QB Competition

Originally posted by niner4life21:

Originally posted by oldman9er:
interesting deflection...

epic fail

Dude, are you kidding me? Are you seriously gonna defend Smith's epic failures in 2006 with "kwame harris"? I understand that Harris was caught for holding quite a few times, but he wasn't a cause for our failures. Go back and you will see that none of his big "holds" were in close games that we lost.....

The epic fail is you not understanding football enough to understand that it is a team sport.Smith isn't the biggest reason the 06 team wasn't good,it starts with the oline that couldn't pass block,and crappy receivers didn't help much either.To try to blame one guy for that mess is just plain ignorant.I am not saying Smith didn't play his part,but you act like it was all on him,which is ignoring the facts.

Originally posted by jwildz999:
Alex didn't do well today imo. Most his caught passes were the receiver doing a great job catching a bad pass. He threw high on a lot and under on his 2 deep passes.

Hill looked better with the ball hitting the guys in stride. His deep pass was lacking but his short and mid game looked good. Him and david seem to have a good connection going, and him and staley were hanging out like best friend after practice.

Davis looked like he had good arm power on his 2 or 3 throws. Didn't catch who he threw too!

All in all. Hill #1, smith #2, davis and #14 too little to call.

Good job all around

By David, I'm guessing you mean Davis?

Originally posted by niner4life21:

Originally posted by oldman9er:
interesting deflection...

epic fail

Dude, are you kidding me? Are you seriously gonna defend Smith's epic failures in 2006 with "kwame harris"? I understand that Harris was caught for holding quite a few times, but he wasn't a cause for our failures. Go back and you will see that none of his big "holds" were in close games that we lost.....

16-16 tds-int, 3000 yards, added 3 W's to the win column from the year before. That's not an epic fail in any way.

Originally posted by TheGoldStandard:

Originally posted by niner4life21:

Originally posted by oldman9er:
interesting deflection...

epic fail

Dude, are you kidding me? Are you seriously gonna defend Smith's epic failures in 2006 with "kwame harris"? I understand that Harris was caught for holding quite a few times, but he wasn't a cause for our failures. Go back and you will see that none of his big "holds" were in close games that we lost.....

16-16 tds-int, 3000 yards, added 3 W's to the win column from the year before. That's not an epic fail in any way.

Yeah if you're gonna call that an epic fail, you were setting yourself up for disappointment from the get go.

-9fA

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:

Originally posted by TheGoldStandard:

Originally posted by niner4life21:

Originally posted by oldman9er:
interesting deflection...

epic fail

Dude, are you kidding me? Are you seriously gonna defend Smith's epic failures in 2006 with "kwame harris"? I understand that Harris was caught for holding quite a few times, but he wasn't a cause for our failures. Go back and you will see that none of his big "holds" were in close games that we lost.....

16-16 tds-int, 3000 yards, added 3 W's to the win column from the year before. That's not an epic fail in any way.

Yeah if you're gonna call that an epic fail, you were setting yourself up for disappointment from the get go.

-9fA

Ummm.....I didn't say that Smith's performance in 2006 was an "epic fail".

The epic fail comment came from old dude replying to my comment in our debate about kwame harris being a big part of our failures in 2006...

Originally posted by niner4life21:

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:

Originally posted by TheGoldStandard:

Originally posted by niner4life21:

Originally posted by oldman9er:
interesting deflection...

epic fail

Dude, are you kidding me? Are you seriously gonna defend [b]Smith's epic failures[/b] in 2006 with "kwame harris"? I understand that Harris was caught for holding quite a few times, but he wasn't a cause for our failures. Go back and you will see that none of his big "holds" were in close games that we lost.....

16-16 tds-int, 3000 yards, added 3 W's to the win column from the year before. That's not an epic fail in any way.

Yeah if you're gonna call that an epic fail, you were setting yourself up for disappointment from the get go.

-9fA

Ummm.....I didn't say that Smith's performance in 2006 was an "epic fail".

The epic fail comment came from old dude replying to my comment in our debate about kwame harris being a big part of our failures in 2006...

"Smith's epic failures..."

Can you see how that could be misinterpreted? If you had another meaning it was unclear.

Originally posted by TheGoldStandard:

Originally posted by niner4life21:

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:

Originally posted by TheGoldStandard:

Originally posted by niner4life21:

Originally posted by oldman9er:
interesting deflection...

epic fail

Dude, are you kidding me? Are you seriously gonna defend [b]Smith's epic failures[/b] in 2006 with "kwame harris"? I understand that Harris was caught for holding quite a few times, but he wasn't a cause for our failures. Go back and you will see that none of his big "holds" were in close games that we lost.....

16-16 tds-int, 3000 yards, added 3 W's to the win column from the year before. That's not an epic fail in any way.

