Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

We'll have to see how things play out but there is a chance the ankle injury was a blessing in disguise for Trey. With that finger injury and his struggle with throwing correctly because of it, which impacted the rest of his mechanics - he probably would of had a pretty rough season.

it sucks he didn't get the experience but it may work out well for him. Having nothing but rough tape going into your third year isn't good. Having mine isn't good but at least he is fresh now. We will see how it plays out

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
You feel defeated?

You should feel good that we don't have to depend on this kind of improvement and have a guy who did nothing but play extraordinarily well in his first stretch as a pro. The offense was dominant.

Purdy is a 7th rounder who fought to earn a spot on the roster and answered the call when he got an opportunity. He's earned his position. Lance can do it as well, and our team will be better for it no matter the result.

True your right. It really is exciting to have 2 young guys starting off there career with so much potential and so hungry and ready to win. I do get Purdy and Lance here will only make each one better. Even Darnold given his past is also ready to compete and start over. I only feel defeated cause I'm a big Lance fan and i have to accept he's most likely going to be on the bench. But it's ok though he will keep working and if his day comes i hope he's ready and shines,

Originally posted by Raul98:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Raul98:
I got a serious question. I understand this is now Purdy's team and the best Lance can get this summer is the number 2 spot. My question is, outside of a Purdy injury is there anything Lance can do this training camp to get the starter job back or is it to late?

I would say if he looks like the Second Coming in training camp and pre-season, then yeah maybe.

Part of me feels he will show them a big improvement from his first 2 seasons but there mind is already made up they want Purdy, I honestly don't know anything realistic he can show them to change there mind.

I think he'd have to look like a legitimate star, not just improved.

Originally posted by Raul98:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
You feel defeated?

You should feel good that we don't have to depend on this kind of improvement and have a guy who did nothing but play extraordinarily well in his first stretch as a pro. The offense was dominant.

Purdy is a 7th rounder who fought to earn a spot on the roster and answered the call when he got an opportunity. He's earned his position. Lance can do it as well, and our team will be better for it no matter the result.

True your right. It really is exciting to have 2 young guys starting off there career with so much potential and so hungry and ready to win. I do get Purdy and Lance here will only make each one better. Even Darnold given his past is also ready to compete and start over. I only feel defeated cause I'm a big Lance fan and i have to accept he's most likely going to be on the bench. But it's ok though he will keep working and if his day comes i hope he's ready and shines,

He has to do like Alex Smith did and come off and light it up like he did against the Texans. That was the murmur that restarted his career. It took a couple more years later, but Lance will most likely need to be sharp and ready, assuming he beats out Darnold but doesn't play well enough to unseat Purdy before Purdy returns.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Raul98:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Raul98:
I got a serious question. I understand this is now Purdy's team and the best Lance can get this summer is the number 2 spot. My question is, outside of a Purdy injury is there anything Lance can do this training camp to get the starter job back or is it to late?

I would say if he looks like the Second Coming in training camp and pre-season, then yeah maybe.

Part of me feels he will show them a big improvement from his first 2 seasons but there mind is already made up they want Purdy, I honestly don't know anything realistic he can show them to change there mind.

I think he'd have to look like a legitimate star, not just improved.

Or if Purdy isn't the same guy and falls off due to the injury or DCs having more film on him and made adjustments. They both don't have this huge sample size, not large enough to know anything definitely on who will be our QB moving forward. There's people in here that believe 50+ games isn't enough to give up on a QB and there's still hope, so how can 8 and 4 games say anything definitively one way or the other? We'll see

Originally posted by 49ers808:
Or if Purdy isn't the same guy and falls off due to the injury or DCs having more film on him and made adjustments. They both don't have this huge sample size, not large enough to know anything definitely on who will be our QB moving forward. There's people in here that believe 50+ games isn't enough to give up on a QB and there's still hope, so how can 8 and 4 games say anything definitively one way or the other? We'll see

Purdy can play himself out of the position for sure, but a replacement would still have to be a better option.

I know we don't want to think about this but it's possible our QB situation this season isn't good between our three options.

