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Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:


would never happen Lol this trade wouldn't go down for even one of those three

That's what they turned our picks used to get the pick for Trey into, not a trade proposal...

I think he's saying that you couldn't trade for one of those players straight up if you wanted to.

At least that's how I read it.
Jaylen waddle was drafted 6th, not 12th.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:


would never happen Lol this trade wouldn't go down for even one of those three

That's what they turned our picks used to get the pick for Trey into, not a trade proposal...

I think he's saying that you couldn't trade for one of those players straight up if you wanted to.

At least that's how I read it.

He pick the wrong image to say that then 😂
I think the Anthony Richardson situation is very similar to Trey lances, extremely raw. So i think it'll be interesting to see how he plays. I think Richardson is going to be awful. Like embarrassingly bad this year. I think Lance had more potential than Richardson but Richardson is a freak athletically, so maybe that'll bail him out. Lol but you know when the reports from the team are this bad, it's going to be awful. Bahahah

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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by tankle104:

He looks fit, what I wanna see is him able to operate the offense smoothly and efficiently. It's not his fault, but injuries have made it imperative that he takes steps forward this year. His 5th year option is coming up next year, and if he wants to be here, he's going to have to beat out Darnold for qb2 at the minimum. He's going to be making too much to be riding the pine. I am cautiously optimistic that he can do this, time is running out though.

Why the duck do I want my qb doing that. I want a qb not a f**king lb. Give me Brees, Roethlisberger, montana, Fouts, moon. Don't give me ray f**king lewis

That's how you prevent injuries!

Throwing the ball from the pocket is how you prevent injuries. Making quick decisions from the pocket prevents injuries.

Yes. I can confirm that these are the only 2 things that prevent QB injuries in football. Great job Kolohe. Dropping knowledge today.

Keep your sarcasm, but there's a reason Brady, Manning, Rothelisberger, Rivers and Brees had such long careers. Here's a hint, it didn't matter how much weights they repped or extreme cross fit drills they did.

Roethlisberger has been injured a ton in his career btw.

Yes pocket passers tend to have longer careers but that's because the thing they do well doesn't depreciate as much with age. The legs go long before the arm does.

However it's stupid to think those guys didn't train similar to what Lance had in that video. Brady in fact had a whole training system built around him after his ACL injury which was certainly in the pocket. I've seen videos of him running sprints as well over the years.

Yeah simply being a pocket passer doesn't help you avoid injuries, it's knowing how and when to go down. When Brady saw a free rusher coming at him, he'd go down on his own. Most of the injuries I've seen in football happen when a player fights to get extra yardage. Jerry had an insane sense of how to get tackled too, and it showed in his availability, so it doesn't just apply to QBs.

But we're only talking about QB's here. So lemme get this straight, running QB's don't know how to get tackled then??

All the top QB's in the NFL that are pocket QB's still get lit up day in and day out. But when they're in the pocket there's a lot more rules to protect the QB. Where as once they leave the pocket and take off running there's only one rule to protect them if they don't slide. Not to mention its easy to occur a non contact injury when you're outside the pocket.

LoL. Only on random messageboards are we going to troll athletes -- NFL athletes no less -- for exercising.

Can't make this sh** up if you tried.
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Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by tankle104:

He looks fit, what I wanna see is him able to operate the offense smoothly and efficiently. It's not his fault, but injuries have made it imperative that he takes steps forward this year. His 5th year option is coming up next year, and if he wants to be here, he's going to have to beat out Darnold for qb2 at the minimum. He's going to be making too much to be riding the pine. I am cautiously optimistic that he can do this, time is running out though.

Why the duck do I want my qb doing that. I want a qb not a f**king lb. Give me Brees, Roethlisberger, montana, Fouts, moon. Don't give me ray f**king lewis

That's how you prevent injuries!

Throwing the ball from the pocket is how you prevent injuries. Making quick decisions from the pocket prevents injuries.

Yes. I can confirm that these are the only 2 things that prevent QB injuries in football. Great job Kolohe. Dropping knowledge today.

Keep your sarcasm, but there's a reason Brady, Manning, Rothelisberger, Rivers and Brees had such long careers. Here's a hint, it didn't matter how much weights they repped or extreme cross fit drills they did.

Roethlisberger has been injured a ton in his career btw.

Yes pocket passers tend to have longer careers but that's because the thing they do well doesn't depreciate as much with age. The legs go long before the arm does.

However it's stupid to think those guys didn't train similar to what Lance had in that video. Brady in fact had a whole training system built around him after his ACL injury which was certainly in the pocket. I've seen videos of him running sprints as well over the years.

Yeah simply being a pocket passer doesn't help you avoid injuries, it's knowing how and when to go down. When Brady saw a free rusher coming at him, he'd go down on his own. Most of the injuries I've seen in football happen when a player fights to get extra yardage. Jerry had an insane sense of how to get tackled too, and it showed in his availability, so it doesn't just apply to QBs.