Yeah if you're gonna call that an epic fail, you were setting yourself up for disappointment from the get go.

-9fA

Ummm.....I didn't say that Smith's performance in 2006 was an "epic fail".

The epic fail comment came from old dude replying to my comment in our debate about kwame harris being a big part of our failures in 2006...

"Smith's epic failures..."

Can you see how that could be misinterpreted? If you had another meaning it was unclear.

Oh s**t my bad. I guess I did say that......And i don't take it back...


Its a bit late so I probably forgot...

Well both Matt´s have seemed to agree that the one handed catch to josh morgan was the highlight of the offense of training camp so far.

One thing that is noticed is that alex has been trying to do what norv said he used to do best and that was the long ball. everytime anyone comments on what hill has done as a qb i notice, and it´s just a notice, that they always put the word short pass on hill´s completions.

Both men went 5-8 on sundays practice, and as i said earlier, in my opinion, if hill and smith both continue to play the same way in practice then smith would have the edge being able to stretch the field more.

someone also mentioned about him hitting the receiver in stride which he seemed to do on those two bombs to jones that got him praise after the boos in the morning on saturday, as well as when he hit davis for the past two days into tight coverage, and the bomb to morgan on sunday.

However, while all this in regards to smith and hill, it´s only training camp, like sing said, once both men are in the preseason game facing another teams defense, then you can completely evaluate both and the starter will emerge himself.

Either way i will say neither man seems to be running away so far, and are bringing out the best in one another in my opinion.

We´ll see how it rounds up at todays practice:)

Originally posted by niner4life21:

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:

Originally posted by TheGoldStandard:

Originally posted by niner4life21:

Originally posted by oldman9er:
interesting deflection...

epic fail

Dude, are you kidding me? Are you seriously gonna defend Smith's epic failures in 2006 with "kwame harris"? I understand that Harris was caught for holding quite a few times, but he wasn't a cause for our failures. Go back and you will see that none of his big "holds" were in close games that we lost.....

16-16 tds-int, 3000 yards, added 3 W's to the win column from the year before. That's not an epic fail in any way.

Yeah if you're gonna call that an epic fail, you were setting yourself up for disappointment from the get go.

-9fA

Ummm.....I didn't say that Smith's performance in 2006 was an "epic fail".

The epic fail comment came from old dude replying to my comment in our debate about kwame harris being a big part of our failures in 2006...

Kwame pretty much costed us the first game at Arizona (holding on an Antonio Bryant TD-catch), so that's one W right there that would have put us at 8-8.

What else from that year? How about...

• Vernon Davis missing half the season due to injury?
• A-Bryant getting suspended for the final two games of the season?
• Nolan kicking a FG in St. Louis on 4th and an inch?
• Mo Hicks fumbling problem?
• A defense featuring Sammy Davis at CB?

Originally posted by NickSh49:

Originally posted by niner4life21:

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:

Originally posted by TheGoldStandard:

Originally posted by niner4life21:

Originally posted by oldman9er:
interesting deflection...

epic fail

Dude, are you kidding me? Are you seriously gonna defend Smith's epic failures in 2006 with "kwame harris"? I understand that Harris was caught for holding quite a few times, but he wasn't a cause for our failures. Go back and you will see that none of his big "holds" were in close games that we lost.....

16-16 tds-int, 3000 yards, added 3 W's to the win column from the year before. That's not an epic fail in any way.

Yeah if you're gonna call that an epic fail, you were setting yourself up for disappointment from the get go.

-9fA

Ummm.....I didn't say that Smith's performance in 2006 was an "epic fail".

The epic fail comment came from old dude replying to my comment in our debate about kwame harris being a big part of our failures in 2006...

Kwame pretty much costed us the first game at Arizona (holding on an Antonio Bryant TD-catch), so that's one W right there that would have put us at 8-8.

What else from that year? How about...

• Vernon Davis missing half the season due to injury?
• A-Bryant getting suspended for the final two games of the season?
• Nolan kicking a FG in St. Louis on 4th and an inch?
• Mo Hicks fumbling problem?
• A defense featuring Sammy Davis at CB?

Also dont forget, i dont remember which matt said it, but they pointed out, we also had one of, if not the highest number of drops in the league that year as well.

Originally posted by NickSh49:

Originally posted by niner4life21:

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:

Originally posted by TheGoldStandard:

Originally posted by niner4life21:

Originally posted by oldman9er:
interesting deflection...

epic fail

Dude, are you kidding me? Are you seriously gonna defend Smith's epic failures in 2006 with "kwame harris"? I understand that Harris was caught for holding quite a few times, but he wasn't a cause for our failures. Go back and you will see that none of his big "holds" were in close games that we lost.....

