Pittsburgh's WR Trend

Originally posted by ziggy_gonna_rock:
I heard Greenburgs take the other day that the Bears should do whatever it takes to trade for Mike Tomlin to develop the 'perfect' culture.
Does anyone find it odd that every f**king WR that the Steelers draft turns into a nutcase? First, it was Antonio Brown, then Claypool, then Diontae Johnson, and now Pickens seems to have some issues. Can you really call Tomlin a great leader when he cant contain all the drama?

Have you ever worked with a crazy person?

Sounds like he is one

Originally posted by ziggy_gonna_rock:
I heard Greenburgs take the other day that the Bears should do whatever it takes to trade for Mike Tomlin to develop the 'perfect' culture.
Does anyone find it odd that every f**king WR that the Steelers draft turns into a nutcase? First, it was Antonio Brown, then Claypool, then Diontae Johnson, and now Pickens seems to have some issues. Can you really call Tomlin a great leader when he cant contain all the drama?

Radios stations around here is kind of on same page as you. They actually nailed it the past 12 or so months. Their claim is the national media likes Tomlin a whole lot more than the locals. Something along the lines of they eat up his word salad he likes to throw around.

Alot of locals actually want Tomlin gone. What you posted is part of the reason. Along with no playoff wins in 9 years. They think having a winning record every year but not winning playoff games has them as "high end mediocracy".

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by ziggy_gonna_rock:
I heard Greenburgs take the other day that the Bears should do whatever it takes to trade for Mike Tomlin to develop the 'perfect' culture.
Does anyone find it odd that every f**king WR that the Steelers draft turns into a nutcase? First, it was Antonio Brown, then Claypool, then Diontae Johnson, and now Pickens seems to have some issues. Can you really call Tomlin a great leader when he cant contain all the drama?

Radios stations around here is kind of on same page as you. They actually nailed it the past 12 or so months. Their claim is the national media likes Tomlin a whole lot more than the locals. Something along the lines of they eat up his word salad he likes to throw around.

Alot of locals actually want Tomlin gone. What you posted is part of the reason. Along with no playoff wins in 9 years. They think having a winning record every year but not winning playoff games has them as "high end mediocracy".

It's a fair critique, but then you have to analyze the last 9 years. An aging Big Ben, Kenny Pickett, Mason Rudolph,and Mitch Trubisky. Which one of these All Pros was Tomlin supposed to make a playoff run with? Furthermore he took Justin Fields, who is considered a bust, and Russell Wilson, who people thought was washed, and got a 10 win season and at least one playoff appearances.

Many coaches muster 4 to 6 win seasons with that kind of QB talent. Simply looking at wins and Super Bowls is too basic to analyze all the variables involved in critiquing a coach. Even his AFC North counterpart, the great John Harbaugh had a losing season once Joe Flacco began to fade. But Baltimore got him Lamar Jackson, before letting the bottom fall out - which is what the Steelers did with Roethlisberger.

To have that opinion, Steelers fans are spoiled and forget how close most teams are to drafting in the top 10.

Originally posted by ziggy_gonna_rock:
I heard Greenburgs take the other day that the Bears should do whatever it takes to trade for Mike Tomlin to develop the 'perfect' culture.
Does anyone find it odd that every f**king WR that the Steelers draft turns into a nutcase? First, it was Antonio Brown, then Claypool, then Diontae Johnson, and now Pickens seems to have some issues. Can you really call Tomlin a great leader when he cant contain all the drama?

Tomlin had AB and Bell at the same time and the world had no clue how crazy they were .

if you ask me , he handles it GREAT

throw Aiyuk over there. Him and Moody are on THE LIST

Originally posted by krizay:
Radios stations around here is kind of on same page as you. They actually nailed it the past 12 or so months. Their claim is the national media likes Tomlin a whole lot more than the locals. Something along the lines of they eat up his word salad he likes to throw around.

Alot of locals actually want Tomlin gone. What you posted is part of the reason. Along with no playoff wins in 9 years. They think having a winning record every year but not winning playoff games has them as "high end mediocracy".

This is the exact take of every Steelers fan that I know. He's good enough to be a couple games above .500 every year and he gets production from guys that flame out everywhere else, but most want to move on.

I wasn't expected that take but it made sense after thinking about it.

Originally posted by ziggy_gonna_rock:
I heard Greenburgs take the other day that the Bears should do whatever it takes to trade for Mike Tomlin to develop the 'perfect' culture.
Does anyone find it odd that every f**king WR that the Steelers draft turns into a nutcase? First, it was Antonio Brown, then Claypool, then Diontae Johnson, and now Pickens seems to have some issues. Can you really call Tomlin a great leader when he cant contain all the drama?

yup a lot of the stuff like not blocking or not even trying with a loose ball on the ground, red flags. some ppl say wide receiveritis is to blame, but we saw this with LeVeon Bell also. i recall that clown saying he was the Steph Curry of the NFL. he felt he was revolutionizing the game, by running slowly or letting his blockers set it up. this is actual stuff he said. then he just sat out a year which no doubt cost him dollars, and he was never the same guy.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
It's a fair critique, but then you have to analyze the last 9 years. An aging Big Ben, Kenny Pickett, Mason Rudolph,and Mitch Trubisky. Which one of these All Pros was Tomlin supposed to make a playoff run with? Furthermore he took Justin Fields, who is considered a bust, and Russell Wilson, who people thought was washed, and got a 10 win season and at least one playoff appearances.

Many coaches muster 4 to 6 win seasons with that kind of QB talent. Simply looking at wins and Super Bowls is too basic to analyze all the variables involved in critiquing a coach. Even his AFC North counterpart, the great John Harbaugh had a losing season once Joe Flacco began to fade. But Baltimore got him Lamar Jackson, before letting the bottom fall out - which is what the Steelers did with Roethlisberger.

To have that opinion, Steelers fans are spoiled and forget how close most teams are to drafting in the top 10.

Tomlin got his boys ready tto play tonight

If he had a legit qb I could agree Who is the gm? Miracle he got them this far b/c this team isn't that talented

Originally posted by lamontb:
If he had a legit qb I could agree Who is the gm? Miracle he got them this far b/c this team isn't that talented

Which is part of the point of the fans. When you're constantly picking 16-22 they can never be in position to get top talent

They only spend 25% of the salary cap on offense. Defensive coach that is spending damn near all their money on defense and only want OCs they want to run and not put the ball in harns way.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by lamontb:
If he had a legit qb I could agree Who is the gm? Miracle he got them this far b/c this team isn't that talented

Which is part of the point of the fans. When you're constantly picking 16-22 they can never be in position to get top talent

They only spend 25% of the salary cap on offense. Defensive coach that is spending damn near all their money on defense and only want OCs they want to run and not put the ball in harns way.

So isn't that more on personnel? At some point you have to push your chips in the middle of the table to get elite talent- particularly at QB. I get why they don't. The risk usually ain't worth it. It's a sucky spot to be in. But you know what's worse? Losing. Losing with no hope. Darkness where you don't know when the sun will rise again. This is where the Steelers are most likely to go by dumping Tomlin and not upgrading at QB.

Check out the Steelers over/under for wins the last 4 seasons. The team has overperformed- yet people think he should be fired.