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  • GEEK
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Originally posted by taney71:
Originally posted by GEEK:
You guys are idiots if you think coaching cost us the game. The three main areas that cost us the game are the following:

- Lack of 3rd down conversations. We lacked sustainability on drives due to 3rd down conversations. This would have at least put us in field goal position and earned us more TOP.

- Dropped passes. Coaches don't catch passes. VD, Crabs, etc had too many dropped passes out there. Another need in the off-season, legit WRs that won't drop passes.

- Lack of a running game. This is where a QB that can play in a pro-style offense comes into play. In addition, this is where good run blocking interior linemen comes into play. We don't have a balanced attack, which means we put all of our eggs in one basket. Too bad we cracked em before we won.


Moral of the story: This is exactly why I kept saying "One f**king game at a f**king time". People thought this was a slam dunk...wrong!

Our oline can't pass protect out of a pro-style. Everytime we tried the pass rush came too quickly.

Yes, but establishing the run would have helped the passing game in the pro-style offense. Gore and our interior linemen failed to do that yet again.
Originally posted by GEEK:
Originally posted by taney71:
Originally posted by GEEK:
You guys are idiots if you think coaching cost us the game. The three main areas that cost us the game are the following:

- Lack of 3rd down conversations. We lacked sustainability on drives due to 3rd down conversations. This would have at least put us in field goal position and earned us more TOP.

- Dropped passes. Coaches don't catch passes. VD, Crabs, etc had too many dropped passes out there. Another need in the off-season, legit WRs that won't drop passes.

- Lack of a running game. This is where a QB that can play in a pro-style offense comes into play. In addition, this is where good run blocking interior linemen comes into play. We don't have a balanced attack, which means we put all of our eggs in one basket. Too bad we cracked em before we won.


Moral of the story: This is exactly why I kept saying "One f**king game at a f**king time". People thought this was a slam dunk...wrong!

Our oline can't pass protect out of a pro-style. Everytime we tried the pass rush came too quickly.

Yes, but establishing the run would have helped the passing game in the pro-style offense. Gore and our interior linemen failed to do that yet again.

Aside from a few long runs by Gore the 9ers haven't been able to establish the run all year.
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by SoCal9er:
Originally posted by Super5:
Originally posted by mitpdub:
This loss just shows the many reasons why the niners are not ready for the playoffs. It sucks but everything that was wrong with us in the past showed up today:

-Poor special teams plays
-Frank fumbling
-VD dropping several catchable balls, especially the one that hit him in the face that would have been the go ahead TD.
-Alex Smith having an opportunity to take a leadership role at the end and failing to come through.


Wrong

VD should've caught the go ahead td and dropped it

Agreed, replay showed that VD was wide open and didn't haul it in. That pass was on target.

Focusing on one single play is overlooking the big picture...alex touches the ball more than anyother player...everything is funneled through him...he gets the credit and the blame for a win or loss...and once again he led us to ANOTHER loss.

That didn't take long.

~Ceadder
Lets be honest. This team has a bunch of guys who are backups at best, playing in key positions. Warriors, Giants, 49ers. All teams who need to learn that in today's sports landscape, you must spend wise money to compete and get those back ups into their proper place on the team and that is backing up the star players. There is an accountability star players have that these roster fillers dont.

Until we start throwing the money around, we'll keep singing this same sad song about guys not tackling, guys not catching, etc. We've had some good pieces brought in by the draft, but the more we keep combing the waiver wire to fill our team, the more we will keep feeling like this after the games are played.

[ Edited by 602_JamestownAve on Dec 6, 2009 at 16:51:23 ]
Originally posted by niners94:
Smith was the only guy on offense who showed up.

On his last series though he looked terrible. That was his moment to step up and become a player......and he did what he always did in the past.
Originally posted by taney71:
Originally posted by GEEK:
Originally posted by taney71:
Originally posted by GEEK:
You guys are idiots if you think coaching cost us the game. The three main areas that cost us the game are the following:

- Lack of 3rd down conversations. We lacked sustainability on drives due to 3rd down conversations. This would have at least put us in field goal position and earned us more TOP.

