"3rd and Jauan" Jennings l WR Tennessee, signs with Vikings

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Bluesbro:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
He's way better than Pearsall, it's not even close.

He is as of now. Until Persall proves it and he might. But on this date yes you would say Jennings is better and the best WR we have. Aiyuk is injured and recovering.

I'll send both 11, 15 and our 2nd rounder next year for LV's 1st and TE (Mayer) and their 3th.

then we're good to go !!

So who goes to the bench, Kittle or Mayer?

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Would if B.A or CMC would have taken this approach where would they be now? We are the most injury prone team I've ever seen.

We paid CMC, T.W, B.A, when they chose to go this route, so the precedent is already set.

This is a perfect example of having proper self awareness of yourself going into negotiations.

Those guys have major leverage cause they're the best at what they do. The team actually NEEDS them. Not having them would be a major major loss. So even though I still think they should take that approach, I understand what they're doing (I don't like it but I understand it).

Jennings doesn't have that sort of leverage or importance to the team. He makes the team better but isn't any where near their caliber.

So him taking this hold out approach isn't the best path forward, IMO. I think he would have been better off taking a different route (what I mentioned in the previous post) - understanding what he means to the team and his caliber of player.

and if you believe that is the culture set now (this negotiation style), then Jennings is the perfect situation to make an example out of - which sounds like what they're doing.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Would if B.A or CMC would have taken this approach where would they be now? We are the most injury prone team I've ever seen.

We paid CMC, T.W, B.A, when they chose to go this route, so the precedent is already set.

This is a perfect example of having proper self awareness of yourself going into negotiations.

Those guys have major leverage cause they're the best at what they do. The team actually NEEDS them. Not having them would be a major major loss. So even though I still think they should take that approach, I understand what they're doing (I don't like it but I understand it).

Jennings doesn't have that sort of leverage or importance to the team. He makes the team better but isn't any where near their caliber.

So him taking this hold out approach isn't the best path forward, IMO. I think he would have been better off taking a different route (what I mentioned in the previous post) - understanding what he means to the team and his caliber of player.

and if you believe that is the culture set now (this negotiation style), then Jennings is the perfect situation to make an example out of - which sounds like what they're doing.

So trade him and show him who's boss?

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Would if B.A or CMC would have taken this approach where would they be now? We are the most injury prone team I've ever seen.

We paid CMC, T.W, B.A, when they chose to go this route, so the precedent is already set.

This is a perfect example of having proper self awareness of yourself going into negotiations.

Those guys have major leverage cause they're the best at what they do. The team actually NEEDS them. Not having them would be a major major loss. So even though I still think they should take that approach, I understand what they're doing (I don't like it but I understand it).

Jennings doesn't have that sort of leverage or importance to the team. He makes the team better but isn't any where near their caliber.

So him taking this hold out approach isn't the best path forward, IMO. I think he would have been better off taking a different route (what I mentioned in the previous post) - understanding what he means to the team and his caliber of player.

and if you believe that is the culture set now (this negotiation style), then Jennings is the perfect situation to make an example out of - which sounds like what they're doing.

So trade him and show him who's boss?

If that's your take away from what I've been posting, then I'm done talking to you. lol

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Would if B.A or CMC would have taken this approach where would they be now? We are the most injury prone team I've ever seen.

We paid CMC, T.W, B.A, when they chose to go this route, so the precedent is already set.

This is a perfect example of having proper self awareness of yourself going into negotiations.

Those guys have major leverage cause they're the best at what they do. The team actually NEEDS them. Not having them would be a major major loss. So even though I still think they should take that approach, I understand what they're doing (I don't like it but I understand it).

Jennings doesn't have that sort of leverage or importance to the team. He makes the team better but isn't any where near their caliber.

So him taking this hold out approach isn't the best path forward, IMO. I think he would have been better off taking a different route (what I mentioned in the previous post) - understanding what he means to the team and his caliber of player.

and if you believe that is the culture set now (this negotiation style), then Jennings is the perfect situation to make an example out of - which sounds like what they're doing.

So trade him and show him who's boss?

It's what Pittsburgh does with prima Donna receivers. We should have traded Deebo since he was never that good after getting his bag and now he counts 34 mil this year in dead cap space. I know it sucks letting talent go but this seems to happen too much here.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Would if B.A or CMC would have taken this approach where would they be now? We are the most injury prone team I've ever seen.

We paid CMC, T.W, B.A, when they chose to go this route, so the precedent is already set.

This is a perfect example of having proper self awareness of yourself going into negotiations.

Those guys have major leverage cause they're the best at what they do. The team actually NEEDS them. Not having them would be a major major loss. So even though I still think they should take that approach, I understand what they're doing (I don't like it but I understand it).

Jennings doesn't have that sort of leverage or importance to the team. He makes the team better but isn't any where near their caliber.

So him taking this hold out approach isn't the best path forward, IMO. I think he would have been better off taking a different route (what I mentioned in the previous post) - understanding what he means to the team and his caliber of player.

and if you believe that is the culture set now (this negotiation style), then Jennings is the perfect situation to make an example out of - which sounds like what they're doing.