If anything is clear in this situation it's that development is not going to be prioritized over winning, no matter who the player is. Purdy not playing as well doesn't automatically mean Lance is a good option again. I would bet good money that if Lance doesn't prove to be 'ready' this offseason and Brock regresses or has trouble recovering from his injury, we'll look in an entirely new direction next year.

Originally posted by Raul98:
I got a serious question. I understand this is now Purdy's team and the best Lance can get this summer is the number 2 spot. My question is, outside of a Purdy injury is there anything Lance can do this training camp to get the starter job back or is it to late?

TL train already left the station and he wasn't on it... best he can do is fight for QB2, but he has to beat out Sammy and that will be a difficult task as SD has much more experience and talent... his next best opportunity for TL is battle with Brandon Allen for the QB3, Allen is an experience vet who has comparable regular season stats over many more games and TL will have his hands full to beat him out to hold the clipboard...

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
TL train already left the station and he wasn't on it... best he can do is fight for QB2, but he has to beat out Sammy and that will be a difficult task as SD has much more experience and talent... his next best opportunity for TL is battle with Brandon Allen for the QB3, Allen is an experience vet who has comparable regular season stats over many more games and TL will have his hands full to beat him out to hold the clipboard...

Go to bed

Originally posted by eric_anthony:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
TL train already left the station and he wasn't on it... best he can do is fight for QB2, but he has to beat out Sammy and that will be a difficult task as SD has much more experience and talent... his next best opportunity for TL is battle with Brandon Allen for the QB3, Allen is an experience vet who has comparable regular season stats over many more games and TL will have his hands full to beat him out to hold the clipboard...

Go to bed

lol

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Kyle Shanahan says that Trey Lance has been able to correct his grip, which was compromised by the 2021 fractured finger, and that's put him in a much better spot mechanically now than last year.

This was noticeable on the practice field today #49ers

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) May 23, 2023

I wonder if the finger booboo contributed to having a higher frequency of wobbles per rotation in his passes.

Most definitely, probably also affected the wobbles per yard traveled in air, which is almost as important.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

#49ers Trey Lance says Brock Purdy has earned the "leader in the clubhouse" label and gives a ton of credit to what he accomplished last season

— 𝙏𝙝𝙚𝙎𝙁𝙉𝙞𝙣𝙚𝙧𝙨 (@TheSFNiners) May 23, 2023

and yet people for whatever reason give him all kinds of s**t.

Yep. I also don't understand why people have done that to Brock after the rookie season he's had. Always trying to knock him. Lance understands but a faction of our fan base doesn't.

I don't like it, if that's the totality of how he feels. Trey's attitude should be, "I'm gonna take Purdy's job." Hopefully he feels that way and is just being diplomatic. Same with Darnold. I need these guys to ruthlessly compete. You can be a good teammate and good sport if you lose the competition. But you need to be acting as if you want to take that man's job.

I see you come from the Zach Wilson school of media interviews

No no no. It was Lance's interviews which made me actually start willing to put in time to research who he was. You have to be diplomatic as he did. But I'm afraid Lance is a "what you see is what you get" guy, and he actually feels like he's still in that understudy role. He has got to come out fighting to steal a man's job if he wants to be the QB for the 49ers going forward.

I hear you, one thing I have been asking for is angry Lance. It's a big life switch from NDSU, to NFL and star QB for the 49ers.. so there may be a multi year adjustment / soaking everything up. He should be a lot more comfortable now, in his 3rd year in our offseason.

What does he have to be angry about? Nothing has been done to him that he should be angry, just bad injury luck. Fake anger is going to be seen for what it is, and you'll come across as fake. He is handling everything that has happened like a professional, and that is the way he should be handling things. Like the calm, level headed adult you'd want leading your squad in the fourth quarter of a game. Not some blowhard faker who loses their cool under pressure. Doers don't talk much, talkers don't do much.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
load looks more compact which is good/faster, too hard to tell if he has changed his delivery... wait and see with better video... problem is, when he is not thinking and just reacting is he going to revert to how he always threw the ball... hard to make major changes to the passing motion at his age and be successful

LOL

I'm assuming you disagree with the following opinions based on your "LOL"