- Dropped passes. Coaches don't catch passes. VD, Crabs, etc had too many dropped passes out there. Another need in the off-season, legit WRs that won't drop passes.

- Lack of a running game. This is where a QB that can play in a pro-style offense comes into play. In addition, this is where good run blocking interior linemen comes into play. We don't have a balanced attack, which means we put all of our eggs in one basket. Too bad we cracked em before we won.


Moral of the story: This is exactly why I kept saying "One f**king game at a f**king time". People thought this was a slam dunk...wrong!

Our oline can't pass protect out of a pro-style. Everytime we tried the pass rush came too quickly.

Yes, but establishing the run would have helped the passing game in the pro-style offense. Gore and our interior linemen failed to do that yet again.

Aside from a few long runs by Gore the 9ers haven't been able to establish the run all year.

Agreed. We need Staley back and he HAS TO play on the Right. Sims sucks there, but he is a rock on the Left.

~Ceadder
  • Shifty
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Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by iohk:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by SoCal9er:
Originally posted by Super5:
Originally posted by mitpdub:
This loss just shows the many reasons why the niners are not ready for the playoffs. It sucks but everything that was wrong with us in the past showed up today:

-Poor special teams plays
-Frank fumbling
-VD dropping several catchable balls, especially the one that hit him in the face that would have been the go ahead TD.
-Alex Smith having an opportunity to take a leadership role at the end and failing to come through.


Wrong

VD should've caught the go ahead td and dropped it

Agreed, replay showed that VD was wide open and didn't haul it in. That pass was on target.

Focusing on one single play is overlooking the big picture...alex touches the ball more than anyother player...everything is funneled through him...he gets the credit and the blame for a win or loss...and once again he led us to ANOTHER loss.

9 dropped passes? what are u smoking

That's part of the game...he needs to overcome those things...especially when the D only gives up 17. I mean we are now running "his" O just so he can function like a normal QB...so what's the excuse for only 14 points in 4 quarters of Football...

Yeah damn alex giving the ball to gore to fumble and making battle and jones have a boneheaded fumble too.
  • B650
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Originally posted by Ceadderman:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by SoCal9er:
Originally posted by Super5:
Originally posted by mitpdub:
This loss just shows the many reasons why the niners are not ready for the playoffs. It sucks but everything that was wrong with us in the past showed up today:

-Poor special teams plays
-Frank fumbling
-VD dropping several catchable balls, especially the one that hit him in the face that would have been the go ahead TD.
-Alex Smith having an opportunity to take a leadership role at the end and failing to come through.


Wrong

VD should've caught the go ahead td and dropped it

Agreed, replay showed that VD was wide open and didn't haul it in. That pass was on target.

Focusing on one single play is overlooking the big picture...alex touches the ball more than anyother player...everything is funneled through him...he gets the credit and the blame for a win or loss...and once again he led us to ANOTHER loss.

That didn't take long.

~Ceadder

He led us to another loss? Or do you mean his WRs, TEs, and RBs let him down? Get a clue.
Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by SoCal9er:
Originally posted by Super5:
Originally posted by mitpdub:
This loss just shows the many reasons why the niners are not ready for the playoffs. It sucks but everything that was wrong with us in the past showed up today:

-Poor special teams plays
-Frank fumbling
-VD dropping several catchable balls, especially the one that hit him in the face that would have been the go ahead TD.
-Alex Smith having an opportunity to take a leadership role at the end and failing to come through.


Wrong

VD should've caught the go ahead td and dropped it

Agreed, replay showed that VD was wide open and didn't haul it in. That pass was on target.

Focusing on one single play is overlooking the big picture...alex touches the ball more than anyother player...everything is funneled through him...he gets the credit and the blame for a win or loss...and once again he led us to ANOTHER loss.




Amazing isn't it. For some of these people, Alex played better against the Bears than he did today.
  • Ether
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Originally posted by mitpdub:
Originally posted by niners94:
Smith was the only guy on offense who showed up.

On his last series though he looked terrible. That was his moment to step up and become a player......and he did what he always did in the past.

