QB Competition

I think that the more reps Alex gets the better he will get. I'm not too worried about the short routes at this point. That will come. I give Alex the edge to win the starting job. I think some of you are forgetting how Alex looked early in 2007. He was 2-1 before his injury occurred. I thought he did a good job vs. Arizona at the season opener on Monday night football! Remember the deep pass that Darrell Jackson dropped? Remember Alex's 30+ yard scramble on the final game winning drive? Remember the game winning end-around by Arnaz Battle? That was a great game for Alex! I believe he was really beginning to turn the corner.

Originally posted by PTulini:
I think that the more reps Alex gets the better he will get. I'm not too worried about the short routes at this point. That will come. I give Alex the edge to win the starting job. I think some of you are forgetting how Alex looked early in 2007. He was 2-1 before his injury occurred. I thought he did a good job vs. Arizona at the season opener on Monday night football! Remember the deep pass that Darrell Jackson dropped? Remember Alex's 30+ yard scramble on the final game winning drive? Remember the game winning end-around by Arnaz Battle? That was a great game for Alex! I believe he was really beginning to turn the corner.

I memmer you memmer, MEMMER!!! Go Smith!!!!

Originally posted by PTulini:
I think that the more reps Alex gets the better he will get. I'm not too worried about the short routes at this point. That will come. I give Alex the edge to win the starting job. I think some of you are forgetting how Alex looked early in 2007. He was 2-1 before his injury occurred. I thought he did a good job vs. Arizona at the season opener on Monday night football! Remember the deep pass that Darrell Jackson dropped? Remember Alex's 30+ yard scramble on the final game winning drive? Remember the game winning end-around by Arnaz Battle? That was a great game for Alex! I believe he was really beginning to turn the corner.

I 'member....I was like f--kin D-Jack!!!!

Originally posted by Nes49:

Originally posted by PTulini:
I think that the more reps Alex gets the better he will get. I'm not too worried about the short routes at this point. That will come. I give Alex the edge to win the starting job. I think some of you are forgetting how Alex looked early in 2007. He was 2-1 before his injury occurred. I thought he did a good job vs. Arizona at the season opener on Monday night football! Remember the deep pass that Darrell Jackson dropped? Remember Alex's 30+ yard scramble on the final game winning drive? Remember the game winning end-around by Arnaz Battle? That was a great game for Alex! I believe he was really beginning to turn the corner.

I 'member....I was like f--kin D-Jack!!!!

I don't member!! He dropped so many passes that they all kind of blend into one big incomplete pass

Originally posted by backontop:

Originally posted by Nes49:

Originally posted by PTulini:
I think that the more reps Alex gets the better he will get. I'm not too worried about the short routes at this point. That will come. I give Alex the edge to win the starting job. I think some of you are forgetting how Alex looked early in 2007. He was 2-1 before his injury occurred. I thought he did a good job vs. Arizona at the season opener on Monday night football! Remember the deep pass that Darrell Jackson dropped? Remember Alex's 30+ yard scramble on the final game winning drive? Remember the game winning end-around by Arnaz Battle? That was a great game for Alex! I believe he was really beginning to turn the corner.

I 'member....I was like f--kin D-Jack!!!!

I don't member!! He dropped so many passes that they all kind of blend into one big incomplete pass

I was surprised to find out that Battle led the team in drops that year,I would have bet money it would have been D-Drop.

Originally posted by backontop:

Originally posted by Nes49:

Originally posted by PTulini:
I think that the more reps Alex gets the better he will get. I'm not too worried about the short routes at this point. That will come. I give Alex the edge to win the starting job. I think some of you are forgetting how Alex looked early in 2007. He was 2-1 before his injury occurred. I thought he did a good job vs. Arizona at the season opener on Monday night football! Remember the deep pass that Darrell Jackson dropped? Remember Alex's 30+ yard scramble on the final game winning drive? Remember the game winning end-around by Arnaz Battle? That was a great game for Alex! I believe he was really beginning to turn the corner.

I 'member....I was like f--kin D-Jack!!!!

I don't member!! He dropped so many passes that they all kind of blend into one big incomplete pass

Shaun Hill jumps into this conversation: speak for yourself, man! He caught em when I was throwing them.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by backontop:

Originally posted by Nes49:

Originally posted by PTulini:
I think that the more reps Alex gets the better he will get. I'm not too worried about the short routes at this point. That will come. I give Alex the edge to win the starting job. I think some of you are forgetting how Alex looked early in 2007. He was 2-1 before his injury occurred. I thought he did a good job vs. Arizona at the season opener on Monday night football! Remember the deep pass that Darrell Jackson dropped? Remember Alex's 30+ yard scramble on the final game winning drive? Remember the game winning end-around by Arnaz Battle? That was a great game for Alex! I believe he was really beginning to turn the corner.

I 'member....I was like f--kin D-Jack!!!!

I don't member!! He dropped so many passes that they all kind of blend into one big incomplete pass

I was surprised to find out that Battle led the team in drops that year,I would have bet money it would have been D-Drop.

