Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by genus49:
Dude shut up. I don't want to knock Brock because he played great but I've been seeing your posts last few pages go on and on about how amazing he was while pretending Lance "stunk it up" and how CMC didn't make a big impact in that.

You literally saw a glimpse of Brock's worst set of reps in a rain game nowhere near what the team played with week 1.

Before Brock went in we saw the improvement on offense with CMC in there. Jimmy G went from Jittery Jimmy back to Jimmy GQ.

The idea that Lance would "stink it up" with a healthy Kittle and CMC in games outside of a monsoon during a period when the team wasn't clearly rusty from preseason is straight hate or delusion, your choice.

This thread is about Lance not Brock. Even if Brock comes back healthy before week 1, Trey is the guy who will be out there for the bulk of camp. We don't know if Brock will be back healthy, if he'll be back by week 1, if he'll stay healthy.

The best thing for this team is to get to see both guys play with the same players, in same conditions and vs the same defenders. Comparing games week 1 to when the team hits their stride is ridiculous, especially when you have two or your game changers unavailable for one guy.

You've said this a couple times now and I really don't understand it. I can't think of the rain impacting much of Brock's play in that game outside of his first pass attempt.

The team scored on 4 of 5 possessions in the first half for 16 points at halftime. Three field goals isn't the most efficient offense but 16 points is right in line with their 33 ppg scoring average with Brock as the starter. Ended up with 40 points and a blowout victory.

I would agree if you wanted to argue it actually wasn't the best we've seen him play, but he was playing well and the offense was great overall.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by elguapo:
Exactly. I love how some people neglect to state how good the Cowboys pass rush is and how poorly our offensive line played. Any quarterback would've done worse than Brock except maybe Mahomes and Allen. Purdy was so much better than we are used to and he's a damn rookie

Go watch our OL vs the bears weeks one. Pretty bad man. Trent was getting beat vs day 3 rookie edge rushers. That has nothing to do with Brock, just as fact of a WK1 football game.

So far it's the wr, OL, and weathers fault. Lol :/ poor Trey

Let's just say it's all true, Trey also played poorly. Please explain to me that int that secured the bears victory?

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by elguapo:
Exactly. I love how some people neglect to state how good the Cowboys pass rush is and how poorly our offensive line played. Any quarterback would've done worse than Brock except maybe Mahomes and Allen. Purdy was so much better than we are used to and he's a damn rookie

Go watch our OL vs the bears weeks one. Pretty bad man. Trent was getting beat vs day 3 rookie edge rushers. That has nothing to do with Brock, just as fact of a WK1 football game.

So far it's the wr, OL, and weathers fault. Lol :/ poor Trey

Let's just say it's all true, Trey also played poorly. Please explain to me that int that secured the bears victory?

It's Treys fault too but to say these factors have nothing to do with the outcome, is just silly. This entire conversation really is. Judging any player after a few games is just stupid.

I'm going to allow Trey haters to stew in their incessant hatred all offseason as this team prepares to hold a competition that Trey is likely to win as we ready ourselves for Trey to be under center for this franchise week one



These bitter player haters are gonna be sick 🤢!

Originally posted by tankle104:
There is definitely merit to what you're saying but at the same time, he still had deebo (all pro), Williams (all pro), Aiyuk (dependable 1k receiver), McG (solid RT), Elijah Mitchell, juice, and Kyle. So it isn't like he was playing with scrubs - just not all pro talent across the board. Most are lucky to play with one all pro and a pro bowler. So I personally view his situation as victimless and just bad football.

id bet on Purdy, as well. It isn't necessarily a matter of IF he wins it, just when is he healthy. If Lance has to start a few games and tears it up - awesome for the 49ers.

Posts like this is why I question if some of you guys actually even remember what happened in some of these games or if you just think you saw a kid struggle and too lazy to go back to check things.

Week 1:
Deebo - huge drop in red zone after Trey had them driving, couple of drops as well
Aiyuk - no major gripes, he did have a bogus OPI called on him on a beautiful pass from Trey on would be 3rd down conversion - I believe Trey converted it on the repeat with the penalty yards added anyways.
Trent and McG were absolutely getting worked in that game. People literally pointed to that game with Trent tipping pass vs run plays because he played so poorly and a Bears rookie DE mentioned it after the game.
You have your OTs struggling in a game where combined 3/5 of your OL had like 4 nfl career starts and whole interior OL was starting for the first time. One of the worst OL games across the board for us all year long.
Mitchell was injured in the first quarter or so.

Yes Trey missed throws in that game. Yes he threw a pick and yet he was way down the list of reasons why we lost that game.

I dare you to go back and watch that game and pay attention to the pressure, OL play, field conditions and circumstances when passes weren't completed or drives stalled.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
You've said this a couple times now and I really don't understand it. I can't think of the rain impacting much of Brock's play in that game outside of his first pass attempt.

The team scored on 4 of 5 possessions in the first half for 16 points at halftime. Three field goals isn't the most efficient offense but 16 points is right in line with their 33 ppg scoring average with Brock as the starter. Ended up with 40 points and a blowout victory.

I would agree if you wanted to argue it actually wasn't the best we've seen him play, but he was playing well and the offense was great overall.