He looked perfectly fine driving down the field from his 1 to the 40 yard line before Frank Gore fumbled the ball.
  • B650
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Originally posted by Ether:
Originally posted by mitpdub:
Originally posted by niners94:
Smith was the only guy on offense who showed up.

On his last series though he looked terrible. That was his moment to step up and become a player......and he did what he always did in the past.

He looked perfectly fine driving down the field from his 1 to the 40 yard line before Frank Gore fumbled the ball.

It was Smith's fault that Gore fumbled. God, these people are a bunch of morons.
Originally posted by mitpdub:
Originally posted by niners94:
Smith was the only guy on offense who showed up.

On his last series though he looked terrible. That was his moment to step up and become a player......and he did what he always did in the past.

You were right about that, but his damn receivers can't make a play. That long pass to Morgan was a perfect example of that. Morgan just gave up. The game is on the line, you should at least run your route out. You never know what could happen.
Originally posted by mitpdub:
Originally posted by niners94:
Smith was the only guy on offense who showed up.

On his last series though he looked terrible. That was his moment to step up and become a player......and he did what he always did in the past.

Please dude, you cannot be mad at Alex for this loss. Ya just can't.

ST fumble on the reverse didn't help.

I don't blame Frank, but his fumble did not help either.

But AGAIN when your intend target gets MUGGED in the End Zone and the Ref that's right there is daydreaming instead of throwin a flag, that $4|T is gonna hurt ya EVERY time.

We got Shafted and y'all know it. So why even start playin the blame game with our guys. Sing TRIED to get the Refs to perform emergency rectal craniotomies on themselves but no dice. They like being mushrooms.

Yeah yeah I know the Refs don't control our fate. Well guess what. They just did.

~Ceadder
Originally posted by taney71:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by SoCal9er:
Originally posted by Super5:
Originally posted by mitpdub:
This loss just shows the many reasons why the niners are not ready for the playoffs. It sucks but everything that was wrong with us in the past showed up today:

-Poor special teams plays
-Frank fumbling
-VD dropping several catchable balls, especially the one that hit him in the face that would have been the go ahead TD.
-Alex Smith having an opportunity to take a leadership role at the end and failing to come through.


Wrong

VD should've caught the go ahead td and dropped it

Agreed, replay showed that VD was wide open and didn't haul it in. That pass was on target.

Focusing on one single play is overlooking the big picture...alex touches the ball more than anyother player...everything is funneled through him...he gets the credit and the blame for a win or loss...and once again he led us to ANOTHER loss.

Smith passed the ball into the hands of receivers who dropped it. VD dropped a go ahead TD pass and you blame Smith?

Receivers like VD not catching a ball that hit him in the facemask is VD's fault, Alex was on the money most of the game.

However, despite VD and Franks hands, Alex had an opportunity to pick them up, as well as the defense. He could have made this his best game by carrying the entire team to a win during the final drive. Instead he overthrows Hill who was wide open on the left and overthrows Morgan who's in double coverage. The DB should have caught that pass that hit him in the chest, but maybe that's the reason he's a DB. Alex didn't cost us the game, but he didn't get the win either. He let an opportunity go by.
Originally posted by B650:
Originally posted by Ceadderman:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by SoCal9er:
Originally posted by Super5:
Originally posted by mitpdub:
This loss just shows the many reasons why the niners are not ready for the playoffs. It sucks but everything that was wrong with us in the past showed up today:

-Poor special teams plays
-Frank fumbling
-VD dropping several catchable balls, especially the one that hit him in the face that would have been the go ahead TD.
-Alex Smith having an opportunity to take a leadership role at the end and failing to come through.


Wrong

VD should've caught the go ahead td and dropped it

Agreed, replay showed that VD was wide open and didn't haul it in. That pass was on target.

Focusing on one single play is overlooking the big picture...alex touches the ball more than anyother player...everything is funneled through him...he gets the credit and the blame for a win or loss...and once again he led us to ANOTHER loss.

That didn't take long.

~Ceadder

He led us to another loss? Or do you mean his WRs, TEs, and RBs let him down? Get a clue.

Ummmmm I'm going to be extremely civil here. I was pointing THIS out.

The poster has officially had his fan card revoked. And his posting rights disabled.

~Ceadder
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