he think Alex would possibly still fourish one day, when the expectations of his draft position and contract are further and further in the past?

We all know one thing, and that Singletary is a no nonsense kind of guy. He wants winners and he wants to win now! Hill starts to stink it up again, and Singletary is confident enough in Smith, that he decides to give him a shot... He comes in and tears it up. Of course they are playing from 3 scores behind, but you can't argue that he didn't look like a bonafide NFL QB. A good one at that!

So Sing had no choice but to bench JTO for Hill, because Smith is on IR. He lets Hill start, but does he do this with every intention of lighting a huge fire under Smith's. Did Singletary KNOW Alex would be starting at some point this season? I think so. I think it was all part of his plan to bring the best out of Alex. I think he knows how to motivate and lead players and get them to play their hearts out. I think we see a new Alex Smith from this day forward, and we have Coach Singletary to thank for it. Go Niners!

Singletary? Here's Shaun Hill's take on it.

http://blog.pressdemocrat.com/49ers/2009/10/hill-says-hes-seen-smith-improve-over-four-years.html
Originally posted by SJniner7:
It's funny how all the Hill hater threads have turned into AS koolaid drinker threads. I am not taking anything away from the guy, he played GREAT... on a realistic note though, it was one half, and he was on mopup duty at that point. Had he actually led us to the victory, I would be speaking a different tune...

Agreed. It was still a loss. Against a laid back defense. I for sure hope it's not a fluke, I want to win. I can forgive the past, I just can't forget it that easy. Alex still has so much to prove.
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