What game we talking about

Originally posted by krizay:
What game we talking about

Wild card round vs Seattle.

so we're expected to get 12 wins with Trey under center by the oddsmakers I see. But I'll just allow the Trey haters to bellyache all offseason while I look forward to this draft and enroll in Sunday Ticket to see the games at home I don't make in person

I'm enjoying this offseason knowing we have three young promising talents competing for QB1 although I'm waiting on Brock to re enter the fray once he's healthy

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

#49ers preseason win total for 2023 is set to 11.5.

Their O/U last season was 10.5 and they cleared that bar easily.

49ers have the best odds to win the NFC West and the NFC as of right now.

— Akash Anavarathan (@akashanav) March 25, 2023

so we're expected to get 12 wins with Trey under center by the oddsmakers I see. But I'll just allow the Trey haters to bellyache all offseason while I look forward to this draft and enroll in Sunday Ticket to see the games at home I don't make in person

I'm enjoying this offseason knowing we have three young promising talents competing for QB1 although I'm waiting on Brock to re enter the gray once he's healthy

Do yourself a favor and don't make bets if this is a legitimate takeaway. And don't mistake this comment for criticism of Trey either, lol.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
You've said this a couple times now and I really don't understand it. I can't think of the rain impacting much of Brock's play in that game outside of his first pass attempt.

The team scored on 4 of 5 possessions in the first half for 16 points at halftime. Three field goals isn't the most efficient offense but 16 points is right in line with their 33 ppg scoring average with Brock as the starter. Ended up with 40 points and a blowout victory.

I would agree if you wanted to argue it actually wasn't the best we've seen him play, but he was playing well and the offense was great overall.

I said it because people were talking about it being the worst game by Brock at the time before he went off in the 2nd half.

And it wasn't just the one throw. He had a couple that he's shown he usually makes that were very unBrock like.

The point wasn't to say Brock was bad - the results speak for themselves. It was to point out that the conditions made an impact on a rock as well and that game was nowhere near the situation Trey had to play in week 1.

It's simply a reminder to some here that while all QBs have to play in the rain eventually, there are levels to the rain and simply brushing it aside like it's no big deal isn't smart.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by elguapo:
Exactly. I love how some people neglect to state how good the Cowboys pass rush is and how poorly our offensive line played. Any quarterback would've done worse than Brock except maybe Mahomes and Allen. Purdy was so much better than we are used to and he's a damn rookie

Go watch our OL vs the bears weeks one. Pretty bad man. Trent was getting beat vs day 3 rookie edge rushers. That has nothing to do with Brock, just as fact of a WK1 football game.

So far it's the wr, OL, and weathers fault. Lol :/ poor Trey

Let's just say it's all true, Trey also played poorly. Please explain to me that int that secured the bears victory?

There is a big difference in saying Trey also played poorly while acknowledging the team overall played sloppy and shots themselves in the foot and saying Lance "stunk it up"….your words I'm pretty sure.

If you're going to evaluate QBs then how the team plays around them should 100% be taken into consideration. You have a young kid making his 3rd career start in weather conditions not ideal for any QB and his guys play sloppy…it won't go well for him.

Trey explained that pick. He felt he looked off Eddie Jackson enough and thought he could get the ball
in there. Obviously he didn't. He took full blame for it and a lot more even though anyone with eyes could tell the team let him down in that one when all offseason long they were supposed to be the ones helping him along as he developed.

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

#49ers preseason win total for 2023 is set to 11.5.

Their O/U last season was 10.5 and they cleared that bar easily.

49ers have the best odds to win the NFC West and the NFC as of right now.

— Akash Anavarathan (@akashanav) March 25, 2023

so we're expected to get 12 wins with Trey under center by the oddsmakers I see. But I'll just allow the Trey haters to bellyache all offseason while I look forward to this draft and enroll in Sunday Ticket to see the games at home I don't make in person

I'm enjoying this offseason knowing we have three young promising talents competing for QB1 although I'm waiting on Brock to re enter the gray once he's healthy

Who are they projecting as the qb? It's an honest question.

im not a Trey hater - just not a Trey believer. I want the guy to prove me wrong, there is a difference

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Do yourself a favor and don't make bets if this is a legitimate takeaway. And don't mistake this comment for criticism of Trey either, lol.

I learned in high school when I bet $150 with the local drug dealer on the 1992 NFCCG Dal Vs SF to not ever bet on another man aside from myself.

I've bet only on myself ever since and I've been winning since then. If I ain't able to decide the outcome I'm not betting on it. I do however enjoy the smack talk but I have to admit that here amongst Niner fans there's actually folk that will bet against the players on this team. I'd expect that from rival teams but if you'd have told me I could come here on a Niners forum and find detractors willing to bet on Niner players failing I would tell you that's hogwash.

I know better now

Originally posted by tankle104:
Who are they projecting as the qb? It's an honest question.

im not a Trey hater - just not a Trey believer. I want the guy to prove me wrong, there is a difference

Check Vegas odds and you'd find your answer. I've told you guys how this summer would play out prior to Brock's injury that we'd host a competition he'd be expected to win UNLESS he won the Super Bowl then Trey wouldn't even get to compete for the job

Once Brock got hurt I knew then that Trey would be favored to start because the injury gave Trey the leg up this offseason

We can have wishful thinking all we may but right now Trey is the odds on favorite to start week one. That would not be the case if Brock were able to compete for that job this offseason

Some of us have a very hard time admitting these things but I don't. I'm not betting on it though because I only bet on myself

Maiocco is as big a Purdy fan as I am but even he had to concede this : https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49ers/49ers-53-man-roster-way-too-early-look-group-2023-nfl-season