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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Pettis!

This is great news! Gonna say this again, I just don't see how Pettis makes the final 53. Now, with the signing of Jennings, a 7th rounder, to a 4 year deal I am guaranteeing that that Pettis won't make the 53. Remember, most here had Jennings on the practice squad. I had him making the team the day of the draft. In a normal WR draft I don't think Jennings would have gotten out of the 4th or 5th round.
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Pettis!

This is great news! Gonna say this again, I just don't see how Pettis makes the final 53. Now, with the signing of Jennings, a 7th rounder, to a 4 year deal I am guaranteeing that that Pettis won't make the 53. Remember, most here had Jennings on the practice squad. I had him making the team the day of the draft. In a normal WR draft I don't think Jennings would have gotten out of the 4th or 5th round.

Jennings is slow as molasses. I am cautiously optimistic that his college ability can translate to NFL ability. We have linemen that would smoke him in a race.

Still think Pettis is going to make the team. He has a lot of attributes that anyone would want in a WR. I know he was useless last year, but unless we can find a place to trade him, we wont just cut him.
Just being able to see what he can do in camp when the ball is coming his way...
[ Edited by qnnhan7 on Jun 24, 2020 at 10:26 AM ]
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Pettis!

This is great news! Gonna say this again, I just don't see how Pettis makes the final 53. Now, with the signing of Jennings, a 7th rounder, to a 4 year deal I am guaranteeing that that Pettis won't make the 53. Remember, most here had Jennings on the practice squad. I had him making the team the day of the draft. In a normal WR draft I don't think Jennings would have gotten out of the 4th or 5th round.

Did we think he wouldn't sign somehow?

Considering Deebo and James(doubt he was making the roster) are hurt and will be out all camp/preseason Dante definitely has a chance to rebound and make the roster.

I hope he does.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Pettis!

This is great news! Gonna say this again, I just don't see how Pettis makes the final 53. Now, with the signing of Jennings, a 7th rounder, to a 4 year deal I am guaranteeing that that Pettis won't make the 53. Remember, most here had Jennings on the practice squad. I had him making the team the day of the draft. In a normal WR draft I don't think Jennings would have gotten out of the 4th or 5th round.

Jennings is slow as molasses. I am cautiously optimistic that his college ability can translate to NFL ability. We have linemen that would smoke him in a race.

Still think Pettis is going to make the team. He has a lot of attributes that anyone would want in a WR. I know he was useless last year, but unless we can find a place to trade him, we wont just cut him.

Fare enough. But I have to ask: How/where do you see him fitting? The way I see it the only way Pettis makes this team is if we carry 8 WR's, which isn't happening at all. We'll likely carry 6, maybe 7 WR's. 6 of those are locks (or near locks):

Deebo (lock)
Aiyuk (lock)
Bourne (lock)
Hurd (lock)
Jennings (lock)
Taylor (near lock)
Benjamin/Finke

I'm sorry, I just don't see how Pettis fits. Benjamin or Finke will make it over Pettis, and if I had to bet I'd say Benjamin would win the last spot. (Finke isn't lasting on the PS.) If we can't trade Pettis before the cut day he will released. This team is way too close; so I don't envision Lynch and Shanny tolerate carrying an unproductive WR on the roster to just collect checks. Pettis has been just too unproductive to justify a 2020 roster spot.
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Fare enough. But I have to ask: How/where do you see him fitting? The way I see it the only way Pettis makes this team is if we carry 8 WR's, which isn't happening at all. We'll likely carry 6, maybe 7 WR's. 6 of those are locks (or near locks):

Deebo (lock)
Aiyuk (lock)
Bourne (lock)
Hurd (lock)
Jennings (lock)
Taylor (near lock)
Benjamin/Finke

I'm sorry, I just don't see how Pettis fits. Benjamin or Finke will make it over Pettis, and if I had to bet I'd say Benjamin would win the last spot. (Finke isn't lasting on the PS.) If we can't trade Pettis before the cut day he will released. This team is way too close; so I don't envision Lynch and Shanny tolerate carrying an unproductive WR on the roster to just collect checks. Pettis has been just too unproductive to justify a 2020 roster spot.

Jennings isn't a lock to make the team. All he did was signed his rookie deal he could very well be cut or put on the PS (which is bigger now with the new CBA).

Pettis and Jennings won't lineup on the same spot. Jennings is a slot WR, Pettis can actually play on the outside. Benji and finke have by far a bigger uphill battle to make the roster vs Pettis imo.

