Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
I definitely saw it. I was one of the very few people here advocating for it and predicting it would happen (once he wasn't traded following sugery). It's not a remotely similar situation to picking up Trey's 5th year option at this point.

Not identical but it taught me that this front office does not just come out and lie to you. They said they value the QB position and that when you have a starting QB you don't just give him away or let him walk without getting nothing in return. This is why that if Trey is what I think he is we will keep him until we can't unless someone pays us what we want for him. Same for Brock. Together they are a relatively cheap playoff QB room compared to other contending teams. We are not gonna not just pick up Trey's option just to get a 3rd round pick when by that time I am willing to wager we could get a lot more for him assuming he ain't already QB1 by then. Trey is an asset that will appreciate in value over time so we will realize that value one way or another and keeping him under our control is one way of realizing said value. Trey can be kept until we have to PAY Brock Purdy

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Not identical but it taught me that this front office does not just come out and lie to you. They said they value the QB position and that when you have a starting QB you don't just give him away or let him walk without getting nothing in return. This is why that if Trey is what I think he is we will keep him until we can't unless someone pays us what we want for him. Same for Brock. Together they are a relatively cheap playoff QB room compared to other contending teams. We are not gonna not just pick up Trey's option just to get a 3rd round pick when by that time I am willing to wager we could get a lot more for him assuming he ain't already QB1 by then. Trey is an asset that will appreciate in value over time so we will realize that value one way or another and keeping him under our control is one way of realizing said value. Trey can be kept until we have to PAY Brock Purdy

The problem with this is the assessment of Lance. He hasn't proven he is even a competent starting QB in the league. He likely needs extended playing time to see if that's even a possibility. He's extremely replaceable currently, especially factoring his high cap number (which would double with his 5th year option). He's currently competing with Sam Darnold for a QB2 job, lol.

Now I could see a scenario where we let his contract expire and we re-sign him for dirt cheap. I think that's at least possible, but highly improbable unless something changes (he proves he can be successful).

This is all without mentioning that we have a SB roster to keep together and improve if possible. 20 million dollars plus on a backup QB, perhaps even a QB3, is a nonstarter.

If he plays elk enough, we can't trade him!? I mean, Purdy being essentially free means we can have the best backup in the league and still have a cheap QB room.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
The problem with this is the assessment of Lance. He hasn't proven he is even a competent starting QB in the league. He likely needs extended playing time to see if that's even a possibility. He's extremely replaceable currently, especially factoring his high cap number (which would double with his 5th year option). He's currently competing with Sam Darnold for a QB2 job, lol.

Now I could see a scenario where we let his contract expire and we re-sign him for dirt cheap. I think that's at least possible, but highly improbable unless something changes (he proves he can be successful).

This is all without mentioning that we have a SB roster to keep together and improve if possible. 20 million dollars plus on a backup QB, perhaps even a QB3, is a nonstarter.

We are just in year three at 23. Why are we even wasting a lot of time on this? This front office has proven to me already that they highly value the position and that they don't just let guys outta here for nothing in return. Right now I am more focused on Brock and Trey and how camp is going and I am glad we have a relatively cheap QB room and a deep roster with good coaching. I ain't too concerned with an option we don't have to decide on until after this year. August is here and we are about to see these boys in some preseason games!

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
We are just in year three at 23. Why are we even wasting a lot of time on this? This front office has proven to me already that they highly value the position and that they don't just let guys outta here for nothing in return. Right now I am more focused on Brock and Trey and how camp is going and I am glad we have a relatively cheap QB room and a deep roster with good coaching. I ain't too concerned with an option we don't have to decide on until after this year. August is here and we are about to see these boys in some preseason games!

Well I'm with you there, but conversation doesn't change anything or hurt anybody.

Originally posted by NinerBuff:
If he plays elk enough, we can't trade him!? I mean, Purdy being essentially free means we can have the best backup in the league and still have a cheap QB room.

Exactly! We already showed that we would pay Jimmy $16M on a restructured deal when we were already paying Trey $6M that same year of something like that. And this was in 2022 so imagine when you account for inflation in 2025? It really ain't nothing we should be up in arms about right now as fans with August here and preseason football

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Well I'm with you there, but conversation doesn't change anything or hurt anybody.

And after what I saw we did with the combination tally of Jimmy and Trey's salary along with the $2M we ate on Sudfelds contract, I aint worried about Trey's money on 2025. There is a LOT of proving to be had between now and decision making time and I am here for it!

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Koldo:
No way in hell we're paying 20M for a QB2 / QB3 fifth-year option.

Absolutely zero chance we pick up that option if he's not starting.

We gave up 3 first round picks and a third round pick to let him walk out the door? This after missing on Mahomes?

If this happens someone has to get fired (KS/JL), no?

It would be on both Lynch and Kyle. Both of them have done much more than enough to offset this mistake.

At the end of the day it is not 3 first round picks. It is one 3rd overall pick. Treating all first round picks as equal value makes no sense whatsoever.

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Koldo:
No way in hell we're paying 20M for a QB2 / QB3 fifth-year option.

Absolutely zero chance we pick up that option if he's not starting.

We gave up 3 first round picks and a third round pick to let him walk out the door? This after missing on Mahomes?

