Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by swoosh6996:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Why hold him prisoner. He has to move on, and find a new home for himself, and rediscover his potential. Been, hitting the sauce a little to much, it seems. Stick, with non-alcoholic, my friend.

Prisoner of what? He's getting damn near all the 1st string reps this off season and has a chance to be the starter WK1. He's under contract here. Why hold Sam Prisoner? Why hold Danny gray prisoner? We should trade them all right?

Only one who seems drunk this early is you my dude.

Lol, I don't drink anymore, been 25 years. Just, coffee and an occasional O'Douls, non-alcoholic. Why are you so fixed in keeping him? He's not all that, I think we all know that now. He has talent, but he hasn't proven s**t in three years.

Do we really want to put all of our eggs in one basket for a guy who's coming off of a major elbow surgery and still hasn't proven anything yet himself? No, you keep Trey and give him every opportunity in the world to prove he was the right pick at #3. There's no good reason to trade Trey, unless someone really blows it out of the water with a dumb offer (that is never gonna happen).

Some of y'all got too much of a hard-on on the idea of getting rid of Trey, when it makes zero logical since to do so. Man, some things never change in this thread

Guys in the big leagues have made major recoveries with more serious elbow surgeries, I mean Tommy John surgery, which Brock didn't require. Modern surgery has come along ways from years past. There's no reason, Brock can't come back, 100% or close to it.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Get a RT and another edge rusher to team with Nick, in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

Who name someone?? Who's gonna be this stud RT or EDGE? We can draft all that at the end of the 3rd just as well. The player talent outside of like 10-12 guys is not great this year.

if people paid attention to this draft for the past couple months they'd get know

from what I've read is that there aren't that many blue chips but the mid round guys are more solid than most drafts. Is that accurate?

like it's not a great draft to have a bunch of 1s but good if you have 3-5th rounders? I haven't done a bunch of research on it but thats what I've got from what I've read.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Get a RT and another edge rusher to team with Nick, in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

Who name someone?? Who's gonna be this stud RT or EDGE? We can draft all that at the end of the 3rd just as well. The player talent outside of like 10-12 guys is not great this year.

if people paid attention to this draft for the past couple months they'd get know

We don't need a stud, just someone better than what we had with McGlinchey.

Originally posted by mayo49:
Guys in the big leagues have made major recoveries with more serious elbow surgeries, I mean Tommy John surgery, which Brock didn't require. Modern surgery has come along ways from years past. There's no reason, Brock can't come back, 100% or close to it.

Yeah, I think the biggest concern is just timing. Especially since it's so early in his recovery. There could easily be a setback right now that pushes his return out a month or two.

to me, that's the biggest risk of trading Lance. If you do it during the draft, then something happens in late May or early June, we are relying on darnold. Which he's obviously a talented guy but that doesn't mean he will play well. That's a big risk.

i personally wouldn't trade Lance for cheap. It would have to be an offer i desired. Otherwise, I'd rather have the QB room be as solid as possible.

Originally posted by genus49:
He's more experienced from the throwing perspective. It doesn't make him better in our offense in 2023 or beyond. He also happens to be older than Trey.

As for krizay's question does it matter? Not like you'd respect the answer anyways.

Hendon Hooker happens to be 25 years old already. Tell me how good he was at 21/22?

No matter how much you guys want to downplay Lance there things that make highly successful QBs in the NFL Lance has displayed on film IN the NFL. He simply hasn't played long enough to do them consistently but that's not all his fault since the team decided to sit him as a rookie and then he got injured on a fluke play in the 2nd game of this season.

If the idea is we can't give Lance the game reps he needs to develop properly because we found a QB like Brock that's not the same thing as we don't want Lance here because he can't play in the NFL.

We will find out soon enough where the team stands. If they do trade him for peanuts before/during the draft then we'll know Lance wasn't very good in the eyes of Shanahan(which will certainly raise questions on wtf we were thinking taking him 3rd overall and making the type of move to get him just 2 years ago) but it will answer that question.

Right now we're reacting to rumors with people trying to read between the lines. Yes if the 49ers feel Brock Purdy is their guy moving forward then you don't need a guy like Lance sitting behind him, you try to get what you can for him. BUT given the situation with Brock's health and our propensity not lose QBs to injury getting rid of the only other QB who has actually played with this team recently for junk WHILE losing cap space makes no damn sense.

That's funny. You asked me a question yesterday. I answered and you never even acknowledged it. Now you want to talk about respecting someone's answers .

