Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by tankle104:
I'd 1000% rather see Lance run the same offense Purdy & Jimmy ran. I think all that running with a QB is dumb. Mainly because it puts them at risk of unnecessarily injuring the QB (most important player on the field).
i never want to see a designed run by Lance again. Lol I want to see him pass first and if the play breaks down, he books it then. I think he has a great skill set for that and would do that better than most QBs can.
the point of me posting that video was because it was our HC specifically talking about that stuff and how he does it. I'm not saying Lance can't run the same Style offense as Purdy, of course he can. Anyone can run any system, just begs the question can they do it well?
i think Lance would struggle a lot cause of his accuracy concerns (hopefully improved this off season). I don't really talk about him running that offense because his play calls were vastly different than what Kyle usually calls. So the natural conclusion is that Kyle thinks Lance is best suited for that kind of offense, which means he designs it differently because of his skill set.
i don't want Lance running the ball the way he has. I hate it and think it's a waste. If a QB has to rely on their legs to open up their passing lanes, then I don't think they should be playing QB. I'd much much rather see Lance drop back 98% of the time and run in very unique situations.
I understand what you were trying to insinuate with the video, I just don't agree with the take because of the timing and situations as well as the simple fact that RG3 and Lance are different players. Seems like an easy comp to say well they're both running QBs but they come from very different offenses in college.
RG3 came from a spread offense that was why the Shanahan's had to adjust their offense to fit what he did well and simplify things for him. Lance came from a pro style offense and by all accounts had it mastered as an 18 year old and was teaching concepts to upper classmen before even getting the starting job.
That is why i don't think the video applies to Trey. Flave is too stupid to understand the differences of the mental side of the game and what RG3 played with vs what Lance is being asked to do. The running part of it is easy to put in or take out. But you can't have your offense run the spread variation for one QB if he isn't your starter and pro style for the other guys.
I think there is a big difference between mastering the playbook and mastering the offense and I've heard players talk about this before with kyles offense. You can have all the plays down and lingo, but then the execution of those plays is where it's hard to figure out. It requires timing, footwork, adjusting to the speed/size of your skill players, how you manipulate with your eyes, the confidence of hitting tight window plays, understanding what's Kyle is going for/setting up etc.
I question if Lance can run this kind of pro style offense efficiently in the near future, because so far it's been difficult for him. In college, all his touchdowns were wide open. It was a simpler pro style offense with essentially no emphasis on the passing game, against lesser talent. That's why they always win the chip regardless of who the QB is. The qb is a plug and play piece there.
which leads me to believe why Kyle leans so much on treys running ability and really stayed away from his passing ability until he absolutely had to.
i think Trey will get much better over time. I just think it's going to take him a few seasons of play to get there. That's what worries me, and I think it will be pretty rough along the way.
then again, when I watched his college tape, I never came away impressed with his passing ability. Looked labored, wide open, I couldn't tell how accurate he really was because of that. Things like that. So when I watch him, I never have come away with this impression that he is oozing with super star potential. I just view him as a guy that can do good in the league, like a dak prescott, but not someone who is going to get you over the hump.
[ Edited by tankle104 on Jul 6, 2023 at 2:18 PM ]
