Zach Wilson, QB, Denver Broncos | Page 115

CaliWG · 2020-10-13T09:08:23-07:00

This guy has been flying up draft boards this year. Good size (6'3"/210). Strong, accurate arm. Moves around really well and throws well on the move. Plays significant snaps under center and is very effective in both the straight play action game and boots (huge for a QB in Kyle's system). Beautiful mechanics but isn't mechanical, he can deliver the ball from many different arm angles as needed for a given throw. He's also effective throwing the ball to all different levels: deep, intermediate, short, and in the screen game. This is the type of QB I could see Lynch & Shanahan falling in love with for Kyle's offense. Andre Ware was gushing over him with the throws he was making and Tom Luginbill was comparing him to Patrick Mahomes with his ability to move around, play off script, and deliver the ball in so many different ways. Weaknesses seem to be that he can be overly aggressive in his decision making both running the ball and pushing the ball downfield when it would be more prudent to check the ball down. And he's struggled with injuries up until this season. After two consecutive sold gains in the run game, this! Play action pass, TE wheel. Carter Wheat hauls in the perfectly thrown ball from Zach Wilson. Carter high points the ball for the TD reception. Great incremental play calling from coaches and execution from players. You'll be seeing THIS THROW on Zach Wilson's NFL draft highlight reel. This is a Zach Wilson throw. This is an NFL throw. What a throw by Zach Wilson. Zach Wilson *6tot tds,1int,624yds passing in 2 blowout W's so far *One of the more exciting QB's to watch in CFB & has the ability to fit the ball in tight windows & make every throw. I know my guy Play action deep post from Zach Wilson to Gunner Romney. Beautiful throw and even better catch by Gunner laying out to make the grab. Just short of the TD. Play action deep post from Zach Wilson to Gunner Romney. Beautiful throw and even better catch by Gunner laying out to make the grab. Just short of the TD. QB Zach Wilson (BYU) flashes pure talent and fun 1. Wilson making a BIG BOY throw for the TD 2. Wilson escaping like vintage Manziel and finding his WR downfield I'm ready to start talking about BYU QB Zach Wilson as a first-rounder Zach Wilson hive.

Dec 14, 2020 at 9:43 PM

#1711

5_Golden_Rings
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Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Gonna be pissed off outta my mind if Shanahan passes on Zach Wilson. I don't think there is any other position in this draft I could pass up Wilson for!!! The only player that I'd draft over Wilson without even thinking about it is Trevor Lawrence of course. Ask this in three months and my answer will still be the same IDGAF about who's stock has risen during the Senior Bowl and Combine.

How can he pass on someone he won't even be in position for us to get? That's like being mad we "passed" on Patrick Peterson in 2011.

Your optimism is touching.

(or pessimism, if you mean we'll lose and still get too high a draft pick)

Dec 14, 2020 at 10:12 PM

#1712

9moon
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WSUPPP FELLAS !!

You know, the QB that remind me of Wilson, and I'm talking about his mechanics only, is actually JAY CUTLER... he may not have the same GUN as Cutler, but the way he moves around and the way he releases the football..

.. and I'm not bashing the Wilson, because Cutler was really good at Vandy but just watch this kid, his drop backs, the way he stands there in the pocket..

Dec 14, 2020 at 10:49 PM

#1713

Bitplayer
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Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Bitplayer:
But they should of spanked them imo. Carolina had just as much prep time as they did and they- he- let the game dissolve into a pissing match rather than a boat race.

And yes I know he has all the throws but so does Kirk Cousins, Trubisky, Haskins, etc etc.

I dunno maybe Im just thinking BYU is a soft team atm but he is their captain and its a possible cause for concern.

Mahomes his last yr at Texas tech he lost to

AZ state
Kansas state
Oklahoma
West Virginia
Texas
Oklahoma state
Iowa state

I don't think anyone questioned his leadership? BYU is not a good team overall. Coastal Carolina is currently No. 9 in the country, why should they have spanked them?