Your last point was my main thing from the beginning. If they feel Brock is the guy moving forward then I would trade him. Once they came out and announced Brock as QB1 it was a no brainer to me to move off of him. If you can get at least good value for him.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Get a RT and another edge rusher to team with Nick, in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

Who name someone?? Who's gonna be this stud RT or EDGE? We can draft all that at the end of the 3rd just as well. The player talent outside of like 10-12 guys is not great this year.

if people paid attention to this draft for the past couple months they'd get know

We don't need a stud, just someone better than what we had with McGlinchey.

MGC was an above average tackle, it'll be hard to find a rookie to play better than he did, not impossible, but difficult.

we could trade for a player though, someone who is solid at RT. I think it's unlikely but yeah.

i wouldn't expect Lance to be traded anytime soon, if he is at all. I'll be shocked if it's during the draft.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Guys in the big leagues have made major recoveries with more serious elbow surgeries, I mean Tommy John surgery, which Brock didn't require. Modern surgery has come along ways from years past. There's no reason, Brock can't come back, 100% or close to it.

Yeah, I think the biggest concern is just timing. Especially since it's so early in his recovery. There could easily be a setback right now that pushes his return out a month or two.

to me, that's the biggest risk of trading Lance. If you do it during the draft, then something happens in late May or early June, we are relying on darnold. Which he's obviously a talented guy but that doesn't mean he will play well. That's a big risk.

i personally wouldn't trade Lance for cheap. It would have to be an offer i desired. Otherwise, I'd rather have the QB room be as solid as possible.

Yeah, I think Darnold is capable enough to hold the fort, if Brock isn't ready to start the season. I think the Qb room is in good hands with Darnold and another late pick or vet.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Get a RT and another edge rusher to team with Nick, in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

Who name someone?? Who's gonna be this stud RT or EDGE? We can draft all that at the end of the 3rd just as well. The player talent outside of like 10-12 guys is not great this year.

if people paid attention to this draft for the past couple months they'd get know

We don't need a stud, just someone better than what we had with McGlinchey.

MGC was an above average tackle, it'll be hard to find a rookie to play better than he did, not impossible, but difficult.

we could trade for a player though, someone who is solid at RT. I think it's unlikely but yeah.

i wouldn't expect Lance to be traded anytime soon, if he is at all. I'll be shocked if it's during the draft.

You can find a gem, especially in the 2nd or 3rd round. I agree, McGlinchey was above average, but he wasn't well rounded. He lacked in pass protection.

Originally posted by mayo49:
Guys in the big leagues have made major recoveries with more serious elbow surgeries, I mean Tommy John surgery, which Brock didn't require. Modern surgery has come along ways from years past. There's no reason, Brock can't come back, 100% or close to it.

First off there's a MASSIVE difference between the two surgeries.

TJ surgery requires donor ligaments to reconstruct the UCL. It takes longer to heal BUT the outcome creates a tighter/stronger UCL.

what Brock had was an internal brace to take stress off the torn UCL and allow it to recover on it's own. There is no new ligaments. Just hope that it heals on its own over time. Now ligaments take longer to heal because of a lack of blood flow (compared to a tendon). Which means everyone's healing process is different. You can also re-tear it or completely f**k up all the rehab you've done if you're not 110%. SF would be insane to push his rehab or put him out there before then. I mean kyle doesn't seem to have the best interests for his QBs, so they very well could do that…which could lead to having TJ and no football for a long as time.

then what???

Originally posted by mayo49:
We don't need a stud, just someone better than what we had with McGlinchey.

Lol you mean the guy who just got $85M? So you can't tell me who they should draft with this made up scenario?

I can't believe we are talking about Sam Darnold being capable. I mean, what are we doing here? With this roster?? Go out and get the best qb you can get (Cousins, Rodgers, Brady, Lamar, etc...) and just win this damn thing already.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Guys in the big leagues have made major recoveries with more serious elbow surgeries, I mean Tommy John surgery, which Brock didn't require. Modern surgery has come along ways from years past. There's no reason, Brock can't come back, 100% or close to it.

First off there's a MASSIVE difference between the two surgeries.

