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Originally posted by Joecool:
I still need to wait to see if Smith can do this when he's not perfectly set...you know...the way QBs throw 90% of the time in real games. Throws are rushed, throws are made off balance, etc.,...from the past, if Smith doesn't get a proper set, his accuracy blows.
Originally posted by abowers1984:Originally posted by Jersey9er:
I dont know it´s still even but once again play of the day, smith found bruce this time downfield for an 45 yd bomb for a TD.
In my opinion both men are about even so far in training camp. seems like hill has beat that gamer mentality and doing good things, and smith has showed no holding back on doing what he does best in stretching the field with the long throws.
This is just training camp and it doesnt matter if they both go perfect for every pass thrown, it does come down to how they do in pre-season games. However, if smith translates these same long throws in an actual game then it´s my opinion to those that like it or not that they will go with smith, because hill hasnt done any more than he can already do, and smith brings that element of being to stretch the field more often with precision and a tight spiral, as well as another aspect he has improved on, which is getting the ball out when there´s blown coverage, or even tight for that matter. Earlier Sing, chewed out Davis for a ball that smith threw that sing said he should of caught.
I dont know about you, but this is the first time im actually excited about a real competition.
You werent intrigued by last year's competition???
ooh oooh ha ha
Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by Joecool:
I still need to wait to see if Smith can do this when he's not perfectly set...you know...the way QBs throw 90% of the time in real games. Throws are rushed, throws are made off balance, etc.,...from the past, if Smith doesn't get a proper set, his accuracy blows.
Watching Hill, it seems that he almost never sets his feet or steps into his throws when he passes. Which could also be a cause for floating passes or lack of zip on passes.
Originally posted by Joecool:Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by Joecool:
I still need to wait to see if Smith can do this when he's not perfectly set...you know...the way QBs throw 90% of the time in real games. Throws are rushed, throws are made off balance, etc.,...from the past, if Smith doesn't get a proper set, his accuracy blows.
Watching Hill, it seems that he almost never sets his feet or steps into his throws when he passes. Which could also be a cause for floating passes or lack of zip on passes.
Yes but most of the time, the ball gets where it needs to be.
Originally posted by Jersey9er:Originally posted by Joecool:Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by Joecool:
I still need to wait to see if Smith can do this when he's not perfectly set...you know...the way QBs throw 90% of the time in real games. Throws are rushed, throws are made off balance, etc.,...from the past, if Smith doesn't get a proper set, his accuracy blows.
Watching Hill, it seems that he almost never sets his feet or steps into his throws when he passes. Which could also be a cause for floating passes or lack of zip on passes.
Yes but most of the time, the ball gets where it needs to be.
Come on cool brotha, we all know your a big hill supporter, but can´t you give the kid some type of credit?
Originally posted by Joecool:Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by Joecool:
I still need to wait to see if Smith can do this when he's not perfectly set...you know...the way QBs throw 90% of the time in real games. Throws are rushed, throws are made off balance, etc.,...from the past, if Smith doesn't get a proper set, his accuracy blows.
Watching Hill, it seems that he almost never sets his feet or steps into his throws when he passes. Which could also be a cause for floating passes or lack of zip on passes.
Yes but most of the time, the ball gets where it needs to be.
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QUARTERBACK DUEL: Could this contest play out just the way it did during organized team activity practices? Over those workouts, Hill looked better in the early part of the spring. Then Alex Smith gradually took hold and finished up as the superior player. Early in camp, Hill has the lead in my view. He's getting rid of the ball fast, reading the defense quickly, and leading his receivers well.
However, Smith is excelling with the deep passing game. He did so Tuesday with a 40-yard spiral that hit Isaac Bruce in stride, a pass so pretty it would bring tears to your eyes. Smith said he just couldn't make that throw last summer. However, on the short and medium passes, Smith frequently shows a halting insecurity. Even on seven-on-seven drills, which are drills without a pass rush, Smith often takes a long time finding a receiver. You can almost see him straining through his progressions. Hill also throws a far more catchable ball, probably because he doesn't throw it nearly as hard. On Tuesday morning, Vernon Davis, Glen Coffee and Delanie Walker all made one-handed grabs off of Hill's throws.
Originally posted by KowboyKiller:
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/ninerinsider/detail?blogid=45&entry_id=44871
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QUARTERBACK DUEL: Could this contest play out just the way it did during organized team activity practices? Over those workouts, Hill looked better in the early part of the spring. Then Alex Smith gradually took hold and finished up as the superior player. Early in camp, Hill has the lead in my view. He's getting rid of the ball fast, reading the defense quickly, and leading his receivers well.
