Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by Faithful4ever:
That toss flea flicker thing we tried where Kittle was wide open and Jimmy G under threw it. Lance makes that throw and puts Kittle in the end zone. That's all I know. He probably can't make all the throws that Garrapalo can right now, but that play is a perfect example of why our offense is limited.

His massive under throw to a wide open Deebo calls that into question

It wasn't massive under throw lol. Why would he risk throwing that to Deebo in stride when there is no defender near by? Lol you've never played this game. You don't purposely make it more difficult for yourself or your receiver.

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by Faithful4ever:
That toss flea flicker thing we tried where Kittle was wide open and Jimmy G under threw it. Lance makes that throw and puts Kittle in the end zone. That's all I know. He probably can't make all the throws that Garrapalo can right now, but that play is a perfect example of why our offense is limited.

His massive under throw to a wide open Deebo calls that into question

The completion for a TD?

Originally posted by jcs:
I hope we scheme a game up against Arizona like NE did against Tampa. Don't force Lance to win us the game and just try to keep it close and let the game play out. Kid doesn't need to get destroyed trying to play hero ball if he's starting of course.

I think that's the plan, especially if Mitchell is back. We always seem to play AZ tough as well.

Originally posted by JTB1974:
I don't think it will matter what kind of game Trey has next week, His haters(Mac Jones fanboys) will find something to complain about. He could throw for over 300 yards with 3 TD's and zero INT's and his haters will look at the half dozen throws he missed or say it was only 1 game and defenses aren't familiar with him yet. I don't care how many bad throws he makes as a 21 year old rookie aslong as he is putting up points and not turning the ball over. If the Niners score 30+ points I don't care if makes 5 or 6 bad throws. I am going to live with the bad to get the great.

This isn't fantasy or madden. I could give a flying f**k about stats. I want to win. If he wins that's all that matters.

Originally posted by cjsmoove:
Can't wait till next week already!

It might not go as you think. This is gonna be tough for a rookie.

Originally posted by niners94:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by Faithful4ever:
That toss flea flicker thing we tried where Kittle was wide open and Jimmy G under threw it. Lance makes that throw and puts Kittle in the end zone. That's all I know. He probably can't make all the throws that Garrapalo can right now, but that play is a perfect example of why our offense is limited.

His massive under throw to a wide open Deebo calls that into question

No it doesn't.

Originally posted by Afrikan:
With Mac Jones' name being mentioned so much in this thread, I'm starting to believe some in here really wished we traded up two 1st round picks to get him.

Lance will exceed mac, book it.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
This isn't fantasy or madden. I could give a flying f**k about stats. I want to win. If he wins that's all that matters.

If you score 30+ points you should win. Especially if it includes not turning the ball over.

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by niners94:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by Faithful4ever:
That toss flea flicker thing we tried where Kittle was wide open and Jimmy G under threw it. Lance makes that throw and puts Kittle in the end zone. That's all I know. He probably can't make all the throws that Garrapalo can right now, but that play is a perfect example of why our offense is limited.

His massive under throw to a wide open Deebo calls that into question

No it doesn't.

He was wide open. You don't risk an overthrow in that situation.

Originally posted by Geeked:
At the end of the day, he plays on a different team. Plenty of people passed on him. And the only reason to talk about him now is to pacify ego in personal judgement. Mack Jones lost a game decided by field goals... Against a Defense that is about as destroyed in the backfield as the 49ers. Soooo, anyone that believes there's differentiation between him and the other 1st rounders is splitting hairs out of context.

110% this.

You literally cannot determine who the best and worst QB's of this past draft (1st round) are already. You could make a case for all five right now honestly.

We're not going to even start to know the answer for three years minimum. Anything before that is just reactionary nonsense. Up until halftime of the Jets/Titans game today, Zach Wilson looked like the worst rookie QB. Then the rest of the game happened and now people are crowning him as the best. It's ludicrous.

These guys are all going to play, they're all going to look shaky (already have), they're all going to flash (already have), they're all hopefully going to develop (this part has barely started), and they're all hopefully going to make adjustments as more and more tape of them comes out (we're not even remotely close to this part). Oh and we're going to see how they do in the clutch and high pressure games late in the season/January (this could be multiple seasons away for some of them).

To say "I called it!!!" right now in week 4 of the 2021 season is as ridiculous as it gets. We know next to nothing about how these guys will turn out. Other than they're with NFL teams and all have physical potential. That's it.

Lance threw a great ball to Kittle in the end zone. Wish that was caught. It's time for the Lance Vance Dance!

Trey might actually feel less pressure playing on the road.

Originally posted by JTB1974:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
This. There was no basis for taking lance 3rd except for his physical traits. Absolutely no proof that he could qb at the next level except the hope that his physical traits can translate. Until he can show he can lead a team and understand a complex defense, and have pocket awareness the way a qb should. I'll continue to have doubts. I hope he proves me wrong.

Lamar Jackson still hasn't learned pocket awareness and he won an MVP. Mahomes said it took him 3 years to read a defense. Cam Newton said he never had to learn to read a defense.

This is why i think he'll play well enough to keep Jimmy out. He doesn't have to be good at reading defenses yet. His legs will simplify defenses. Can escape pressure for easy yardage. As long as Kyle game plan to his strengths, we should be good.

Originally posted by eric_anthony:
Lance threw a great ball to Kittle in the end zone. Wish that was caught. It's time for the Lance Vance Dance!

It wasn't a great ball it was too high. Kittle got killed trying to jump up high enough to bring it down. Should have hit him in the numbers to be a great ball.

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by Faithful4ever:
That toss flea flicker thing we tried where Kittle was wide open and Jimmy G under threw it. Lance makes that throw and puts Kittle in the end zone. That's all I know. He probably can't make all the throws that Garrapalo can right now, but that play is a perfect example of why our offense is limited.

His massive under throw to a wide open Deebo calls that into question

Everyone under throws passes that are that wide open, because overthrowing it is the last thing you want to do. Jimmy under threw a similarly wide open throw to Goodwin a couple years ago. You don't want to end up on ESPN for overthrowing it when guys are that wide open.

Anyway, the reason why that play shows you that Trey opens up the offense is because his presence together with the formation is exactly why that play was so wide open. Everyone assumes the 49ers are throwing the deep ins. And that, along with the threat of the QB run, is why the safety high tailed it to the middle of the field, instead of staying back to watch Deebo.

This is what you Mac Jones fans don't get. It's not because Trey is a more advanced passer. It's because Trey simply being on the field changes how the defense defends, and what they can get away with. The run game magically started being better when Trey came in, for example. Why?

Trey's clearly not ready yet, but even when he's not ready, the offense can tread water, because of these peripheral effects of him being on the field. Of course this is dependent on personnel we face. And Trey is going to s**t the bed at some point if Jimmy is out for an extended period of time. But there will be great moments, and some of them will be caused simply because Trey threatens defenses in ways Jimmy does not.