TJ surgery requires donor ligaments to reconstruct the UCL. It takes longer to heal BUT the outcome creates a tighter/stronger UCL.

what Brock had was an internal brace to take stress off the torn UCL and allow it to recover on it's own. There is no new ligaments. Just hope that it heals on its own over time. Now ligaments take longer to heal because of a lack of blood flow (compared to a tendon). Which means everyone's healing process is different. You can also re-tear it or completely f**k up all the rehab you've done if you're not 110%. SF would be insane to push his rehab or put him out there before then. I mean kyle doesn't seem to have the best interests for his QBs, so they very well could do that…which could lead to having TJ and no football for a long as time.

then what???

I think, Kyle has his best interest for his quarterbacks, but it depends who they are. Brock is a phenom, given he's back to his old self or close to it.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by swoosh6996:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Why hold him prisoner. He has to move on, and find a new home for himself, and rediscover his potential. Been, hitting the sauce a little to much, it seems. Stick, with non-alcoholic, my friend.

Prisoner of what? He's getting damn near all the 1st string reps this off season and has a chance to be the starter WK1. He's under contract here. Why hold Sam Prisoner? Why hold Danny gray prisoner? We should trade them all right?

Only one who seems drunk this early is you my dude.

Lol, I don't drink anymore, been 25 years. Just, coffee and an occasional O'Douls, non-alcoholic. Why are you so fixed in keeping him? He's not all that, I think we all know that now. He has talent, but he hasn't proven s**t in three years.

Do we really want to put all of our eggs in one basket for a guy who's coming off of a major elbow surgery and still hasn't proven anything yet himself? No, you keep Trey and give him every opportunity in the world to prove he was the right pick at #3. There's no good reason to trade Trey, unless someone really blows it out of the water with a dumb offer (that is never gonna happen).

Some of y'all got too much of a hard-on on the idea of getting rid of Trey, when it makes zero logical since to do so. Man, some things never change in this thread

Guys in the big leagues have made major recoveries with more serious elbow surgeries, I mean Tommy John surgery, which Brock didn't require. Modern surgery has come along ways from years past. There's no reason, Brock can't come back, 100% or close to it.

Ok, but my other point still stands. Brock still hasn't proven he's the long term answer either. What if he comes crashing down and starts playing like a 7th round QB? There are many times where we anoint someone too quickly, and then the NFL figures them out and we are stuck with a mediocre to below average QB.

You keep Lance, period. As we have learned in the past, we shouldn't put all of our eggs in one basket.

Originally posted by raywm3:
I can't believe we are talking about Sam Darnold being capable. I mean, what are we doing here? With this roster?? Go out and get the best qb you can get (Cousins, Rodgers, Brady, Lamar, etc...) and just win this damn thing already.

Who did you expect to be available, Josh Allen? Lol.

Originally posted by swoosh6996:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by swoosh6996:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Why hold him prisoner. He has to move on, and find a new home for himself, and rediscover his potential. Been, hitting the sauce a little to much, it seems. Stick, with non-alcoholic, my friend.

Prisoner of what? He's getting damn near all the 1st string reps this off season and has a chance to be the starter WK1. He's under contract here. Why hold Sam Prisoner? Why hold Danny gray prisoner? We should trade them all right?

Only one who seems drunk this early is you my dude.

Lol, I don't drink anymore, been 25 years. Just, coffee and an occasional O'Douls, non-alcoholic. Why are you so fixed in keeping him? He's not all that, I think we all know that now. He has talent, but he hasn't proven s**t in three years.

Do we really want to put all of our eggs in one basket for a guy who's coming off of a major elbow surgery and still hasn't proven anything yet himself? No, you keep Trey and give him every opportunity in the world to prove he was the right pick at #3. There's no good reason to trade Trey, unless someone really blows it out of the water with a dumb offer (that is never gonna happen).

Some of y'all got too much of a hard-on on the idea of getting rid of Trey, when it makes zero logical since to do so. Man, some things never change in this thread

Guys in the big leagues have made major recoveries with more serious elbow surgeries, I mean Tommy John surgery, which Brock didn't require. Modern surgery has come along ways from years past. There's no reason, Brock can't come back, 100% or close to it.

Ok, but my other point still stands. Brock still hasn't proven he's the long term answer either. What if he comes crashing down and starts playing like a 7th round QB? There are many times where we anoint someone too quickly, and then the NFL figures them out and we are stuck with a mediocre to below average QB.

You keep Lance, period. As we have learned in the past, we shouldn't put all of our eggs in one basket.

It's too late, to go back now. Purdy is who they're going with, sink or swim. God, I got to stop, I make too much sense. It isn't rocket science, friends.