However, Smith is excelling with the deep passing game. He did so Tuesday with a 40-yard spiral that hit Isaac Bruce in stride, a pass so pretty it would bring tears to your eyes. Smith said he just couldn't make that throw last summer. However, on the short and medium passes, Smith frequently shows a halting insecurity. Even on seven-on-seven drills, which are drills without a pass rush, Smith often takes a long time finding a receiver. You can almost see him straining through his progressions. Hill also throws a far more catchable ball, probably because he doesn't throw it nearly as hard. On Tuesday morning, Vernon Davis, Glen Coffee and Delanie Walker all made one-handed grabs off of Hill's throws.
Originally posted by KowboyKiller:
Uh-oh...
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/ninerinsider/detail?blogid=45&entry_id=44871
Quote:
QUARTERBACK DUEL: Could this contest play out just the way it did during organized team activity practices? Over those workouts, Hill looked better in the early part of the spring. Then Alex Smith gradually took hold and finished up as the superior player. Early in camp, Hill has the lead in my view. He's getting rid of the ball fast, reading the defense quickly, and leading his receivers well.
However, Smith is excelling with the deep passing game. He did so Tuesday with a 40-yard spiral that hit Isaac Bruce in stride, a pass so pretty it would bring tears to your eyes. Smith said he just couldn't make that throw last summer. However, on the short and medium passes, Smith frequently shows a halting insecurity. Even on seven-on-seven drills, which are drills without a pass rush, Smith often takes a long time finding a receiver. You can almost see him straining through his progressions. Hill also throws a far more catchable ball, probably because he doesn't throw it nearly as hard. On Tuesday morning, Vernon Davis, Glen Coffee and Delanie Walker all made one-handed grabs off of Hill's throws.
Originally posted by KowboyKiller:
Uh-oh...
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/ninerinsider/detail?blogid=45&entry_id=44871
Quote:
QUARTERBACK DUEL: Could this contest play out just the way it did during organized team activity practices? Over those workouts, Hill looked better in the early part of the spring. Then Alex Smith gradually took hold and finished up as the superior player. Early in camp, Hill has the lead in my view. He's getting rid of the ball fast, reading the defense quickly, and leading his receivers well.
However, Smith is excelling with the deep passing game. He did so Tuesday with a 40-yard spiral that hit Isaac Bruce in stride, a pass so pretty it would bring tears to your eyes. Smith said he just couldn't make that throw last summer. However, on the short and medium passes, Smith frequently shows a halting insecurity. Even on seven-on-seven drills, which are drills without a pass rush, Smith often takes a long time finding a receiver. You can almost see him straining through his progressions. Hill also throws a far more catchable ball, probably because he doesn't throw it nearly as hard. On Tuesday morning, Vernon Davis, Glen Coffee and Delanie Walker all made one-handed grabs off of Hill's throws.
Originally posted by KowboyKiller:
Uh-oh...
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/ninerinsider/detail?blogid=45&entry_id=44871
Quote:
QUARTERBACK DUEL: Could this contest play out just the way it did during organized team activity practices? Over those workouts, Hill looked better in the early part of the spring. Then Alex Smith gradually took hold and finished up as the superior player. Early in camp, Hill has the lead in my view. He's getting rid of the ball fast, reading the defense quickly, and leading his receivers well.
However, Smith is excelling with the deep passing game. He did so Tuesday with a 40-yard spiral that hit Isaac Bruce in stride, a pass so pretty it would bring tears to your eyes. Smith said he just couldn't make that throw last summer. However, on the short and medium passes, Smith frequently shows a halting insecurity. Even on seven-on-seven drills, which are drills without a pass rush, Smith often takes a long time finding a receiver. You can almost see him straining through his progressions. Hill also throws a far more catchable ball, probably because he doesn't throw it nearly as hard. On Tuesday morning, Vernon Davis, Glen Coffee and Delanie Walker all made one-handed grabs off of Hill's throws.
Originally posted by LambdaChi49:Originally posted by KowboyKiller:
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/ninerinsider/detail?blogid=45&entry_id=44871
Quote:
QUARTERBACK DUEL: Could this contest play out just the way it did during organized team activity practices? Over those workouts, Hill looked better in the early part of the spring. Then Alex Smith gradually took hold and finished up as the superior player. Early in camp, Hill has the lead in my view. He's getting rid of the ball fast, reading the defense quickly, and leading his receivers well.
However, Smith is excelling with the deep passing game. He did so Tuesday with a 40-yard spiral that hit Isaac Bruce in stride, a pass so pretty it would bring tears to your eyes. Smith said he just couldn't make that throw last summer. However, on the short and medium passes, Smith frequently shows a halting insecurity. Even on seven-on-seven drills, which are drills without a pass rush, Smith often takes a long time finding a receiver. You can almost see him straining through his progressions. Hill also throws a far more catchable ball, probably because he doesn't throw it nearly as hard. On Tuesday morning, Vernon Davis, Glen Coffee and Delanie Walker all made one-handed grabs off of Hill's throws.
Hmm that is troubling. Hopefully he gets better with that.
That said, those are some strong words to use though ("straining through progressions, halting insecurity...") etc...wouldnt the Matt's have mentioned something?
