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Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
The "fans" wanting Trey to take Jimmy's job asap are the same ppl who will turn their backs on him as soon as he throws one inaccurate pass

Don't be such a negative Nancy.

You've posted here long enough to know he's probably right lol.

Patience is not a common thing around here.
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Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
The "fans" wanting Trey to take Jimmy's job asap are the same ppl who will turn their backs on him as soon as he throws one inaccurate pass

Don't be such a negative Nancy.

You've posted here long enough to know he's probably right lol.

Patience is not a common thing around here.

He might be right, but he may also be wrong. Why fill the forum with negativities.
Originally posted by Niners99:
Jimmy was 7 minutes from winning SB MVP. There is plenty blame to go around, but if our elite D had just held a 10 pt lead Jimmy is a SB champ. Or if the refs had called holding even 50% of the time it was happening.

But the refs Don't make those post season calls. That's how Harbaugh lost to his brother, who had his guys hold on every down. They won't call it more than two or three times in a game. We lost this SB because Kyle sat on the lead because he Does Not Trust Jimmy. Super Bowls are won by taking chances on offense, and Kyle just can't do that with Jimmy. That is why we got Lance. We're not going into the playoffs again with Jimmy, and showing the world we don't trust him by throwing 8 times against the Packers, even if it did work that one time, and gave the blueprint of what we will and won't do in the big one.
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 9moon:
well this is just DUMBER and based off no substance.. being athletic does NOT equal he CAN run an offense or is not a one read run QB only..



the point I'm making is that I'm NOT expecting Kyle " the greatest young mind in football " to force him to read the defense thoroughly, instead, design plays where LANCE will look for his initial target or take off..

Dude you're the one throwing out the stance that all he can handle is one read and run...if you actually watch what he was asked to do in college, you would understand that he can handle a little more than that. This isn't a RG3 coming from an air raid offense. It's arrogant assuming he can't do more.

FWIW over 70% of Jimmy's competitions were off his first read, in fact 66% of NFL completions last yr were on 1st reads.

.... that's why KS offense is a GIMMICK.... once that initial target is covered, you see our QBs get into trouble..

When I said that he'll be introduced to the league the way Michael Vick was, it meant that he will only be asked to look for THAT target... it has nothing to do with his intelligence, I wasn't insulting THE FUTURE ..
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Jimmy was 7 minutes from winning SB MVP. There is plenty blame to go around, but if our elite D had just held a 10 pt lead Jimmy is a SB champ. Or if the refs had called holding even 50% of the time it was happening.

But the refs Don't make those post season calls. That's how Harbaugh lost to his brother, who had his guys hold on every down. They won't call it more than two or three times in a game. We lost this SB because Kyle sat on the lead because he Does Not Trust Jimmy. Super Bowls are won by taking chances on offense, and Kyle just can't do that with Jimmy. That is why we got Lance. We're not going into the playoffs again with Jimmy, and showing the world we don't trust him by throwing 8 times against the Packers, even if it did work that one time, and gave the blueprint of what we will and won't do in the big one.

They call them for some teams...which is why the Ravens were getting calls against us just the drive prior to Crabtree not getting a call. The Chiefs were getting calls against us on the Kittle play and Moore PI.

Unfortunately you need a story in the NFL these days...I hope we have one ready to go when we're back in the playoffs or we simply play great enough that the refs can't possibly f**k us.

NFL twitter currently has Trey Lance as their background picture. Hopefully that means we'll actually get some loving from them for a change. God knows Jimmy wasn't drawing any flags when he was getting hit in the head or below the knee. Those hits on Mahomes or Tom Brady would be automatic forfeit for the other team.
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Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 9moon:
well this is just DUMBER and based off no substance.. being athletic does NOT equal he CAN run an offense or is not a one read run QB only..



the point I'm making is that I'm NOT expecting Kyle " the greatest young mind in football " to force him to read the defense thoroughly, instead, design plays where LANCE will look for his initial target or take off..

Dude you're the one throwing out the stance that all he can handle is one read and run...if you actually watch what he was asked to do in college, you would understand that he can handle a little more than that. This isn't a RG3 coming from an air raid offense. It's arrogant assuming he can't do more.

FWIW over 70% of Jimmy's competitions were off his first read, in fact 66% of NFL completions last yr were on 1st reads.