If this happens someone has to get fired (KS/JL), no?

It would be on both Lynch and Kyle. Both of them have done much more than enough to offset this mistake.

At the end of the day it is not 3 first round picks. It is one 3rd overall pick. Treating all first round picks as equal value makes no sense whatsoever.

I think he's just pointing out, that we didn't simply burn 1 year of a first, to acquire. We spent the 2021 1st, the 2022 1st, and the 2023 1st. So that's 3 years of 1s, invested. In one player. It's a lot of draft capital, no matter how you slice it.

Originally posted by NinerBuff:
If he plays elk enough, we can't trade him!? I mean, Purdy being essentially free means we can have the best backup in the league and still have a cheap QB room.

This. And if he continues to improve, we have every reason to keep him next year too, and gamble that he'll eventually maximize his potential.

Today he was the best QB on the field according to the beat writers. Tomorrow he may suck. But, if he continues getting better, the price of getting nothing for him this year is lower than the missed opportunity if he becomes a star for someone else.

If he keeps improving, see how good he can get, and keep him as the backup until such a time that he either takes the starting job or his contract ends.

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If he DOESN'T keep improving, then maybe you move him next year.

But certainly this year we need every QB.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Koldo:
No way in hell we're paying 20M for a QB2 / QB3 fifth-year option.

Absolutely zero chance we pick up that option if he's not starting.

We gave up 3 first round picks and a third round pick to let him walk out the door? This after missing on Mahomes?

If this happens someone has to get fired (KS/JL), no?

It would be on both Lynch and Kyle. Both of them have done much more than enough to offset this mistake.

At the end of the day it is not 3 first round picks. It is one 3rd overall pick. Treating all first round picks as equal value makes no sense whatsoever.

I think he's just pointing out, that we didn't simply burn 1 year of a first, to acquire. We spent the 2021 1st, the 2022 1st, and the 2023 1st. So that's 3 years of 1s, invested. In one player. It's a lot of draft capital, no matter how you slice it.

How many pro-bowl caliber player have this regime acquire? At the end of the day looking at one transaction and ignoring everything else is ridiculous.

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Well what pill is saying is sorta subjective, right? He said the kid will be good - but what does that mean? Like top 15? Top 10? I don't think anyone doubts that Lance will improve and be a good qb in the league.

personally, I just question if he will be that top 6 caliber elite qb in the league. I've always said I see him like dak and I think daks good. Top 8-11 qb depending on the week. I'd be thrilled if he proved me wrong.

Sounds like he had a really good day today. He's doing everything right so far. It's going to be fun! He seems so much more confident and decisive.

I comped Trey at Donovan McNabb the moment he was drafted. I figured a guy like that should do well with Andy Reid or Kyle Shanahan. Thing is Brock showed golden boy traits last year despite his scouting report. I ain't saying Trey will be HOF, but because he has talent and he is working at an elite level he should be a good QB in time. We already know Brock can be damn good because he showed it last year

I really liked Mcnabb and Andy Reid. Only time period that I liked the eagles. Lol I feel like Mcnabb gets a bad wrap but I thought he typically played really well.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
I smell Lance wanting out soon.

He's a draft pick that hasn't earned anything. This is his 3rd season. He's extremely young and making a ton of money.

You've got the kid all wrong. Lance is all in this year.

This year he's kinda screwed but if he doesn't play this season he will be gone after it. The rest is trivial.

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Koldo:
No way in hell we're paying 20M for a QB2 / QB3 fifth-year option.

Absolutely zero chance we pick up that option if he's not starting.

We gave up 3 first round picks and a third round pick to let him walk out the door? This after missing on Mahomes?

If this happens someone has to get fired (KS/JL), no?

It would be on both Lynch and Kyle. Both of them have done much more than enough to offset this mistake.

At the end of the day it is not 3 first round picks. It is one 3rd overall pick. Treating all first round picks as equal value makes no sense whatsoever.

I think he's just pointing out, that we didn't simply burn 1 year of a first, to acquire. We spent the 2021 1st, the 2022 1st, and the 2023 1st. So that's 3 years of 1s, invested. In one player. It's a lot of draft capital, no matter how you slice it.

How many pro-bowl caliber player have this regime acquire? At the end of the day looking at one transaction and ignoring everything else is ridiculous.

Kyle & John have done an excellent job building this team. I think Faithful6 is pointing out that they didn't just use a 3rd overall pick for Trey. They bunched up present and future picks to create a 3rd overall pick but it ultimately cost 3 first round picks and a 3rd rounder.

abovr you said it was only a third overall pick but we had to get that pick somehow and it cost a lot, most in franchise history for one player.

But as a whole, even if the Trey pick doesn't work out, they've done such an excellent job that it doesn't warrant firing them.

even if Brock sucked last year, no one would of faulted them because most 3rd string QBs suck, especially 7th round rookies (aka Skylar Thompson). It was mainly luck but I don't think anyone would of been mad if we lost last season because Trey and Jimmy went down. It's back luck that usually ends in disaster.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Lynch and Shanahan gonna get frost bite on their ass how cold their seats are.

Lol. Even with all of the HOF-type innovative coaches and GMs lined up to come here?