Originally posted by Waterbear:
Smokey, you know damn well someone saying "the irony" is not even close to the worst example of misappropriation in this thread. I thought it was funny, that's it, you're the one trying to make this into a gotcha moment. I like some of Krizay's posts and others of his that I don't like, but he's come into the Trey thread to mock Trey often, I don't see you calling out those posts for hypocrisy, it's no secret why not. Personally, I don't have animosity towards Mac Jones like other posters do towards Trey. And yes, you can have an independent projection of a player, so even if it's technically not a hypocritical post, it was funny, and the point made was not a good one since being in a good program says virtually nothing about your personal adversity or lack there of.
It's also hilarious that you're trying to say there's a one way crusade from a select group of posters, when all you've done this offseason was lead a group of posters to believe any negative report about Trey, put limitations on Trey's future, repeatedly beat a dead horse that you don't believe in Trey's ability, and mock others who do the same for Brock or Sam.
Meanwhile I've been saying from the beginning that we don't know how Trey will perform given adequate playing time, I've repeatedly stated I don't thinks it's fair to assume Trey would outperform Jimmy, or that he has a higher ceiling than Purdy, I said it's perfectly reasonable to not believe in Trey and to criticize him for missing throws vs Chicago, and I've repeatedly said that I believe in Brock, so much so that it wouldn't bother me at all if Brock played every snap from here on out. I would be thrilled in fact because that means he's healthy and playing well.
Unlike you, I don't make definitive claims a young QB with 3 starts, I don't have over half of my posts in a thread of a player I don't believe in (which might be a record btw), and yet you're the one accusing others of having an agenda.
So sure, Krizay's post isn't technically hypocritical, but even mentioning a one way crusade and lumping me in there… is 100% hypocritical.
All of the nonsense in this post, only to finally get to what was actually at hand in the discussion (it's bolded for you).
The rest of this post is you doing exactly what I said you do. You disagree with something someone says, and rather than address it on the merits, you make straw man arguments and mischaracterize positions.
I haven't made pretty much any of the claims, especially definitively, that you're incorrectly assigning to me in this post. Probably the easiest example is that I have a definitive opinion on what Trey will or won't be as a player, or that I have put limitations on his 'ceiling' and have given up on him. Just two days ago you said this same thing to me and I responded that I don't think I've ever discussed a limitation on his ceiling, outside of saying he wasn't as talented as players like Mahomes or Allen. Yet here you are again... completely glazing over the points I've actually made.
Further I haven't mocked anybody on this board. Probably the closest I've came is returning fire a couple of idiotic posters who become insulting when they face disagreement. I respond to people's posts on the merits of those posts.
Not that it's any concern of yours but half my posts are in this thread (and many more in the other QB threads) because that's what I'm interested in talking about here. It's not only one of the most interesting situations across the entire NFL, but how the vocal part of our fanbase on social media has handled the QB situation since we made the trade up in 2021 is fascinating to me. Think of it as rubbernecking a train wreck. No better place to get into that than 49ers boards. When I want to have serious football conversations about other issues with the 49ers, or just football in general, there are other outlets.