.... that's why KS offense is a GIMMICK.... once that initial target is covered, you see our QBs get into trouble..

When I said that he'll be introduced to the league the way Michael Vick was, it meant that he will only be asked to look for THAT target... it has nothing to do with his intelligence, I wasn't insulting THE FUTURE ..

Kyle's passing plays do not consist of just one read. If the QB is getting into trouble when the first read is covered it's not because that was the only read available. I don't know what your definition of gimmick is.
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Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Jimmy was 7 minutes from winning SB MVP. There is plenty blame to go around, but if our elite D had just held a 10 pt lead Jimmy is a SB champ. Or if the refs had called holding even 50% of the time it was happening.

But the refs Don't make those post season calls. That's how Harbaugh lost to his brother, who had his guys hold on every down. They won't call it more than two or three times in a game. We lost this SB because Kyle sat on the lead because he Does Not Trust Jimmy. Super Bowls are won by taking chances on offense, and Kyle just can't do that with Jimmy. That is why we got Lance. We're not going into the playoffs again with Jimmy, and showing the world we don't trust him by throwing 8 times against the Packers, even if it did work that one time, and gave the blueprint of what we will and won't do in the big one.

Yeah, we got to the Super Bowl by running the ball. The reason we lost the Super Bowl is because we lacked an elite passing attack. Hence, why we obtained Trey.
[ Edited by mayo49 on May 21, 2021 at 1:17 PM ]
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Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Jimmy was 7 minutes from winning SB MVP. There is plenty blame to go around, but if our elite D had just held a 10 pt lead Jimmy is a SB champ. Or if the refs had called holding even 50% of the time it was happening.

But the refs Don't make those post season calls. That's how Harbaugh lost to his brother, who had his guys hold on every down. They won't call it more than two or three times in a game. We lost this SB because Kyle sat on the lead because he Does Not Trust Jimmy. Super Bowls are won by taking chances on offense, and Kyle just can't do that with Jimmy. That is why we got Lance. We're not going into the playoffs again with Jimmy, and showing the world we don't trust him by throwing 8 times against the Packers, even if it did work that one time, and gave the blueprint of what we will and won't do in the big one.

Yeah, we got to the Super Bowl by running the ball and a minimal passing attack. The reason we lost the Super Bowl is because we lacked an elite passing attack. Hence, why we obtained Trey.

is this the same reason why KC lost to the BUCS?
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Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Jimmy was 7 minutes from winning SB MVP. There is plenty blame to go around, but if our elite D had just held a 10 pt lead Jimmy is a SB champ. Or if the refs had called holding even 50% of the time it was happening.

But the refs Don't make those post season calls. That's how Harbaugh lost to his brother, who had his guys hold on every down. They won't call it more than two or three times in a game. We lost this SB because Kyle sat on the lead because he Does Not Trust Jimmy. Super Bowls are won by taking chances on offense, and Kyle just can't do that with Jimmy. That is why we got Lance. We're not going into the playoffs again with Jimmy, and showing the world we don't trust him by throwing 8 times against the Packers, even if it did work that one time, and gave the blueprint of what we will and won't do in the big one.

Yeah, we got to the Super Bowl by running the ball and a minimal passing attack. The reason we lost the Super Bowl is because we lacked an elite passing attack. Hence, why we obtained Trey.

is this the same reason why KC lost to the BUCS?

KC's passing game in the Super Bowl wasn't elite, either.
[ Edited by mayo49 on May 21, 2021 at 1:30 PM ]
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Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Jimmy was 7 minutes from winning SB MVP. There is plenty blame to go around, but if our elite D had just held a 10 pt lead Jimmy is a SB champ. Or if the refs had called holding even 50% of the time it was happening.

But the refs Don't make those post season calls. That's how Harbaugh lost to his brother, who had his guys hold on every down. They won't call it more than two or three times in a game. We lost this SB because Kyle sat on the lead because he Does Not Trust Jimmy. Super Bowls are won by taking chances on offense, and Kyle just can't do that with Jimmy. That is why we got Lance. We're not going into the playoffs again with Jimmy, and showing the world we don't trust him by throwing 8 times against the Packers, even if it did work that one time, and gave the blueprint of what we will and won't do in the big one.

Yeah, we got to the Super Bowl by running the ball and a minimal passing attack. The reason we lost the Super Bowl is because we lacked an elite passing attack. Hence, why we obtained Trey.

is this the same reason why KC lost to the BUCS?