But we're only talking about QB's here. So lemme get this straight, running QB's don't know how to get tackled then??

All the top QB's in the NFL that are pocket QB's still get lit up day in and day out. But when they're in the pocket there's a lot more rules to protect the QB. Where as once they leave the pocket and take off running there's only one rule to protect them if they don't slide. Not to mention its easy to occur a non contact injury when you're outside the pocket.

LoL. Only on random messageboards are we going to troll athletes -- NFL athletes no less -- for exercising.

Can't make this sh** up if you tried.

How am I trolling when all I added was my opinion on other ways QB's can prevent injury.

Can't make this s**t up but you do all the time.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:


would never happen Lol this trade wouldn't go down for even one of those three

That's what they turned our picks used to get the pick for Trey into, not a trade proposal...

I think he's saying that you couldn't trade for one of those players straight up if you wanted to.

At least that's how I read it.

I wouldn't trade Trey for Chubb, who was overdrafted and is overpaid, or Hill, who is a domestic abuser. Not that there's much demand for Trey around the league. Folks who might be interested in Trey are just going to wait to see if he's cut if he doesn't show enough improvement this year to warrant using his fifth year option.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:


would never happen Lol this trade wouldn't go down for even one of those three

That's what they turned our picks used to get the pick for Trey into, not a trade proposal...

I think he's saying that you couldn't trade for one of those players straight up if you wanted to.

At least that's how I read it.

Is he saying, with the Trey Lance picks, this is what the Dolphins have done with those picks thus far?
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:


would never happen Lol this trade wouldn't go down for even one of those three

That's what they turned our picks used to get the pick for Trey into, not a trade proposal...

I think he's saying that you couldn't trade for one of those players straight up if you wanted to.

At least that's how I read it.

Is he saying, with the Trey Lance picks, this is what the Dolphins have done with those picks thus far?

Yes. These are the players the dolphins acquired using the picks we traded them to draft Trey. Obviously there was other stuff included in the trades to acquire these guys, so it's not really fair to say we could have had all 3 of these guys instead of Trey.
Correct me if I'm wrong. Miami traded back to #6 by giving the #12 pick to Philly AND the niners 2022 first rounder in the lance trade. They got waddle.for that. They used their own 2022 first rounder for hill. So to say they got both hill and waddle out of the trade is just wrong.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:


would never happen Lol this trade wouldn't go down for even one of those three

That's what they turned our picks used to get the pick for Trey into, not a trade proposal...

I think he's saying that you couldn't trade for one of those players straight up if you wanted to.

At least that's how I read it.

Is he saying, with the Trey Lance picks, this is what the Dolphins have done with those picks thus far?

Amazing that we still stomped them with Mr. Irrelevant coming in cold off the bench, and have a better roster pretty much across the board. Just goes to show what a good job building the roster up that our team has done despite that bad trade. Folks forget that before Kyle and John we were 32nd in defense and 27th in offense with a bad roster.
[ Edited by Memphis9er on Jul 11, 2023 at 10:41 AM ]
Who cares what Miami did with the picks? This turn into a Dolphins thread suddenly?
Originally posted by genus49:
Who cares what Miami did with the picks? This turn into a Dolphins thread suddenly?

I think the convo on the trade up to acquire TL is not only part of the TL thread, but will be a discussion for some time to come. It's like Alex vs Aaron. Some convos are here to stay, cuz they are such big moments / moves, in franchise history.
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by genus49:
Who cares what Miami did with the picks? This turn into a Dolphins thread suddenly?

I think the convo on the trade up to acquire TL is not only part of the TL thread, but will be a discussion for some time to come. It's like Alex vs Aaron. Some convos are here to stay, cuz they are such big moments / moves, in franchise history.

Do you think we'd be a better or worse team if we had Waddle, Hill, and Chubb instead of Lance?
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by genus49:
Who cares what Miami did with the picks? This turn into a Dolphins thread suddenly?

I think the convo on the trade up to acquire TL is not only part of the TL thread, but will be a discussion for some time to come. It's like Alex vs Aaron. Some convos are here to stay, cuz they are such big moments / moves, in franchise history.

I don't care if you could name 50 all star players we could've had instead of Trey, none of it matters if they aren't a franchise QB.

So if let's say TUA was part of that trade (which I know he wasn't), and you thought he was better, ok, fine. Or Herbert or someone of that caliber....

But instead it's a bunch of decent players, which guess what , the Niners already have a bunch of already. If instead of those 3 they happened to be Dre Greenlaw, Ambry Thomas, and Ross Dwelley, nobody would really care even though those players have made meaningful contributions to their team.
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