1) looks more compact which is good
(appears that way. Don't think it's LOL worthy IMO)
2) will revert when there are live reps
(very possible. Something that is often said in football communities. Again not LOL worthy IMO)
3) hard to make major changes to his passing motion at this stage of his career and be successful
( I know players often tweak stuff here and there during offseason. Or work on cleaning stuff up. Not too familiar with major overhauls in year 3 of NFL career. Well see what happens but again not LOL worthy)

I disagree with the idea that he is going to revert back to his old throwing motion. That is nothing more than a baseless assumption due to the posters hate of the player. We have seen many quarterbacks change their mechanics over the years, but because its Trey Lance, the change in mechanics arent sustainable. Also, "hard to make major changes....at his age and be successful" is an equally laughable claim. A 23 year old is too old to make changes and be successful? I could understand if he was 35, but at 23 we are making that silly claim? So dumb.

No man, that is a legit thing that happens. I am on record from very early in this thread of being pro Lance, but after you spend years throwing a certain way, it become muscle memory instinct and you can try to change it and still slip back into bad habits. It is a very difficult thing to do for some folks. Most qb's have to work on thier basics every year to keep their throwing motion in tune. Its the same as how golfers get out of sync and have to work on getting their shots back in sync. Takes lots of hard work to rebuild muscle memory, though it can vary from person to person. That's why we pay a qb coach though.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Ok so when you read the "if the FO is 100% sold on Purdy" what did your brain perceive it as?

How many times has this FO been "all in" or used the word "conviction" only to back out of that stance…especially at QB?

truth is we got a bunch of question marks at QB. IMO none of these guys have some long leash or haven proven enough to be the long-term guy.

John Lynch said that, if healthy, Brock was qb 1 and that he'd earned it? C'mon man, I've been on the Trey bus since very early on, but there's no point in ignoring the reality of the situation. Trey has a huge hill to climb to get the starting job back, and I personally think Lynch is speaking the truth. It's not a knock on Lance either, he's just had some bad injury luck at the worst time for a young qb. I just hope that if he can't win the job back that they try to get him in any games we have a comfortable lead in so he can get the reps under live fire to build his value, or to further hone his skills in order to compete for the starting job next year. I want a controversy if not this year, then for sure next year. It's good for the team. I don't even begin to understand any talk of trading him this year under any circumstances, we burn through qb's too fast, and our right side of the offensive line still scares me a bit.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
John Lynch said that, if healthy, Brock was qb 1 and that he'd earned it? C'mon man, I've been on the Trey bus since very early on, but there's no point in ignoring the reality of the situation. Trey has a huge hill to climb to get the starting job back, and I personally think Lynch is speaking the truth. It's not a knock on Lance either, he's just had some bad injury luck at the worst time for a young qb. I just hope that if he can't win the job back that they try to get him in any games we have a comfortable lead in so he can get the reps under live fire to build his value, or to further hone his skills in order to compete for the starting job next year. I want a controversy if not this year, then for sure next year. It's good for the team. I don't even begin to understand any talk of trading him this year under any circumstances, we burn through qb's too fast, and our right side of the offensive line still scares me a bit.

Why are people just assuming Brock will keep the job though? What if he struggles?

Originally posted by JTB1974:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
John Lynch said that, if healthy, Brock was qb 1 and that he'd earned it? C'mon man, I've been on the Trey bus since very early on, but there's no point in ignoring the reality of the situation. Trey has a huge hill to climb to get the starting job back, and I personally think Lynch is speaking the truth. It's not a knock on Lance either, he's just had some bad injury luck at the worst time for a young qb. I just hope that if he can't win the job back that they try to get him in any games we have a comfortable lead in so he can get the reps under live fire to build his value, or to further hone his skills in order to compete for the starting job next year. I want a controversy if not this year, then for sure next year. It's good for the team. I don't even begin to understand any talk of trading him this year under any circumstances, we burn through qb's too fast, and our right side of the offensive line still scares me a bit.

Why are people just assuming Brock will keep the job though? What if he struggles?

Impossible or at least extremely unlikely that we'd bench him even if he does struggle. Kyle doesn't bench QBs very often. They usually get injured before it gets to that point.