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Phoenix49ers · 2020-11-01T18:52:13-08:00

I don't know why he doesn't have a thread already but along with Trask, if the 49ers were to draft a QB, I think he is a much more realistic option than guys like Fields and Wilson that are likely to go well before the 49ers pick. Mac Jones isn't as dynamic as Tua and he doesn't have the same ceiling but he's shown very good progress as a quarterback. He's a nice fit for a WCO or timing based passing offense, reasonably decisive and accurate, quick release, not the most mobile guy out there but able to avoid pressure adequately and he's improved his deep passing among other areas. Definitely a guy to keep an eye on. I do think his arm has more zip than Trask's and he's a little less hesitant to just let it rip but like Trask, he's also surrounded by a considerable amount of top notch talent on that offense so you wonder how much of a benefit that is providing him with overall. The Mac Jones deep ball has become one of the best plays in college football this year. pic.twitter.com/XYj6OkucLc— CBS Sports College Football 🏈 (@CBSSportsCFB) October 24, 2020Highest-graded QBs vs single-high man coverage:1? Mac Jones2? Zach Wilsonvs zone coverage:1? Zach Wilson2? Mac Jones pic.twitter.com/8Ri8ArOa7g— PFF College (@PFF_College) October 30, 2020Mac Jones to the Patriots 👀 https://t.co/WQlWN2r6YR— Boston Cream 🍩 (@itsbostoncream) October 28, 2020https://twitter.com/AlabamaDieHards/status/1322683994715160579 Personality wise, based on what I've seen and heard from Jones, I could see him clicking really well with Shanahan.

Apr 20, 2021 at 6:18 PM

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FL9er
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How does Jones compare to Jared Goff as a prospect?

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Apr 20, 2021 at 6:21 PM

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I feel like I'm living in the twilight zone... Mac Jones is by far the best passer out of the three and 49er fans are on suicide watch just because he's in the conversation

lol, there's people posting in here everyday repeating the same talking points... why don't you just admit that you don't want us to draft him because you don't think he's cool enough?

Apr 20, 2021 at 6:21 PM

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Originally posted by frenchmov:
Alex was a much better prospect coming out than Mac is, and the league gobbled him up. Alex was clearly one of the most intelligent players around, quick to process but he didn't have what it takes to become an elite QB. That is the Mac Jones future: smart guy, will be alright, have a decent alex-esque career. You should not settle for that at 3

Alex was not a much better prospect imo. He had a ton of question marks coming out of Urban Meyers spread. Alex would be behind all these guys this year imo.

Apr 20, 2021 at 6:22 PM

#11539

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Alex Smith would've been a great pick, if he had Shanahan calling plays for his first 4+ seasons

Apr 20, 2021 at 6:24 PM

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Originally posted by roasthawg:
Alex was not a much better prospect imo. He had a ton of question marks coming out of Urban Meyers spread. Alex would be behind all these guys this year imo.

Agreed.

Apr 20, 2021 at 6:26 PM

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roasthawg
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Originally posted by FL9er:
How does Jones compare to Jared Goff as a prospect?

Both accurate passers. Mac is ahead in terms of knowing where to go with the ball imo

Apr 20, 2021 at 6:36 PM

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Originally posted by DoseOfBosa:
I feel like I'm living in the twilight zone... Mac Jones is by far the best passer out of the three and 49er fans are on suicide watch just because he's in the conversation

lol, there's people posting in here everyday repeating the same talking points... why don't you just admit that you don't want us to draft him because you don't think he's cool enough?

If he's so far ahead, why isn't he in the conversation at #1 or #2? if we pass do you think he's going 4 or is he going to slide? I don't see him as by far greater than the other top guys like Lawrence, Wilson, Fields at anything, including passing. Thats why I don't want him.

Apr 20, 2021 at 6:45 PM

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Originally posted by 1swift:
Based on what, exactly?...they have eerily similar college careers especially considering the talent around them.

i don't see it

MWC versus the SEC would be the first issue.

The second would be a PE of 164 (in the MWC versus 203 (in the SEC and championship post season).