Wow I didn't know that, always thought of him as a very reliable receiver. It also seems its not looking good for him this year.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by backontop:

Originally posted by Nes49:

Originally posted by PTulini:
I think that the more reps Alex gets the better he will get. I'm not too worried about the short routes at this point. That will come. I give Alex the edge to win the starting job. I think some of you are forgetting how Alex looked early in 2007. He was 2-1 before his injury occurred. I thought he did a good job vs. Arizona at the season opener on Monday night football! Remember the deep pass that Darrell Jackson dropped? Remember Alex's 30+ yard scramble on the final game winning drive? Remember the game winning end-around by Arnaz Battle? That was a great game for Alex! I believe he was really beginning to turn the corner.

I 'member....I was like f--kin D-Jack!!!!

I don't member!! He dropped so many passes that they all kind of blend into one big incomplete pass

I was surprised to find out that Battle led the team in drops that year,I would have bet money it would have been D-Drop.

Wow I didn't know that, always thought of him as a very reliable receiver. It also seems its not looking good for him this year.

Yeah man,it blew my mind too.The year before he was one of the surest handed in the biz,guess D-drop was contagious.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by backontop:

Originally posted by Nes49:

Originally posted by PTulini:
I think that the more reps Alex gets the better he will get. I'm not too worried about the short routes at this point. That will come. I give Alex the edge to win the starting job. I think some of you are forgetting how Alex looked early in 2007. He was 2-1 before his injury occurred. I thought he did a good job vs. Arizona at the season opener on Monday night football! Remember the deep pass that Darrell Jackson dropped? Remember Alex's 30+ yard scramble on the final game winning drive? Remember the game winning end-around by Arnaz Battle? That was a great game for Alex! I believe he was really beginning to turn the corner.

I 'member....I was like f--kin D-Jack!!!!

I don't member!! He dropped so many passes that they all kind of blend into one big incomplete pass

I was surprised to find out that Battle led the team in drops that year,I would have bet money it would have been D-Drop.

Wow I didn't know that, always thought of him as a very reliable receiver. It also seems its not looking good for him this year.

Yeah man,it blew my mind too.The year before he was one of the surest handed in the biz,guess D-drop was contagious.

everyone had a case of the droppsies that year. I think D-Drop spread his desease around the WR core.

Originally posted by Joecool:


Shaun Hill jumps into this conversation: speak for yourself, man! He caught em when I was throwing them.

Meh, it's amazing what one can accomplish when one starts to see the axe being sharpened at the end of a year.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by backontop:

Originally posted by Nes49:

Originally posted by PTulini:
I think that the more reps Alex gets the better he will get. I'm not too worried about the short routes at this point. That will come. I give Alex the edge to win the starting job. I think some of you are forgetting how Alex looked early in 2007. He was 2-1 before his injury occurred. I thought he did a good job vs. Arizona at the season opener on Monday night football! Remember the deep pass that Darrell Jackson dropped? Remember Alex's 30+ yard scramble on the final game winning drive? Remember the game winning end-around by Arnaz Battle? That was a great game for Alex! I believe he was really beginning to turn the corner.

I 'member....I was like f--kin D-Jack!!!!

I don't member!! He dropped so many passes that they all kind of blend into one big incomplete pass

I was surprised to find out that Battle led the team in drops that year,I would have bet money it would have been D-Drop.

Wow I didn't know that, always thought of him as a very reliable receiver. It also seems its not looking good for him this year.

Yeah man,it blew my mind too.The year before he was one of the surest handed in the biz,guess D-drop was contagious.

Or could it be that our WR coach isn't doing his job?? Did I just take a shot at the great Jerry Sullivan!!

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by backontop:

Originally posted by Nes49:

Originally posted by PTulini:
I think that the more reps Alex gets the better he will get. I'm not too worried about the short routes at this point. That will come. I give Alex the edge to win the starting job. I think some of you are forgetting how Alex looked early in 2007. He was 2-1 before his injury occurred. I thought he did a good job vs. Arizona at the season opener on Monday night football! Remember the deep pass that Darrell Jackson dropped? Remember Alex's 30+ yard scramble on the final game winning drive? Remember the game winning end-around by Arnaz Battle? That was a great game for Alex! I believe he was really beginning to turn the corner.

I 'member....I was like f--kin D-Jack!!!!

I don't member!! He dropped so many passes that they all kind of blend into one big incomplete pass

I was surprised to find out that Battle led the team in drops that year,I would have bet money it would have been D-Drop.

Wow I didn't know that, always thought of him as a very reliable receiver. It also seems its not looking good for him this year.

Yeah man,it blew my mind too.The year before he was one of the surest handed in the biz,guess D-drop was contagious.

Or could it be that our WR coach isn't doing his job?? Did I just take a shot at the great Jerry Sullivan!!

From Lynch..

