QB Competition

Originally posted by WestCoastNut:
This has probably been covered, but will Hill's inability to go long cause the DB's to gamble and play up so that opposing defenses will be shutting down Hill's short passing game and the running game.

We need to move the chains and I love the short passing game, but it seems to me you have keep at least a strong medium range option to keep the DB's honest and out of your hair.

What say ye?

DId you even watch the games last year? We weren't doing 5 yard drags and 10 yard hitches all day....

Hill might not throw it 60 yards every game, but thats because you don't need to do that to win consistently in the National Football League. He was spot on last year on his mid range game, which is the most important area of the passing game.

Originally posted by indianajim:

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:

Originally posted by WestCoastNut:
This has probably been covered, but will Hill's inability to go long cause the DB's to gamble and play up so that opposing defenses will be shutting down Hill's short passing game and the running game.

We need to move the chains and I love the short passing game, but it seems to me you have keep at least a strong medium range option to keep the DB's honest and out of your hair.

What say ye?

I think that all this talk about Hill's arm strength has been overblow. Sure he isn't going to be throwing 60 yard bombs but i think his arm strength is good enough that it isn't going to significantly impede the playbook.

-9fA

It's not the playbook that's the issue, it's the anticipation of the defense. The only team that got to study up on Hill picked him off three times and lost by one.

Then why didn't Washington's defense shut down Hill?

-9fA

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:

Originally posted by indianajim:

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:

Originally posted by WestCoastNut:
This has probably been covered, but will Hill's inability to go long cause the DB's to gamble and play up so that opposing defenses will be shutting down Hill's short passing game and the running game.

We need to move the chains and I love the short passing game, but it seems to me you have keep at least a strong medium range option to keep the DB's honest and out of your hair.

What say ye?

I think that all this talk about Hill's arm strength has been overblow. Sure he isn't going to be throwing 60 yard bombs but i think his arm strength is good enough that it isn't going to significantly impede the playbook.

-9fA

It's not the playbook that's the issue, it's the anticipation of the defense. The only team that got to study up on Hill picked him off three times and lost by one.

Then why didn't Washington's defense shut down Hill?

-9fA

The redskins feared the niners! We do have frank the tank gore, and the one and only patrick willis!

Lol redskins beat dallas, and dallas creams us, and we beat washinton! Interesting, n yet aggervating I must say

Originally posted by frankie:

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:

Originally posted by indianajim:

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:

Originally posted by WestCoastNut:
This has probably been covered, but will Hill's inability to go long cause the DB's to gamble and play up so that opposing defenses will be shutting down Hill's short passing game and the running game.

We need to move the chains and I love the short passing game, but it seems to me you have keep at least a strong medium range option to keep the DB's honest and out of your hair.

What say ye?

I think that all this talk about Hill's arm strength has been overblow. Sure he isn't going to be throwing 60 yard bombs but i think his arm strength is good enough that it isn't going to significantly impede the playbook.

-9fA

It's not the playbook that's the issue, it's the anticipation of the defense. The only team that got to study up on Hill picked him off three times and lost by one.

Then why didn't Washington's defense shut down Hill?

-9fA

The redskins feared the niners! We do have frank the tank gore, and the one and only patrick willis!

Lol redskins beat dallas, and dallas creams us, and we beat washinton! Interesting, n yet aggervating I must say

So by the Carney Laws of football that makes us the best team in the NFL.

Originally posted by Carney16:

Originally posted by frankie:

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:

Originally posted by indianajim:

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:

Originally posted by WestCoastNut:
This has probably been covered, but will Hill's inability to go long cause the DB's to gamble and play up so that opposing defenses will be shutting down Hill's short passing game and the running game.

We need to move the chains and I love the short passing game, but it seems to me you have keep at least a strong medium range option to keep the DB's honest and out of your hair.

What say ye?

I think that all this talk about Hill's arm strength has been overblow. Sure he isn't going to be throwing 60 yard bombs but i think his arm strength is good enough that it isn't going to significantly impede the playbook.

-9fA

It's not the playbook that's the issue, it's the anticipation of the defense. The only team that got to study up on Hill picked him off three times and lost by one.

Then why didn't Washington's defense shut down Hill?

-9fA

The redskins feared the niners! We do have frank the tank gore, and the one and only patrick willis!

Lol redskins beat dallas, and dallas creams us, and we beat washinton! Interesting, n yet aggervating I must say

So by the Carney Laws of football that makes us the best team in the NFL.

Yup it makes us the niners!
The definition of the greatest football team/franchise/fans! Home of the great patrick willis and frank gore! And many other great legends and players of the most watched sport of our viewing pleasure today!

To bad its only a possible 21 games this season including preseason to superbowl

It seems as though AS is not doing anything special to win the job from Hill just yet. I think Hilll is still the starter. AS is showing good things, but I do not believe the organization is going to give him the job, unless he really surpasses Hill in the preseason games.

I am kind of curious to see how they divide the time in the preseason games. Will they each get a half? Quarter? While the competition is great and all, I would also like to see Davis get some reps...

Originally posted by SJniner7:
It seems as though AS is not doing anything special to win the job from Hill just yet. I think Hilll is still the starter. AS is showing good things, but I do not believe the organization is going to give him the job, unless he really surpasses Hill in the preseason games.

I am kind of curious to see how they divide the time in the preseason games. Will they each get a half? Quarter? While the competition is great and all, I would also like to see Davis get some reps...