With all that said I do like Jennings, hope he makes the team...he's not a lock though.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Jun 24, 2020 at 11:44 AM ]
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Fare enough. But I have to ask: How/where do you see him fitting? The way I see it the only way Pettis makes this team is if we carry 8 WR's, which isn't happening at all. We'll likely carry 6, maybe 7 WR's. 6 of those are locks (or near locks):

Deebo (lock)
Aiyuk (lock)
Bourne (lock)
Hurd (lock)
Jennings (lock)
Taylor (near lock)
Benjamin/Finke

I'm sorry, I just don't see how Pettis fits. Benjamin or Finke will make it over Pettis, and if I had to bet I'd say Benjamin would win the last spot. (Finke isn't lasting on the PS.) If we can't trade Pettis before the cut day he will released. This team is way too close; so I don't envision Lynch and Shanny tolerate carrying an unproductive WR on the roster to just collect checks. Pettis has been just too unproductive to justify a 2020 roster spot.

I would hardly call Jennings a lock. He's a seventh round draft pick who looked painfully slow even in his college tape where players aren't as consistently fast as they are in the NFL. That you would have him making the team, perhaps over Taylor, is just, misguided. If Taylor is healthy he will make the team this year. I don't think that is a point that can be realistically argued. Depending on how Samuel's foot heals he may not even be available to start the season which is where one of the bubble guys might have an opportunity to stick around for a few extra weeks. I imagine the WR group will be Samuel, Bourne, Hurd, Taylor, and Aiyuk for sure with everyone else fighting for however many spots are left.
Depends on how he shows up at camp. He has had conditioning issues in the past. It was said he was somewhat winded running the 40 at the combine.

I think he has too much talent to not make the team, but we have no idea what his work ethic is going to look like at the pro-level. Often we can assume guys will bring their A game...in this case we cant.

Having said that, i think he can be absolutely stellar in the NFL. He does not have a sprinters form or foot work, his time is about as real world as it gets, he runs track like a WR. He never really got his weight off his front foot at the combine.

If he got in NFL shape, and really worked with a track coach...it would not shock me if he could run a high 4.5 or a low 4.6. So yeah the 40 time does not bother me.

The right question to ask, will JJ be 100% sold on being the best 49er WR he can be.

Again, i think he earns a spot on the 49ers and i think he could end up a house hold name...he has that much talent.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Fare enough. But I have to ask: How/where do you see him fitting? The way I see it the only way Pettis makes this team is if we carry 8 WR's, which isn't happening at all. We'll likely carry 6, maybe 7 WR's. 6 of those are locks (or near locks):

Deebo (lock)
Aiyuk (lock)
Bourne (lock)
Hurd (lock)
Jennings (lock)
Taylor (near lock)
Benjamin/Finke

I'm sorry, I just don't see how Pettis fits. Benjamin or Finke will make it over Pettis, and if I had to bet I'd say Benjamin would win the last spot. (Finke isn't lasting on the PS.) If we can't trade Pettis before the cut day he will released. This team is way too close; so I don't envision Lynch and Shanny tolerate carrying an unproductive WR on the roster to just collect checks. Pettis has been just too unproductive to justify a 2020 roster spot.

Jennings isn't a lock to make the team. All he did was signed his rookie deal he could very well be cut or put on the PS (which is bigger now with the new CBA).

Pettis and Jennings won't lineup on the same spot. Jennings is a slot WR, Pettis can actually play on the outside. Benji and finke have by far a bigger uphill battle to make the roster vs Pettis imo.

With all that said I do like Jennings, hope he makes the team...he's not a lock though.

Well, IMHO, we're not signing a guy to a 4 year contract, at a position of real need no less, only to give him away to the practice squad so some other team can sign him.

Mark my words here, Jennings will make this team, but Pettis won't, and shouldn't.
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Fare enough. But I have to ask: How/where do you see him fitting? The way I see it the only way Pettis makes this team is if we carry 8 WR's, which isn't happening at all. We'll likely carry 6, maybe 7 WR's. 6 of those are locks (or near locks):

Deebo (lock)
Aiyuk (lock)
Bourne (lock)
Hurd (lock)
Jennings (lock)
Taylor (near lock)
Benjamin/Finke

I'm sorry, I just don't see how Pettis fits. Benjamin or Finke will make it over Pettis, and if I had to bet I'd say Benjamin would win the last spot. (Finke isn't lasting on the PS.) If we can't trade Pettis before the cut day he will released. This team is way too close; so I don't envision Lynch and Shanny tolerate carrying an unproductive WR on the roster to just collect checks. Pettis has been just too unproductive to justify a 2020 roster spot.

Jennings isn't a lock to make the team. All he did was signed his rookie deal he could very well be cut or put on the PS (which is bigger now with the new CBA).

Pettis and Jennings won't lineup on the same spot. Jennings is a slot WR, Pettis can actually play on the outside. Benji and finke have by far a bigger uphill battle to make the roster vs Pettis imo.

With all that said I do like Jennings, hope he makes the team...he's not a lock though.

Well, IMHO, we're not signing a guy to a 4 year contract, at a position of real need no less, only to give him away to the practice squad so some other team can sign him.

Mark my words here, Jennings will make this team, but Pettis won't, and shouldn't.

