T Brown fastest 49er?

Wasn't this the end of practice too.... Anyone that has ever played football knows that when you run these drills over and over it becomes more about heart and stamina more than pure speed.

Not saying that this is the truth but on my fooball team it was always the ones that were slackin a bit and not giving it 100% the first 9mtimes that won it the tenth.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by kronik:
Sideline to sideline is not really a 40 yard dash. I think of all the 49ers, Hill has the fastest official 40 time while VD is second.

While that may be the case. Sideline to sideline is like 100 yards, which is still a sprint. Lined up side by side apparently Brown and Morgan was fastest.

But like the other guy said there was an endurance factor to be considered.

Sideline to sideline is 50 some odd yards

Originally posted by mullintrax:
Wasn't this the end of practice too.... Anyone that has ever played football knows that when you run these drills over and over it becomes more about heart and stamina more than pure speed.

Not saying that this is the truth but on my fooball team it was always the ones that were slackin a bit and not giving it 100% the first 9mtimes that won it the tenth.

It seems to make more sense to take a measurement of a player's 40 after they have run it several times. Like getting their 3rd run. You could see how consistent they are, and how much their 40 time drops. In a game, you have to run many times, so one fast 40 time at the Combine doesn't seem to be a good indicator.

So someone like Heyward-Bay may run fast in a track environment, then after 20-30 routes, he probably slows down a lot. Maybe Jerry Rice kept his slower 40 speed throughout an entire game, which is why he made big time catches to finish...when cornerbacks started to tire. He was known for his conditioning, after all.

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by kronik:
Sideline to sideline is not really a 40 yard dash. I think of all the 49ers, Hill has the fastest official 40 time while VD is second.

While that may be the case. Sideline to sideline is like 100 yards, which is still a sprint. Lined up side by side apparently Brown and Morgan was fastest.

But like the other guy said there was an endurance factor to be considered.

Sideline to sideline is 50 some odd yards

was thinking up and back

He has two things going for him his self confidence and his speed and now he only needs to beat out Bly ...... should be an interesting battle ...... and will his speed and athleticism win out over an experienced veteran ? What can be said is he has a strong desire and heart to compete at the end of practice. He is demonstrating his claim to being the most athletic guy on the team.

[ Edited by 49ERGUY on Jun 7, 2009 at 02:22:04 ]

Originally posted by PaulW:
I thought Hill ran a much faster 40 than Morgan did?

This was after practice, when they weren't "fresh." This just proves that Morgan is in much better condition than most of the team is. In actual games, Morgan seems to be the bigger deep threat (Jason Hill is not much of a deep threat at all, despite his 40 time). The fact that Morgan is still fast after a workout is a good sign that he won't wear down in the 4th quarter.

[ Edited by 49erRider on Jun 6, 2009 at 15:35:36 ]

The title of this thread is very misleading.

T-Brown won one race at the END of practice, a practice that J. Hill sat out.

who would be the fastest Niner at the beginning of practice?

who would be the fastest Niner if everyone ran?

Misleading thread completely. A better title would be "T-Brown shows speed by finishing End of Practice Conditioning 1st"

That being said (as you can see on pg. 1) I'm a big T-Brown fan.

[ Edited by global_nomad on Jun 7, 2009 at 12:15:09 ]

If Brown can unseat Bly then that would be all the better for the Niners.

The point is Brown is fast. We've got possibly three corners now who can run with any receiver in the league. And Manusky's working on the pass rush.

I'm getting more and more excited every day.

Originally posted by Yetiman:
Interesting (very) observation by Dan Brown of the Mercury News:

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Play of the day

Singletary sent a message with the final conditioning drill. Before having players motor from sideline to sideline twice in succession, Singletary exhorted them to dig deep. “This is the fourth quarter now. It’s a crucial time in this game.” From my vantage point, it looked like Tarell Brown edged receiver Josh Morgan as the fastest player.

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Granted, this isn't in pads...when it really counts...but it's an interesting indicator in a couple of respects: Brown is fast, yes, but Morgan is perhaps our fastest receiver.

Just an interesting sidelight to the summer doldrums (heck, it's not even summer yet!)

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/49ers/2009/06/05/49ers-fix-singletary-expecting-more-from-balmer-in-09/#more-1484

Morgan is not even the fastest WR on the team,that would be either Jason Hill or Brandon Jones

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by kronik:
Sideline to sideline is not really a 40 yard dash. I think of all the 49ers, Hill has the fastest official 40 time while VD is second.

While that may be the case. Sideline to sideline is like 100 yards, which is still a sprint. Lined up side by side apparently Brown and Morgan was fastest.

But like the other guy said there was an endurance factor to be considered.

Sideline to sideline is 50 some odd yards

Sideline to sideline is 55 yards.

Originally posted by PaulW:
I thought Hill ran a much faster 40 than Morgan did?

A fresh 40 at the combine is a lot different than a 40 or even a 55 yd dash at the end of conditioning drills. That is why combine numbers are over rated. They have no pads and the players are fresh. The key is to find players who are still running, jumping, hitting with the same intensity in the 4th quarter as they were in the 1st quarter. That was probably the point of that observation by Sing.

Y2R

[ Edited by Young2Rice on Jun 8, 2009 at 12:01:33 ]

game speed is all that matters..

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by kronik:
Sideline to sideline is not really a 40 yard dash. I think of all the 49ers, Hill has the fastest official 40 time while VD is second.

While that may be the case. Sideline to sideline is like 100 yards, which is still a sprint. Lined up side by side apparently Brown and Morgan was fastest.

But like the other guy said there was an endurance factor to be considered.

Sideline to sideline is 50 some odd yards

Sideline to sideline is 55 yards.

53 and 1/3 actually...

Originally posted by PaulW:
I thought Hill ran a much faster 40 than Morgan did?

my freshman year in highschool we had colleges allover the south come in to watch

Irving spikes play( he went on to play for the phins in the nfl)

What was pretty neat is we had very organized spring camps with

speed coaches.

Long story short, I cut my 40 time down from 4.6 to 4.47 by working on were and how

i took steps. Basically stride training. Spikes ran a 4.68

I was faster then irving Spikes. OVER a .10 a second

but I never caught him on a football field. In fact , I could not really gain on him in a straight line. We would have needed MORE then 100 yards for me to run him down.


There is a world of difference in the type of stride Speed coaches use to get these low 40 times.

By the time you put players back in the grass , what ever happened on the track might as well have been a difference sport.