Hell Smith at 3500ish total yards passing AND rushing compared to Mac's 4500 yards in the air in a shortened Season. ( he was on pace for 5300 yards and 50 TDs)

Their college careers were nothing alike. Two very different conferences, two very different teams, and two very different QBs.

Apr 20, 2021 at 6:46 PM

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Jones is the type of QB that the Niners defense has owned. So not sure why Kyle would want that QB on his team.

Apr 20, 2021 at 6:49 PM

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Dshearn
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Originally posted by frenchmov:
Alex was a much better prospect coming out than Mac

You got about one more of those before i stop reading your post in my head with my grown up voice....

Smith was atop of a subpar draft, and clearly was not the best QB in that draft (and it was not even close). Plus he was coming from a Gimmick System from the MWC. The dude might not even be a second rounder in this draft.

Apr 20, 2021 at 6:50 PM

#11546

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Originally posted by 1swift:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by 1swift:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by frenchmov:
Alex was a much better prospect coming out than Mac is, and the league gobbled him up. Alex was clearly one of the most intelligent players around, quick to process but he didn't have what it takes to become an elite QB. That is the Mac Jones future: smart guy, will be alright, have a decent alex-esque career. You should not settle for that at 3

Alex lacked the killer instinct that I think Mac might have.

Based on what, exactly?...they have eerily similar college careers especially considering the talent around them.

To begin with Alex wasn't really a deep ball threat in college. Mac Jones was. His deep ball accuracy made his #1 WR into a Heisman winner.

He also is among the leaders of the prospects in check downs and behind the LOS throws...sure he threw deep as did Alex when he had a guy absolutely wide open but do we really know his risk profile?

Sorry, but that is blatantly untrue. Mac Jones threw downfield as good as anyone in college football in 2020.

https://sportsinfosolutionsblog.com/2020/12/31/top-college-deep-ball-passers-in-2020/amp/

Apr 20, 2021 at 6:51 PM

#11547

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Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by 1swift:
Based on what, exactly?...they have eerily similar college careers especially considering the talent around them.

i don't see it

MWC versus the SEC would be the first issue.

The second would be a PE of 164 (in the MWC versus 203 (in the SEC and championship post season).

Hell Smith at 3500ish total yards passing AND rushing compared to Mac's 4500 yards in the air in a shortened Season. ( he was on pace for 5300 yards and 50 TDs)

Their college careers were nothing alike. Two very different conferences, two very different teams, and two very different QBs.

The careers aren't alike but their profiles are similar. Not to forget that Alex was what, 2 years younger than Mac is right now when he was drafted. The comparison is pretty good

Apr 20, 2021 at 6:53 PM

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Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by frenchmov:
Alex was a much better prospect coming out than Mac

You got about one more of those before i stop reading your post in my head with my grown up voice....

Smith was atop of a subpar draft, and clearly was not the best QB in that draft (and it was not even close). Plus he was coming from a Gimmick System from the MWC. The dude might not even be a second rounder in this draft.

Hmm, sounds familiar.

Alex would definitely go ahead of Jones in this draft though. He was more intelligent and an even more elite processor with actual mobility. He'd probably be the 4th QB off the board.

[ Edited by 49ersRing on Apr 20, 2021 at 6:53 PM ]

Apr 20, 2021 at 6:54 PM

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Dshearn
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Originally posted by 1swift:
The careers aren't alike but their profiles are similar. Not to forget that Alex was what, 2 years younger than Mac is right now when he was drafted. The comparison is pretty good

Sorry i saw careers and thats what i stopped on.....

That is a really good point though.........

I keep forgetting that Mac is older.... We don't know what Alex would have looked like with 3 years in a system...we didn't see that until after he was injured. Circumstance really does matter.

Apr 20, 2021 at 6:56 PM

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Originally posted by Dshearn:
You got about one more of those before i stop reading your post in my head with my grown up voice....

Smith was atop of a subpar draft, and clearly was not the best QB in that draft (and it was not even close). Plus he was coming from a Gimmick System from the MWC. The dude might not even be a second rounder in this draft.

Lol Alex smith absolutely was better than Mac coming out. I don't see why this upsets you