I thought all drafted rookies are guaranteed a 4 year contract and 1st round rookies have a built in 5th year option. Many players get put on the practice squad after signing their contract.
Originally posted by tommyncal:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Fare enough. But I have to ask: How/where do you see him fitting? The way I see it the only way Pettis makes this team is if we carry 8 WR's, which isn't happening at all. We'll likely carry 6, maybe 7 WR's. 6 of those are locks (or near locks):

Deebo (lock)
Aiyuk (lock)
Bourne (lock)
Hurd (lock)
Jennings (lock)
Taylor (near lock)
Benjamin/Finke

I'm sorry, I just don't see how Pettis fits. Benjamin or Finke will make it over Pettis, and if I had to bet I'd say Benjamin would win the last spot. (Finke isn't lasting on the PS.) If we can't trade Pettis before the cut day he will released. This team is way too close; so I don't envision Lynch and Shanny tolerate carrying an unproductive WR on the roster to just collect checks. Pettis has been just too unproductive to justify a 2020 roster spot.

Jennings isn't a lock to make the team. All he did was signed his rookie deal he could very well be cut or put on the PS (which is bigger now with the new CBA).

Pettis and Jennings won't lineup on the same spot. Jennings is a slot WR, Pettis can actually play on the outside. Benji and finke have by far a bigger uphill battle to make the roster vs Pettis imo.

With all that said I do like Jennings, hope he makes the team...he's not a lock though.

Well, IMHO, we're not signing a guy to a 4 year contract, at a position of real need no less, only to give him away to the practice squad so some other team can sign him.

Mark my words here, Jennings will make this team, but Pettis won't, and shouldn't.

I thought all drafted rookies are guaranteed a 4 year contract and 1st round rookies have a built in 5th year option. Many players get put on the practice squad after signing their contract.
Players that are on the PS go through waivers first, then can be signed by any team as the season goes on.

So Jennings or any player would need to get cut/contract terminated before the final roster, then get resigned to practice squad i believe ?
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by tommyncal:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Fare enough. But I have to ask: How/where do you see him fitting? The way I see it the only way Pettis makes this team is if we carry 8 WR's, which isn't happening at all. We'll likely carry 6, maybe 7 WR's. 6 of those are locks (or near locks):

Deebo (lock)
Aiyuk (lock)
Bourne (lock)
Hurd (lock)
Jennings (lock)
Taylor (near lock)
Benjamin/Finke

I'm sorry, I just don't see how Pettis fits. Benjamin or Finke will make it over Pettis, and if I had to bet I'd say Benjamin would win the last spot. (Finke isn't lasting on the PS.) If we can't trade Pettis before the cut day he will released. This team is way too close; so I don't envision Lynch and Shanny tolerate carrying an unproductive WR on the roster to just collect checks. Pettis has been just too unproductive to justify a 2020 roster spot.

Jennings isn't a lock to make the team. All he did was signed his rookie deal he could very well be cut or put on the PS (which is bigger now with the new CBA).

Pettis and Jennings won't lineup on the same spot. Jennings is a slot WR, Pettis can actually play on the outside. Benji and finke have by far a bigger uphill battle to make the roster vs Pettis imo.

With all that said I do like Jennings, hope he makes the team...he's not a lock though.

Well, IMHO, we're not signing a guy to a 4 year contract, at a position of real need no less, only to give him away to the practice squad so some other team can sign him.

Mark my words here, Jennings will make this team, but Pettis won't, and shouldn't.

I thought all drafted rookies are guaranteed a 4 year contract and 1st round rookies have a built in 5th year option. Many players get put on the practice squad after signing their contract.
Players that are on the PS go through waivers first, then can be signed by any team as the season goes on.

So Jennings or any player would need to get cut/contract terminated before the final roster, then get resigned to practice squad i believe ?

So, drafted players sign 4 year contracts based on their drafted position. If they make the 53, that's their contract. If they don't make the 53, then their contract is terminated? Then are all of these non-53 players, from all teams, eligible to choose which team's practice squad they want to sing with ? Does the team that drafted a certain player have '1st rights' to their drafted player?
Originally posted by tommyncal:
So, drafted players sign 4 year contracts based on their drafted position. If they make the 53, that's their contract. If they don't make the 53, then their contract is terminated? Then are all of these non-53 players, from all teams, eligible to choose which team's practice squad they want to sing with ? Does the team that drafted a certain player have '1st rights' to their drafted player?
correct on the original contact. The players that have been cut can only choose which PS to be on, is if they get offered a PS spot by whichever team.

Rights are lost when cut.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by tommyncal:
So, drafted players sign 4 year contracts based on their drafted position. If they make the 53, that's their contract. If they don't make the 53, then their contract is terminated? Then are all of these non-53 players, from all teams, eligible to choose which team's practice squad they want to sing with ? Does the team that drafted a certain player have '1st rights' to their drafted player?
correct on the original contact. The players that have been cut can only choose which PS to be on, is if they get offered a PS spot by whichever team.

Rights are lost when cut.
Thanks
That makes trying to get a player on the practice squad a bit risky. I guess they could ask him if he would leave for another team if offered
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