I am also curious to see how they split the reps! Kinda glad there is no jto type here to just get handed the job.

Originally posted by SJniner7:
It seems as though AS is not doing anything special to win the job from Hill just yet. I think Hilll is still the starter. AS is showing good things, but I do not believe the organization is going to give him the job, unless he really surpasses Hill in the preseason games.

I am kind of curious to see how they divide the time in the preseason games. Will they each get a half? Quarter? While the competition is great and all, I would also like to see Davis get some reps...

I don't think Singletary or Raye are really looking for how they play in practice as it seems like they are evenly matched in different ways. It seems to me they will be looking at how they make their teammates play and perform in practice (Leadership) more than anything. I think if one stands out to be Leading his teammates, then he gets the job. Sooner or later, they will be able to notice who should be the starter by looking at how the Linemen, Receivers, and Backs react to either of the two, Hill or Smith.

Originally posted by niner4life21:

DId you even watch the games last year? We weren't doing 5 yard drags and 10 yard hitches all day....

Hill might not throw it 60 yards every game, but thats because you don't need to do that to win consistently in the National Football League. He was spot on last year on his mid range game, which is the most important area of the passing game.

It's called Mike Martz and his timing patterns.

'aight boyz, lets see what ya got today.

I dont know it´s still even but once again play of the day, smith found bruce this time downfield for an 45 yd bomb for a TD.

In my opinion both men are about even so far in training camp. seems like hill has beat that gamer mentality and doing good things, and smith has showed no holding back on doing what he does best in stretching the field with the long throws.

This is just training camp and it doesnt matter if they both go perfect for every pass thrown, it does come down to how they do in pre-season games. However, if smith translates these same long throws in an actual game then it´s my opinion to those that like it or not that they will go with smith, because hill hasnt done any more than he can already do, and smith brings that element of being to stretch the field more often with precision and a tight spiral, as well as another aspect he has improved on, which is getting the ball out when there´s blown coverage, or even tight for that matter. Earlier Sing, chewed out Davis for a ball that smith threw that sing said he should of caught.

I dont know about you, but this is the first time im actually excited about a real competition.

I still need to wait to see if Smith can do this when he's not perfectly set...you know...the way QBs throw 90% of the time in real games. Throws are rushed, throws are made off balance, etc.,...from the past, if Smith doesn't get a proper set, his accuracy blows.

Originally posted by Jersey9er:
I dont know it´s still even but once again play of the day, smith found bruce this time downfield for an 45 yd bomb for a TD.

In my opinion both men are about even so far in training camp. seems like hill has beat that gamer mentality and doing good things, and smith has showed no holding back on doing what he does best in stretching the field with the long throws.

This is just training camp and it doesnt matter if they both go perfect for every pass thrown, it does come down to how they do in pre-season games. However, if smith translates these same long throws in an actual game then it´s my opinion to those that like it or not that they will go with smith, because hill hasnt done any more than he can already do, and smith brings that element of being to stretch the field more often with precision and a tight spiral, as well as another aspect he has improved on, which is getting the ball out when there´s blown coverage, or even tight for that matter. Earlier Sing, chewed out Davis for a ball that smith threw that sing said he should of caught.

I dont know about you, but this is the first time im actually excited about a real competition.

You werent intrigued by last year's competition???

Originally posted by abowers1984:

Originally posted by Jersey9er:
I dont know it´s still even but once again play of the day, smith found bruce this time downfield for an 45 yd bomb for a TD.

In my opinion both men are about even so far in training camp. seems like hill has beat that gamer mentality and doing good things, and smith has showed no holding back on doing what he does best in stretching the field with the long throws.

This is just training camp and it doesnt matter if they both go perfect for every pass thrown, it does come down to how they do in pre-season games. However, if smith translates these same long throws in an actual game then it´s my opinion to those that like it or not that they will go with smith, because hill hasnt done any more than he can already do, and smith brings that element of being to stretch the field more often with precision and a tight spiral, as well as another aspect he has improved on, which is getting the ball out when there´s blown coverage, or even tight for that matter. Earlier Sing, chewed out Davis for a ball that smith threw that sing said he should of caught.

I dont know about you, but this is the first time im actually excited about a real competition.

You werent intrigued by last year's competition???

bowers what's up man where you been?

Originally posted by abowers1984:

Originally posted by Jersey9er:
I dont know it´s still even but once again play of the day, smith found bruce this time downfield for an 45 yd bomb for a TD.

In my opinion both men are about even so far in training camp. seems like hill has beat that gamer mentality and doing good things, and smith has showed no holding back on doing what he does best in stretching the field with the long throws.

This is just training camp and it doesnt matter if they both go perfect for every pass thrown, it does come down to how they do in pre-season games. However, if smith translates these same long throws in an actual game then it´s my opinion to those that like it or not that they will go with smith, because hill hasnt done any more than he can already do, and smith brings that element of being to stretch the field more often with precision and a tight spiral, as well as another aspect he has improved on, which is getting the ball out when there´s blown coverage, or even tight for that matter. Earlier Sing, chewed out Davis for a ball that smith threw that sing said he should of caught.

I dont know about you, but this is the first time im actually excited about a real competition.

You werent intrigued by last year's competition???

LMAO, of course i was, lol. Im waiting for Sing to wait till first preseason game and say you know what guys Huard is gonna start.