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Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread
- Ezekiel38
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If playing him further would cause regression and not progression then you sit him. But I think he would only get better.
Who do you think the fans want to play in two weeks under the lights vs the Colts at home?
Not Jimmy.
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by dj43:
The discussion centers around what the proper balance would be. I thought there were more yards for Mitchell off RPO sets than what we saw. That would have opened things up more, IMO.
I agree with you that Lance does not have the timing down on shorter rhythm passes. Two of his blocks appeared to come on short passes where he was late with the throw. That will only come with experience.
The game plan went out the window when they were constantly getting flags. I've never seen so many holding callings in my life. Hard to get the running game and PA going when it's 1st-20
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
Simple fact is that IF THAT is the floor for Trey Lance he must start going forward.
If playing him further would cause regression and not progression then you sit him. But I think he would only get better.
Who do you think the fans want to play in two weeks under the lights vs the Colts at home?
Not Jimmy.
Agreed
- Afrikan
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In stride. Bullet..and maybe all spiral.
- jonnydel
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by thl408:
If Kyle goes full on "let's develop Trey" in week 5, that's a slap in the face to vet leaders like Trent Williams, Warner, Kittle. Besides game losses, the worst thing for a head coach is losing the locker room's vets. It doesn't matter how much Kyle wants to develop Trey, he cannot lose the vets in the locker room in week 6 of the season.
You mean the guys that SF just made the highest paid players at their position? I think they're gonna be just fine. Did those guys stop playing when Mullens/CJ were the starters?
maybe they realize that Jimmy vs Lance isn't this crazy thing like fans/media are making it out to be…the way Lance played yesterday showed those vets he's willing to do whatever to win.
Let's stop acting like Jimmy G is some pro-bowl QB and we're just tossing in the towel because he's not playing…
The offensive output yesterday only scored more points than ONE of Jimmy G's games. ONE out of 36 career starts and that was the mud-bowl monsoon game in Washington D.C. in 2019.
I'm not saying Lance is garbage, but that's Jimmy G throughout his entire career, an offense he runs scores more points than that in 35 out of 36 games. You cannot tell me that Lance gives us a better chance to win. Let's quit acting like jimmy G is just some bottom of the barrel starting option and we're just making a trade-off with Lance. This offense will score fewer points with Lance. I'm not blaming him for that. He's as young as Alex Smith was his rookie year and we all saw how rough that was. You're not gonna convince me that starting Lance from here on it is a decision based upon what gives us the best chance to win. If Kyle is making a decision based off anything else, yes, he is throwing in the towel on this season.
- Hysterikal
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Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
Simple fact is that IF THAT is the floor for Trey Lance he must start going forward.
If playing him further would cause regression and not progression then you sit him. But I think he would only get better.
Who do you think the fans want to play in two weeks under the lights vs the Colts at home?
Not Jimmy.
I'm scared that Lance will have a game where he dominates running the ball. Where he gets 150+ yards running and gets hyped for how unstoppable his read option is. I've seen that movie before and the ending sucked.
- thl408
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by thl408:
If Kyle goes full on "let's develop Trey" in week 5, that's a slap in the face to vet leaders like Trent Williams, Warner, Kittle. Besides game losses, the worst thing for a head coach is losing the locker room's vets. It doesn't matter how much Kyle wants to develop Trey, he cannot lose the vets in the locker room in week 6 of the season.
You mean the guys that SF just made the highest paid players at their position? I think they're gonna be just fine. Did those guys stop playing when Mullens/CJ were the starters?
maybe they realize that Jimmy vs Lance isn't this crazy thing like fans/media are making it out to be…the way Lance played yesterday showed those vets he's willing to do whatever to win.
Let's stop acting like Jimmy G is some pro-bowl QB and we're just tossing in the towel because he's not playing…
When CJ/Mullens played last season, it was because Jimmy was injured, not because he was benched. So those guys had no reason to stop playing since it wasn't a coach's decision to play CJ/Mullens over Jimmy.
It's possible I'm viewing the situation incorrectly, but if the vets feel that Jimmy is the QB that gives them the best chance to win, then that's a good enough reason for me to play Jimmy once he's healthy. If the offense continues to struggle with a healthy Jimmy, which is very possible, then switch it up to Lance. But let that situation play out. Now, if I'm reading it wrong and the general feeling is that the vets also like Lance because he also gives them an equal chance to win, then I'm making a fuss over nothing - play Lance.
- Afrikan
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So that is why what ever the coaches do, the players will be all in for... they believe in Kyle.
The only player who might have an issue is Justin Skule, for conspiracy reasons...somethin somethin... executive order from Biden to start Trey...bla bla.
- JTB1974
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- ramonalejandro
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Part of the reason the 49ers made this move was because Garoppolo gets hurt so much. So it's hard to say the plan has to be for Lance to stay on the sideline when it was inevitable and may continue to be that Garoppolo gets hurt. https://t.co/AoyDdqJupF
— Tim Kawakami (@timkawakami) October 11, 2021
- ramonalejandro
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I have zero problem with the arguments for Garoppolo to remain QB1. I won't attack that, other than to say there are more persuasive arguments, IMO, for Lance to take over now. The bye week is probably the best time to do it.
— Tim Kawakami (@timkawakami) October 11, 2021
- Furlow
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
100%. People want Trey developed for 2022, Kyle is fighting to win games. Cause that's his job.
His job is tied to Lance, that decision was made already…people care about winning now which is fine but how's that gonna be any different next yr? He's gonna be raw in regards to playing football now or next yr all the same. We gonna call kyle's head in 2022 if we don't win with a kid who will then not have played meaningful football games since 2019? What's the expectations then?
what if we continue to lose with Jimmy all the same this yr? Gotta ride it out with a guy that has no future here just because? He's not Brett Farve or even alex Smith in 2017.
He's not even Alex Smith in 2012.
- ramonalejandro
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You've decided Mac Jones is ready and better based on his 66.2 passer rating yesterday and the Patriots averaging 5.8 yards per play vs. a terrible Texans team? When the 49ers averaged 5.7 vs. Arizona? Again, argue what you want, but I've got arguments, too. https://t.co/18zX8e84EV
— Tim Kawakami (@timkawakami) October 11, 2021
- ramonalejandro
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And it's hard for me to buy an argument that Lance sitting more would help his development when he basically already sat all of 2020.
— Tim Kawakami (@timkawakami) October 11, 2021
- 49erFaithful6
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