16-16 tds-int, 3000 yards, added 3 W's to the win column from the year before. That's not an epic fail in any way.

Yeah if you're gonna call that an epic fail, you were setting yourself up for disappointment from the get go.

-9fA

Ummm.....I didn't say that Smith's performance in 2006 was an "epic fail".

The epic fail comment came from old dude replying to my comment in our debate about kwame harris being a big part of our failures in 2006...

Kwame pretty much costed us the first game at Arizona (holding on an Antonio Bryant TD-catch), so that's one W right there that would have put us at 8-8.

What else from that year? How about...

• Vernon Davis missing half the season due to injury?
• A-Bryant getting suspended for the final two games of the season?
• Nolan kicking a FG in St. Louis on 4th and an inch?
• Mo Hicks fumbling problem?
• A defense featuring Sammy Davis at CB?

Ahhh that td pass to Bryant was nice. 52 yard td pass negated by a holding call. Smith would have had a 340 yard 2 td 0 int day but most importantly we would have won.

Originally posted by LambdaChi49:

Originally posted by NickSh49:

Kwame pretty much costed us the first game at Arizona (holding on an Antonio Bryant TD-catch), so that's one W right there that would have put us at 8-8.

What else from that year? How about...

• Vernon Davis missing half the season due to injury?
• A-Bryant getting suspended for the final two games of the season?
• Nolan kicking a FG in St. Louis on 4th and an inch?
• Mo Hicks fumbling problem?
• A defense featuring Sammy Davis at CB?

Ahhh that td pass to Bryant was nice. 52 yard td pass negated by a holding call. Smith would have had a 340 yard 2 td 0 int day but most importantly we would have won.

Kwame Harris.... reason #1 for horrible line play.

Originally posted by jwildz999:
Alex didn't do well today imo. Most his caught passes were the receiver doing a great job catching a bad pass. He threw high on a lot and under on his 2 deep passes.

Hill looked better with the ball hitting the guys in stride. His deep pass was lacking but his short and mid game looked good. Him and david seem to have a good connection going, and him and staley were hanging out like best friend after practice.

Davis looked like he had good arm power on his 2 or 3 throws. Didn't catch who he threw too!

All in all. Hill #1, smith #2, davis and #14 too little to call.

Good job all around

I've been watching some videos of the QBs and I'm seeing Hill throw off target to guys running hook route. It's pretty hard to throw off target to a dude standing still.

But you're probably right about Smith's throws being a little high. But as long as they don't have to jump, it's not a bad throw. Just not as good as it could be. Plus a lot I'm seeing he's throwing over the coverage, I haven't seen too many crossing patterns or that sort of thing. So I can't speak to those plays.

Here's a quote from Crumpacker's latest. I love this:

Quote:
"If you're not going to be ready for the ups and downs of this business, you shouldn't be out here," Smith said a day later, after a single afternoon practice. "I'm not happy with what I've done here the last four years. I imagine there are a lot of fans that aren't happy, too. I agree with coach (Mike) Singletary. It's good practice (to be booed). You have to be mentally tough."

After two operations to repair his right shoulder, there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with Smith's throwing arm. He went long a couple times on Sunday and was pleased.

"There are different types of arm strength," he said. "When you're talking about deep throws, my arm hasn't felt good enough to make those throws until now. You have to set your feet and throw from your feet to your legs, transfer it to your hips, and it all comes through your shoulder. When it's as strong as it is now, I feel good about stepping into those throws."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/03/SPAB1931MB.DTL&feed=rss.49ers#ixzz0N81XnyMv

Originally posted by indianajim:
Here's a quote from Crumpacker's latest. I love this:

Quote:
"If you're not going to be ready for the ups and downs of this business, you shouldn't be out here," Smith said a day later, after a single afternoon practice. "I'm not happy with what I've done here the last four years. I imagine there are a lot of fans that aren't happy, too. I agree with coach (Mike) Singletary. It's good practice (to be booed). You have to be mentally tough."

After two operations to repair his right shoulder, there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with Smith's throwing arm. He went long a couple times on Sunday and was pleased.

"There are different types of arm strength," he said. "When you're talking about deep throws, my arm hasn't felt good enough to make those throws until now. You have to set your feet and throw from your feet to your legs, transfer it to your hips, and it all comes through your shoulder. When it's as strong as it is now, I feel good about stepping into those throws."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/03/SPAB1931MB.DTL&feed=rss.49ers#ixzz0N81XnyMv

yeah i was just gonna post this brotha. for all those that talk about the kid and his throws being late and all that hating. seems once again that the kid shut up a few critics and knows exactly what to do to achieve the right results.

and so far a 25 yard bomb, a 50yd td bomb, and another bomb to morgan. And as all those that wrote about the throws, they were nice, accurately thrown balls with zip.

i hope he keeps it up:)