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So since they have only released certain pricing based on section is it safe to assume those that are in the first group have comparable sections at the Stick?
Originally posted by SportsFan:
So since they have only released certain pricing based on section is it safe to assume those that are in the first group have comparable sections at the Stick?

Yes, it says in the letter that I will have an opportunity to get similar seats at the new stadium. Unfortunately, just can't afford them.
Told ya all a long time ago; this stadium will be for executives, business comps and the like, it will NOT be for the real fans who have stood by this team for decades..
Hunter's Point or nothin...
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When did thid psl s**t start, with who? Has it always been this way
Haaaaaaaaaaa, my old seats that I sat in for 24 years are now $30,000 each for SBL alone, and $375 a seat per game. You who have been at the Stick for a long time, know what they cost me from the start to 2004 when I sold my seats coz I moved overseas.. These people...well I won't say it, but there is going to be lots of empty seats. Like sonoco said; he is going for single game day tix, but even then..unless it's upper or in the endzone they are going to be $235-$450 each...

Kiss my a$$ York's.... This for a seat in a parking lot in Santa Clara.. sad sh!t, not even the views Hunters Point would have offered..
Originally posted by NinersRule:
So I have 4 seats on the 20 yard line. According to the article I'll need to shell out 80k just for the privilege of buying 12k for season tix. Thanks for pricing out the fans that supported you for the 3 decades.

I'm off to go cry.

They don't care about you or anyone whos been loyal. All the Yorks and the 49ers and NFL care about is the $$$. I would be very pissed if I was a 30 to 50 year old season ticket holder with sideline seats, because they are screwing you big time. They don't even want you to renew your seats.
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Originally posted by 49erJim:
Originally posted by NinersRule:
So I have 4 seats on the 20 yard line. According to the article I'll need to shell out 80k just for the privilege of buying 12k for season tix. Thanks for pricing out the fans that supported you for the 3 decades.

I'm off to go cry.

They don't care about you or anyone whos been loyal. All the Yorks and the 49ers and NFL care about is the $$$. I would be very pissed if I was a 30 to 50 year old season ticket holder with sideline seats, because they are screwing you big time. They don't even want you to renew your seats.

Sure they do. You just don't want to do it for the price they're asking. You can sit (or watch) elsewhere, and they can find somebody who values the experience at that price level.
For $80k per SBL, that better include a few nights with a cheerleader of choice.
Still hoping my current seat - UB 24 - in the new stadium will be under 10 k for SBL. So hoping it is 5k as I could live with a one time payment of 5k. But if it is 10, 15 or 20 ... no way I want to pay that (unless I come into 20k of free money somehow). I plan on buying a house within the next year so it would be really stupid to mortage myself even further just for season tickets.
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by 49erJim:
Originally posted by NinersRule:
So I have 4 seats on the 20 yard line. According to the article I'll need to shell out 80k just for the privilege of buying 12k for season tix. Thanks for pricing out the fans that supported you for the 3 decades.

I'm off to go cry.

They don't care about you or anyone whos been loyal. All the Yorks and the 49ers and NFL care about is the $$$. I would be very pissed if I was a 30 to 50 year old season ticket holder with sideline seats, because they are screwing you big time. They don't even want you to renew your seats.

Sure they do. You just don't want to do it for the price they're asking. You can sit (or watch) elsewhere, and they can find somebody who values the experience at that price level.
It's a concrete stadium with some bells and whistles, like big LED screens, "elite" areas to look at trophies, more expensive light coors beer. The football is still the same, the concrete is still the same, just newer, less tail gating allowed, etc. Wait, how much will it cost to park, wanna bet $35+? Will this be the great experience of parking and paying enough to feed your family like kings at an avg restaurant on family night out?

What "experience" are you praising here anyway? The experience of acquiescing to a full on capitalist rape job, because it certainly can't be the ACTUAL real reason why people go to live games; because of the football and tail gating, because that remains the same, without any new bells and whistles..

Well, now if you are corporate or of that ilk, then you will come right before the game, be ushered into your seat, tell people to sit down and be more quite, if there are people like around you who could afford the seats.. and then leave ASAP at game end, probably early, to beat the traffic..

I fail to see where the experience matches the cost, especially considering where my seats were..

You work for the York's?
[ Edited by Bali-Niner on Jan 8, 2012 at 10:04 PM ]
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Originally posted by Bali-Niner:
It's a concrete stadium with some bells and whistles, like big LED screens, "elite" areas to look at trophies, more expensive light coors beer. The football is still the same, the concrete is still the same, just newer, less tail gating allowed, etc. Wait, how much will it cost to park, wanna bet $35+? Will this be the great experience of parking and paying enough to feed your family like kings at an avg restaurant on family night out?

What "experience" are you praising here anyway? The experience of acquiescing to a full on capitalist rape job, because it certainly can't be the ACTUAL real reason why people go to live games; because of the football and tail gating, because that remains the same, without any new bells and whistles..

Well, now if you are corporate or of that ilk, then you will come right before the game, be ushered into your seat, tell people to sit down and be more quite, if there are people like around you who could afford the seats.. and then leave ASAP at game end, probably early, to beat the traffic..

I fail to see where the experience matches the cost, especially considering where my seats were..

You work for the York's?

If you don't believe the value of what they are offering matches the price they're asking... don't pay it.

What's the problem here? That fans clamored for a brand new stadium and don't want a similarly brand new pricing structure? That things change? That a for-profit franchise is trying not to go bankrupt from funding a $1 billion stadium?

If their price elasticity of demand models showed they could charge $100k per seat and not have it impact overall demand...then they would absolutely charge that amount. As would you, in their position. That's just economics 101.