KC's passing game in the Super Bowl wasn't elite, either.

OK, so it's game to game then?

had they won with Mahomes throwing for 3 TDs, they then fall into having that ELITE PASSING ATTACK...

and since they lost, they didn't have IT that day ??

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Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Jimmy was 7 minutes from winning SB MVP. There is plenty blame to go around, but if our elite D had just held a 10 pt lead Jimmy is a SB champ. Or if the refs had called holding even 50% of the time it was happening.

But the refs Don't make those post season calls. That's how Harbaugh lost to his brother, who had his guys hold on every down. They won't call it more than two or three times in a game. We lost this SB because Kyle sat on the lead because he Does Not Trust Jimmy. Super Bowls are won by taking chances on offense, and Kyle just can't do that with Jimmy. That is why we got Lance. We're not going into the playoffs again with Jimmy, and showing the world we don't trust him by throwing 8 times against the Packers, even if it did work that one time, and gave the blueprint of what we will and won't do in the big one.

Yeah, we got to the Super Bowl by running the ball and a minimal passing attack. The reason we lost the Super Bowl is because we lacked an elite passing attack. Hence, why we obtained Trey.

is this the same reason why KC lost to the BUCS?

KC's passing game in the Super Bowl wasn't elite, either.

OK, so it's game to game then?

had they won with Mahomes throwing for 3 TDs, they then fall into having that ELITE PASSING ATTACK...

and since they lost, they didn't have IT that day ??


I don't know if it's game to game - but, their offense laid an egg and it cost them the game.
[ Edited by mayo49 on May 21, 2021 at 1:36 PM ]
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Jimmy was 7 minutes from winning SB MVP. There is plenty blame to go around, but if our elite D had just held a 10 pt lead Jimmy is a SB champ. Or if the refs had called holding even 50% of the time it was happening.

But the refs Don't make those post season calls. That's how Harbaugh lost to his brother, who had his guys hold on every down. They won't call it more than two or three times in a game. We lost this SB because Kyle sat on the lead because he Does Not Trust Jimmy. Super Bowls are won by taking chances on offense, and Kyle just can't do that with Jimmy. That is why we got Lance. We're not going into the playoffs again with Jimmy, and showing the world we don't trust him by throwing 8 times against the Packers, even if it did work that one time, and gave the blueprint of what we will and won't do in the big one.

Yeah, we got to the Super Bowl by running the ball and a minimal passing attack. The reason we lost the Super Bowl is because we lacked an elite passing attack. Hence, why we obtained Trey.

is this the same reason why KC lost to the BUCS?

Mahomes contract: $500,000,000/10 years. Brady's contract: $50,000,000/2 years. It's not going to get better for KC.
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Originally posted by 9moon:
.... that's why KS offense is a GIMMICK.... once that initial target is covered, you see our QBs get into trouble..

When I said that he'll be introduced to the league the way Michael Vick was, it meant that he will only be asked to look for THAT target... it has nothing to do with his intelligence, I wasn't insulting THE FUTURE ..

It's far from a gimmick, we Just need a QB who knows how to go through his progressions and read the D. Having protection helps too, Hopefully we get enough of that with our new draft picks.
When the KC defense started putting more pressure on Jimmy, he wasn't able to respond by rolling away from it. That's when the playmaker QBs like Mahomes and Wilson can make a difference. Even then, if the D is applying enough pressure and the DBs are covering everyone there isn't much any QB can do. I don't know if having a more mobile QB would have made a difference but it may have. It's no secret that it's easier to pressure a pocket passer than one that's a threat to run.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
When the KC defense started putting more pressure on Jimmy, he wasn't able to respond by rolling away from it. That's when the playmaker QBs like Mahomes and Wilson can make a difference. Even then, if the D is applying enough pressure and the DBs are covering everyone there isn't much any QB can do. I don't know if having a more mobile QB would have made a difference but it may have. It's no secret that it's easier to pressure a pocket passer than one that's a threat to run.

Being a playmaker QB did nothing for mahomes in last years super bowl though. If anything he hurt his team more by running side to side and backwards 30 yards before the play resulted in either a super minimal gain or a negative play. Moral of the story, if your pass rush is elite the QB may not even matter on the other side
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