Mike Johnson OC

Mike Johnson or Jason Michael. Even IF the overal scheme stays the same, at least the offense will know what play to run.

I really do not at all understand the fascination with Mike Johnson. Never heard of him until he showed up here. This reminds me of how everyone was hyping up Jason Garrett on the cowboys, someobody who had really proven nothing. Maybe Mike is a great find and a future OC, but I'm not ready to start sucking his......er...... well, I don't think I'll ever be ready for that, but you get my point.

Originally posted by Shaj:
I really do not at all understand the fascination with Mike Johnson. Never heard of him until he showed up here. This reminds me of how everyone was hyping up Jason Garrett on the cowboys, someobody who had really proven nothing. Maybe Mike is a great find and a future OC, but I'm not ready to start sucking his......er...... well, I don't think I'll ever be ready for that, but you get my point.

Because he's coached WRs and QBs and he did well when he was promoted to either OC or HC as an interim in ATL during the season Vick got suspended. His team put up like 100 points or something in 3 games. He can't be any worse than Raye, and it's not like Raye has a horrible play book his playcalling is just trash and he can't even say what play he IS calling.

To answer the question, yes, allow Mike Johnson to call the plays....and here are the reasons why....

First, he would do it quicker and crisper and allow Alex to read the defense and make adjustments at the line.

Second, he would undoubtedly be more innovative (and this is so badly needed as many of you have stated).

Third, he would also be more likely to try to exploit weaknesses in the defense (for example, a rookie CB or a slow LB or a light DLman)...

Fourth, because he has worked with Alex so much (groomed him basically), he more than anyone else is going to have an idea of what Alex is capable of in every situation and therefore put Alex in the best position possible to be successful.

Fifth, he would allow (and hopefully encourage) Alex to change the play at the line as he saw fit, thereby giving Alex more responsibility and more respect from the team.

Sixth, he would utilize the team's weapons better.....for example, Brian Westbrook, who we didn't even see on Sunday.

There are probably a few more but I will leave that to the capable minds of the Zoners...

[ Edited by nw9erfan on Sep 15, 2010 at 00:01:36 ]

Originally posted by chico49erfan:

Originally posted by 49erfoeva:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
What a joke this team is. I had hoped for better things in 2010. I absolutely can't believe we are even talking about this. An NFL team that can't get their plays in on time and can't communicate them with proper enunciation. These are just sad days for the 49ers. 4 - 12 or worse is possible for this group of clowns.

4-12 = andrew luck!

He said he's staying in school for another year . I would love Andrew Luck on this team, though. But I truly cannot believe that we're going to go 4-12 with the same coaching staff as last year -- that went 8-8. I still think we go 9-7 and win this s**tty division. Hopefully Baalke trades up and gets our franchise QB, though. And goes CB/passrusher with the very next pick.

This team would have to turn it around dramatically to win 9 games at this point. Not saying they don't have that capability but they had to have lost some confidence the other day. That takes time to build back up....usually more than a week. They have a great New Orleans team coming in and they have to go to another brutal venue (Kansas City) the following week. That won't be easy. Will improving the playcalling and the communication be enough? Let us hope so...

[ Edited by nw9erfan on Sep 14, 2010 at 23:57:50 ]

Originally posted by nw9erfan:
To answer the question, yes, allow Mike Johnson to call the plays....and here are the reasons why....

First, he would do it quicker and crisper and allow Alex to read the defense and make adjustments at the line.

Second, he would undoubtedly be more innovative (and this is so badly needed as many of you have stated).

Third, he would also be more likely to try to exploit weaknesses in the defense (for example, a rookie CB or a slow LB or a light DLman)...

Fourth, because he has worked with Alex so much (groomed him basically), he more than anyone else is going to have an idea of what Alex is capable in every situation and therefore put Alex in the best position to be successful.

Fifth, he would allow (and hopefully encourage) Alex to change the play at the line as he saw fit, thereby giving Alex more responsibility and more respect from the team.