Just because I support a for-profit business' right to make money does not mean I work for the Yorks. You are not a victim. This stadium will sell out with regularity.
Originally posted by okdkid:
If you don't believe the value of what they are offering matches the price they're asking... don't pay it.

What's the problem here? That fans clamored for a brand new stadium and don't want a similarly brand new pricing structure? That things change? That a for-profit franchise is trying not to go bankrupt from funding a $1 billion stadium?

If their price elasticity of demand models showed they could charge $100k per seat and not have it impact overall demand...then they would absolutely charge that amount. As would you, in their position. That's just economics 101.

Just because I support a for-profit business' right to make money does not mean I work for the Yorks. You are not a victim. This stadium will sell out with regularity.
i don't believe the franchise is funding the complete cost of the stadium. being an out of state ticket holder i'm only interested in my seat 5-8 times a year and don't give a rat's ass about the other events yet as a football season ticket holder i am being asked to help fund a stadium for santa clara. i would think economics 101 would tell you not to spend what you can't afford so i don't see why i should help with the construction. i don't have an issue with ticket price increases since i am paying for the specific product i want.
Originally posted by Bali-Niner:
Haaaaaaaaaaa, my old seats that I sat in for 24 years are now $30,000 each for SBL alone, and $375 a seat per game. You who have been at the Stick for a long time, know what they cost me from the start to 2004 when I sold my seats coz I moved overseas.. These people...well I won't say it, but there is going to be lots of empty seats. Like sonoco said; he is going for single game day tix, but even then..unless it's upper or in the endzone they are going to be $235-$450 each...

Kiss my a$$ York's.... This for a seat in a parking lot in Santa Clara.. sad sh!t, not even the views Hunters Point would have offered..

You are lying to yourself if you are saying this stadium is going to have a lot of empty seats. This new stadium will sell out.
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by Bali-Niner:
It's a concrete stadium with some bells and whistles, like big LED screens, "elite" areas to look at trophies, more expensive light coors beer. The football is still the same, the concrete is still the same, just newer, less tail gating allowed, etc. Wait, how much will it cost to park, wanna bet $35+? Will this be the great experience of parking and paying enough to feed your family like kings at an avg restaurant on family night out?

What "experience" are you praising here anyway? The experience of acquiescing to a full on capitalist rape job, because it certainly can't be the ACTUAL real reason why people go to live games; because of the football and tail gating, because that remains the same, without any new bells and whistles..

Well, now if you are corporate or of that ilk, then you will come right before the game, be ushered into your seat, tell people to sit down and be more quite, if there are people like around you who could afford the seats.. and then leave ASAP at game end, probably early, to beat the traffic..

I fail to see where the experience matches the cost, especially considering where my seats were..

You work for the York's?

If you don't believe the value of what they are offering matches the price they're asking... don't pay it.

What's the problem here? That fans clamored for a brand new stadium and don't want a similarly brand new pricing structure? That things change? That a for-profit franchise is trying not to go bankrupt from funding a $1 billion stadium?

If their price elasticity of demand models showed they could charge $100k per seat and not have it impact overall demand...then they would absolutely charge that amount. As would you, in their position. That's just economics 101.

Just because I support a for-profit business' right to make money does not mean I work for the Yorks. You are not a victim. This stadium will sell out with regularity.
Well I for one did not clamor for a new stadium, especially one where they are putting it. It's OK, my time is over going to live games on a season ticket holder basis, because to me this is gouging to the max. Yes, I do choose not to pay. I think there are probably thousands of people who are long time 49er fans @ the Stick that will argue your premise that they are not victims of corporate greed. Sure it's the American way for BIG business in the recent last 20 years, but as the years go by the greed goes ahhh beyond good taste, if there ever was any good taste to it.

You can have this ultra greed system, and the cake that goes with it. I for one choose not to agree, or participate as a willing peon to feed the all ready engorged top 8% who control the money. Yes, that would the people who bankrupted the country, then got free loans from the gov, then paid themselves big time raises, then asked for more free money from the very people that they drove into homelessness.. cool...
[ Edited by Bali-Niner on Jan 8, 2012 at 10:43 PM ]
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Originally posted by stepnez:
Originally posted by okdkid:
If you don't believe the value of what they are offering matches the price they're asking... don't pay it.

What's the problem here? That fans clamored for a brand new stadium and don't want a similarly brand new pricing structure? That things change? That a for-profit franchise is trying not to go bankrupt from funding a $1 billion stadium?

If their price elasticity of demand models showed they could charge $100k per seat and not have it impact overall demand...then they would absolutely charge that amount. As would you, in their position. That's just economics 101.

Just because I support a for-profit business' right to make money does not mean I work for the Yorks. You are not a victim. This stadium will sell out with regularity.
i don't believe the franchise is funding the complete cost of the stadium. being an out of state ticket holder i'm only interested in my seat 5-8 times a year and don't give a rat's ass about the other events yet as a football season ticket holder i am being asked to help fund a stadium for santa clara. i would think economics 101 would tell you not to spend what you can't afford so i don't see why i should help with the construction. i don't have an issue with ticket price increases since i am paying for the specific product i want.

They're looking for ticket buyers who are willing to make a bigger commitment to the stadium. I think you know your situation does not represent the majority of fans (out of state season ticket holders). They can't satisfy everyone.

And they certainly will be able to afford it, with the ticket pricing being discussed. They had the pricing structure in place before they secured the loans, you can believe that. No bank would loan money without that set in stone.

If they were going to stick to a throwback pricing system (like they use now), they likely would not be able to afford a top-tier stadium. In that scenario, in lieu of SBLs, the Niners would charge 4x more per seat. Point is, they'd get that money some how. Better with SBLs than $300 upper level seats. With SBLs they can keep the average ticket price in line with the rest of the NFL.
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