Quote:
In the first round of team drills, I timed the two quarterbacks in getting rid of the ball. On his three throws, Smith took 3.5, 4, and 4 seconds to get the ball out. Hill went 2, 1.5, 1.5 and 2 seconds on his four throws.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/ninerinsider/detail?blogid=45&entry_id=45069#ixzz0NSKJgfNt

Hmm, this is a little troubling. Smith's taking almost DOUBLE the time to get rid of the ball.

The only explanation or reason for this would be Smith is throwing deeper passes therefore they naturally take longer to get rid of.

I want to see the timing of passes from BOTH QBs on short AND long passes.

If Smith is taking 3-4 seconds to get rid of the ball on a little dink and dunk passes then forget it.

Quote:
On not focusing as much on fundamentals early on in his career:

“I would agree with that in the sense that, and I hate saying this because it’s not an excuse, but when you have some of that turnover on offense, the priority turns to learning that playbook as opposed to fundamentals, and that falls on me as well. I think at points in my past, yes I’ve really strayed away from that. I’ve focused on the playbook more than my fundamentals, and both are equally as important and this year I think I’ve done a much better job with Coach [Mike] Johnson and Jimmy [Raye] of walking that line. I’ve really been working hard on fundamentals, my footwork in the pocket, as well as in the playbook because they are both really vital to being a good quarterback.”On whether the quarterbacks coach is focusing on the fundamentals:

“He is really good with it. It’s the most work I’ve really got, as far as pocket stuff, my feet, it’s the best I’ve felt with it.”

On what he feels he needs to prove this season:

“I think it’s playing at a high level consistently, that’s it. You can’t be showing glimpses of it, the ups and downs, and the roller coaster of it. Not to say there isn’t going to be bad plays and mistakes. Playing at a high level consistently, playing fast, consistently, that’s what it is going to be about.”

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/49ers/2009/08/06/49ers-qbs-hill-smith-face-the-press/

Interesting stuff.

[ Edited by LambdaChi49 on Aug 6, 2009 at 18:30:07 ]

Originally posted by LambdaChi49:
From Lynch..

Quote:
In the first round of team drills, I timed the two quarterbacks in getting rid of the ball. On his three throws, Smith took 3.5, 4, and 4 seconds to get the ball out. Hill went 2, 1.5, 1.5 and 2 seconds on his four throws.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/ninerinsider/detail?blogid=45&entry_id=45069#ixzz0NSKJgfNt

Hmm, this is a little troubling. Smith's taking almost DOUBLE the time to get rid of the ball.

The only explanation or reason for this would be Smith is throwing deeper passes therefore they naturally take longer to get rid of.

I want to see the timing of passes from BOTH QBs on short AND long passes.

If Smith is taking 3-4 seconds to get rid of the ball on a little dink and dunk passes then forget it.

I think you were correct with the first option. Most of Smith's highlights in camp have all been long passes. I don't think I have heard anything about Hill connecting on a deep throw. I am sure that he has but it just isn't being written about.

Originally posted by backontop:

Originally posted by LambdaChi49:
From Lynch..

Quote:
In the first round of team drills, I timed the two quarterbacks in getting rid of the ball. On his three throws, Smith took 3.5, 4, and 4 seconds to get the ball out. Hill went 2, 1.5, 1.5 and 2 seconds on his four throws.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/ninerinsider/detail?blogid=45&entry_id=45069#ixzz0NSKJgfNt

Hmm, this is a little troubling. Smith's taking almost DOUBLE the time to get rid of the ball.

The only explanation or reason for this would be Smith is throwing deeper passes therefore they naturally take longer to get rid of.

I want to see the timing of passes from BOTH QBs on short AND long passes.

If Smith is taking 3-4 seconds to get rid of the ball on a little dink and dunk passes then forget it.

I think you were correct with the first option. Most of Smith's highlights in camp have all been long passes. I don't think I have heard anything about Hill connecting on a deep throw. I am sure that he has but it just isn't being written about.

yeah....but you would think Lynch would have mentioned that.....I'm sure he would have because that would be an obvious explanation...... I wonder if others have timed the 2 QBs in practice......but I do know for a fact that, that is one of things Hill does best....and he prides himself on it.....getting rid of the ball fast...

I believe Hill brought up a point awhile back, that if someone timed how long it took him to run a play, compared to other "strong armed" QBs.....that it would be similar or to his favor....because he reads defenses pretty fast and gets rid of the ball so quick....and of course accurate and throws catchable soft passes......which all together results in making our WRs and overall offense look better....


its just funny thinking way back when Hill was first starting to play for us.... he would throw a pass and I'd be like OMG someone is going to pick it....because it looked like it was floating......but you would see no one there but a WR.....and I'd be like WTF...did the Defense F'up.....phew..that was close.........OMG HE'S AT IT AGAIN!!!!

but I started to get used to accepting that Hill knows what he is doing.....sure he got nervous playing in front of his Family in that Rams game.....and sure some mistakes in that Cards game.....but I'm fully comfortable now when I see those soft looking passes go over the middle

[ Edited by Afrikan on Aug 6, 2009 at 18:55:24 ]