Hmmm interesting question. I think they should of easily beat carolina for a couple of reasons. Mostly coaching. One of their main tactics going into the game seemed to be cheap shot BYU out of their game. Which- surprisingly- worked extremely well but has next to no chance of working against more focused teams imo..

Carolina also dont seem to be all that disciplined or- again- well coached. With one example being not playing to the whistle and allowing a receiver to just run down the sideline. Another being that I saw their dbs look over to the sidelines a few times with no clue where they were supposed to line up well before a play.

Couple that with having a qb who seems to be only able to throw ducks limiting your offense and I think you can see what im thinking. I know their running game is good but....

Anyways Im not trying to be contrary here. Just trying to figure out who I want as the niners next qb

Dec 15, 2020 at 2:43 AM

#1714

adrianlesnar
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Originally posted by krizay:
Interesting choice of player to make your point.

I've disagreed with my fair share of NY's posts (I almost muted him during the 2017 draft on multiple occasions), but can we please not go another entire offseason/draft cycle with you seeking out and calling out every single one of his posts?!

Dec 15, 2020 at 3:57 AM

#1715

NYniner85
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Originally posted by rtj03:
Rosen threw a real pretty ball at UCLA. Natural thrower of the ball.

How athletic? Aaron Rodgers athletic?

Probably the only thing I didn't like is that he looked very small framed. 49ers have me terrified of injuries. We have too many every year.

I'd say at least Rogers athletic.

He's 6-3 210-215...Around the same size as Watson and Carr. That was kinda my comp a more athletic bigger arm Derrick Carr, shanny was a fan of him coming out of the draft.

Size is however a negative, so I get that.

[ Edited by NYniner85 on Dec 15, 2020 at 3:57 AM ]

Dec 15, 2020 at 4:04 AM

#1716

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Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
I've disagreed with my fair share of NY's posts (I almost muted him during the 2017 draft on multiple occasions), but can we please not go another entire offseason/draft cycle with you seeking out and calling out every single one of his posts?!

Think I'm just gonna ignore his post when it comes to QBs...No hate, but he clearly always has an issue with my opinions in the draft forums.

No doubt I can be pretty passionate in here lol. I enjoy the draft process and evaluating players more than anything else here. Same with you I think. Sorry if I was a bit much back in 2017

New Years resolution, tone it down a notch lol

Dec 15, 2020 at 4:06 AM

#1717

NYniner85
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Originally posted by Bitplayer:
Hmmm interesting question. I think they should of easily beat carolina for a couple of reasons. Mostly coaching. One of their main tactics going into the game seemed to be cheap shot BYU out of their game. Which- surprisingly- worked extremely well but has next to no chance of working against more focused teams imo..

Carolina also dont seem to be all that disciplined or- again- well coached. With one example being not playing to the whistle and allowing a receiver to just run down the sideline. Another being that I saw their dbs look over to the sidelines a few times with no clue where they were supposed to line up well before a play.

Couple that with having a qb who seems to be only able to throw ducks limiting your offense and I think you can see what im thinking. I know their running game is good but....

Anyways Im not trying to be contrary here. Just trying to figure out who I want as the niners next qb

All good dude. There's a handful of higher quality QB draft prospects...looking like a good draft class which is good for us.

Dec 15, 2020 at 5:14 AM

#1718

Gabberwocky
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
I've disagreed with my fair share of NY's posts (I almost muted him during the 2017 draft on multiple occasions), but can we please not go another entire offseason/draft cycle with you seeking out and calling out every single one of his posts?!

Think I'm just gonna ignore his post when it comes to QBs...No hate, but he clearly always has an issue with my opinions in the draft forums.

No doubt I can be pretty passionate in here lol. I enjoy the draft process and evaluating players more than anything else here. Same with you I think. Sorry if I was a bit much back in 2017

New Years resolution, tone it down a notch lol

Indeed. An lowering of the temperature, as President-elect Biden would say.

Dec 15, 2020 at 5:21 AM

#1719

Gabberwocky
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Originally posted by rtj03:
Help me to fall in love with Wilson. I saw him play this past Saturday. Good but not heaven sent. He has a nice release. I think he's more athletic and probably not as melancholy but he reminded me of josh Rosen at UCLA.