Sixth, he would utilize the team's weapons better.....for example, Brian Westbrook, who we didn't even see on Sunday.

There are probably a few more but I will leave that to the capable minds of the Zoners...

Good points.

Your fourth reason is very insightful and spot on. I doubt very many fans realize how important the chemistry is between the QB and the guy calling the plays. Smith admitted during the off-season that he had learned more about playing QB from Mike Johnson in those four months than he had learned in all the rest of his playing days. There is a connection there that is being wasted in the current configuration. Even if Raye comes down on the sideline to talk directly into Smith's headset, it will not equal the connection between Smith and Johnson.

Yeah i'm sorry but this new story indicates that Raye is basically senile and needs to call it a career. There is no excuse for this. Singletary's loyalty will be his ruin.

I knew it was the offensive coaching staff all along.

Originally posted by contrarios:
I knew it was the offensive coaching staff all along.

And who made that brilliant hire, Sing. Sing's seat is getting hotter by the day...

Originally posted by nw9erfan:
To answer the question, yes, allow Mike Johnson to call the plays....and here are the reasons why....

First, he would do it quicker and crisper and allow Alex to read the defense and make adjustments at the line.

Second, he would undoubtedly be more innovative (and this is so badly needed as many of you have stated).

Third, he would also be more likely to try to exploit weaknesses in the defense (for example, a rookie CB or a slow LB or a light DLman)...

Fourth, because he has worked with Alex so much (groomed him basically), he more than anyone else is going to have an idea of what Alex is capable in every situation and therefore put Alex in the best position to be successful.

Fifth, he would allow (and hopefully encourage) Alex to change the play at the line as he saw fit, thereby giving Alex more responsibility and more respect from the team.

Sixth, he would utilize the team's weapons better.....for example, Brian Westbrook, who we didn't even see on Sunday.

There are probably a few more but I will leave that to the capable minds of the Zoners...

all good answers except the 4th and 5th, which are in question. 4th because Smith has not improved under Johnson, and 5th because I think Smith is not capable of calling plays or audibles.... he even said so yesterday... very confidence inspiring, huh?

I thought of this idea late season last year.

Smith and Johnson seem to have a good rapport. Mike Johnson could call the plays on the sideline. All adjustments could be discussed with Jimmy Raye during timeouts and halftime.

Originally posted by fanmusclecars:
I thought of this idea late season last year.

Smith and Johnson seem to have a good rapport. Mike Johnson could call the plays on the sideline. All adjustments could be discussed with Jimmy Raye during timeouts and halftime.

LOL I wouldn't even want Raye's input on anything. Let Johnson and Smith discuss the adjustments at halftime. Raye is just a joke.

Originally posted by fanmusclecars:
I thought of this idea late season last year.

Smith and Johnson seem to have a good rapport. Mike Johnson could call the plays on the sideline. All adjustments could be discussed with Jimmy Raye during timeouts and halftime.

I like this idea.....especially since I saw NO adjustments from Raye at halftime of the last game. Perhaps Johnson would actually have some ideas.

I agree that Smith seems to trust Johnson and that alone may be reason enough for the change. It is at least worth a try....

According to Matt Barrows, Jason Michael was in-charge of calling the plays to Smith last year. He has experience in Raye's system with their time together in New York. Just continue to let him "fill in the gaps."

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[ Edited by fanmusclecars on Sep 15, 2010 at 00:26:26 ]

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by Joecool:
Doesn't it concern anyone that Sing hears the plays come in during the game and not once did he consider the plays are coming in late or not worded properly and if Raye is calling them off memory that he didn't realize some of them may not have been in the game plan?

These are them reasons why Mr. Ray Rah is going to get beat by better coaching especially in the playoffs if we even get there.

According to one report I heard today, Singletary is not familiar enough with the wording of the plays to understand whether what is being said is the correct wording for the specific play. Raye is going by memory and Johnson has the specific wording and when they don't agree, there is a mess.

Awesome, another year of inept coaching. Let's bring back Jim Hostler to complete the circus.