Not trying to bash him but asking why is he so perfect?

Herr Rosen may have been talent, but he had the attitude of an Charlie Horse that is inebriated and wears the shoes of the Clowns.

Dec 15, 2020 at 5:28 AM

#1720

titan
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Originally posted by Gabberwocky:
Originally posted by rtj03:
Help me to fall in love with Wilson. I saw him play this past Saturday. Good but not heaven sent. He has a nice release. I think he's more athletic and probably not as melancholy but he reminded me of josh Rosen at UCLA.

Not trying to bash him but asking why is he so perfect?

Herr Rosen may have been talent, but he had the attitude of an Charlie Horse that is inebriated and wears the shoes of the Clowns.

Problem with Rosen is he thought he was Rodgers status coming out of college already and he was gonna make everyone that passed on him pay cause he was so awesome...while making his smug duck face he makes all the time.

Dec 15, 2020 at 7:01 AM

#1721

genus49
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Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by genus49:
lol don't you start misreading what i said in the draft section now.

Was talking more about Wilson/Lance aka the guys who weren't considered studs at the top for multiple seasons now.

Yo I'm not trying to start a debate, I'm just saying Fields has been a top end talent since coming out of HS. 39 offers from every top school, him and Lawrence were neck and neck as the nations top QB and overall top recruit in the country.

Kid is a stud...I don't see Wilson or Lance over taking him at all. That was more my point. Lynch was never regarded like Fields has been.

Was a joke brother...breathe lol.

I agree Lawrence/Fields are cream of the crop. I was speaking about Wilson/Lance in terms of their stock may fluctuate similar to Paxton.

Lawrence and Fields have been guys who were considered top 2 before the season started and haven't done anything to change that. Guys like Paxton Lynch who kind of climb to the top out of nowhere(or little notoriety) have a tendency to get dropped down the draft boards when picked apart during the draft process but as mentioned sometimes some guys get bumped up.

But I agree IMO Lawrence/Fields are easily the top 2 guys and that shouldn't change.

Dec 15, 2020 at 7:10 AM

#1722

NYniner85
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Originally posted by genus49:
Was a joke brother...breathe lol.

I agree Lawrence/Fields are cream of the crop. I was speaking about Wilson/Lance in terms of their stock may fluctuate similar to Paxton.

Lawrence and Fields have been guys who were considered top 2 before the season started and haven't done anything to change that. Guys like Paxton Lynch who kind of climb to the top out of nowhere(or little notoriety) have a tendency to get dropped down the draft boards when picked apart during the draft process but as mentioned sometimes some guys get bumped up.

But I agree IMO Lawrence/Fields are easily the top 2 guys and that shouldn't change.

Dec 15, 2020 at 8:12 AM

#1723

Gabberwocky
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by genus49:
Was a joke brother...breathe lol.

I agree Lawrence/Fields are cream of the crop. I was speaking about Wilson/Lance in terms of their stock may fluctuate similar to Paxton.

Lawrence and Fields have been guys who were considered top 2 before the season started and haven't done anything to change that. Guys like Paxton Lynch who kind of climb to the top out of nowhere(or little notoriety) have a tendency to get dropped down the draft boards when picked apart during the draft process but as mentioned sometimes some guys get bumped up.

But I agree IMO Lawrence/Fields are easily the top 2 guys and that shouldn't change.

Dec 15, 2020 at 8:16 AM

#1724

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Dec 15, 2020 at 8:30 AM

#1725

Rathof44
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Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
I've disagreed with my fair share of NY's posts (I almost muted him during the 2017 draft on multiple occasions), but can we please not go another entire offseason/draft cycle with you seeking out and calling out every single one of his posts?!

Think I'm just gonna ignore his post when it comes to QBs...No hate, but he clearly always has an issue with my opinions in the draft forums.

No doubt I can be pretty passionate in here lol. I enjoy the draft process and evaluating players more than anything else here. Same with you I think. Sorry if I was a bit much back in 2017

New Years resolution, tone it down a notch lol

You're passionate about the 49ers, as are most of us. Don't worry about it.