So trade him and show him who's boss?

If that's your take away from what I've been posting, then I'm done talking to you. lol

We're not talking we're typing lol

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I heard Maiocco talking bout Jenningas this morning and he said something that made some sense. Jennings hasn't practiced for awhile because of a calf issue. If it's real or not you have to think the Niners front office would be reluctant to give a big extension to a guy that's hurt. If he's faking it then he's not helping himself.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I heard Maiocco talking bout Jenningas this morning and he said something that made some sense. Jennings hasn't practiced for awhile because of a calf issue. If it's real or not you have to think the Niners front office would be reluctant to give a big extension to a guy that's hurt. If he's faking it then he's not helping himself.

Jennings didn't offer up information about the calf injury, the team did.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I heard Maiocco talking bout Jenningas this morning and he said something that made some sense. Jennings hasn't practiced for awhile because of a calf issue. If it's real or not you have to think the Niners front office would be reluctant to give a big extension to a guy that's hurt. If he's faking it then he's not helping himself.

I think it's just his way of "holding in" so he doesn't get fined but tries to get a new contract. The CBA rules make it so players can't refuse to practice without getting fined - there has to be a reason, like an injury.

he may of had a slight calf injury. Something very minor, and is just using it as the excuse to not get penalized for holding out.

I think ultimately the team is going to give him approx $3M or so in incentives for him to earn - otherwise it's going to get ugly.

Jennings would lose millions (I think it's like $4M) by holding out cause of the way his bonuses work. He has to be active on game day to earn part of his salary. This ties into the leverage he doesn't have and the team knows it

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I heard Maiocco talking bout Jenningas this morning and he said something that made some sense. Jennings hasn't practiced for awhile because of a calf issue. If it's real or not you have to think the Niners front office would be reluctant to give a big extension to a guy that's hurt. If he's faking it then he's not helping himself.

I think it's just his way of "holding in" so he doesn't get fined but tries to get a new contract. The CBA rules make it so players can't refuse to practice without getting fined - there has to be a reason, like an injury.

he may of had a slight calf injury. Something very minor, and is just using it as the excuse to not get penalized for holding out.

I think ultimately the team is going to give him approx $3M or so in incentives for him to earn - otherwise it's going to get ugly.

Jennings would lose millions (I think it's like $4M) by holding out cause of the way his bonuses work. He has to be active on game day to earn part of his salary. This ties into the leverage he doesn't have and the team knows it

The team should not cave. If a player wants a raise, they should show up and work their ass off while making their demands known. The precedent of making demand while sitting out hurts the team who then has to use roster space to sign backup options. We just can't keep rewarding this behavior as it's burned us in the past.

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I heard Maiocco talking bout Jenningas this morning and he said something that made some sense. Jennings hasn't practiced for awhile because of a calf issue. If it's real or not you have to think the Niners front office would be reluctant to give a big extension to a guy that's hurt. If he's faking it then he's not helping himself.

I think it's just his way of "holding in" so he doesn't get fined but tries to get a new contract. The CBA rules make it so players can't refuse to practice without getting fined - there has to be a reason, like an injury.

he may of had a slight calf injury. Something very minor, and is just using it as the excuse to not get penalized for holding out.

I think ultimately the team is going to give him approx $3M or so in incentives for him to earn - otherwise it's going to get ugly.

Jennings would lose millions (I think it's like $4M) by holding out cause of the way his bonuses work. He has to be active on game day to earn part of his salary. This ties into the leverage he doesn't have and the team knows it

The team should not cave. If a player wants a raise, they should show up and work their ass off while making their demands known. The precedent of making demand while sitting out hurts the team who then has to use roster space to sign backup options. We just can't keep rewarding this behavior as it's burned us in the past.

This has been the case with our receivers. Aiyuk and Deebo both underperformed their contract. Jauan's agent should have noted this fact to him before effectively sitting out this preseason.

Originally posted by 49er-from-Yavin-IV:
It comes down to you can't reward players for holding in.

The 49ers made a mistake by signing the BA contract before last season and are intent on not making the same mistake with JJ.

Sadly, a couple of dollars more that JJ probably deserves is tied up in BA's contract. But after holding in? No, you can't reward that.

Is there a reason to think the 49ers made a mistake extending BA?

Originally posted by Chance:
Yeah, I think Pearsall may very well better than JJ already, even if us fans haven't seen it yet. Reports out of camp sounded a lot like they did two years ago with BA, when BA was dominating. Pearsall has the skills to be a go-to guy, something that JJ lacks. Either way, if Pearsall isn't better yet, he probably will be at some point this season, especially if Purdy continues to build rapport with the player that's here and practicing. JJ is not doing himself, or his future contract, any favors by letting Pearsall develop with Purdy.

Yep. And Watkins was supposedly killing it in camp better than expected too. When he comes back, he's the fastest WR on the roster and has demonstrated he actually can run routes, block, and catch the ball. Robinson looked better than expected too, and he was healthy for camp before he was suspended so he could be better than JJ who has been "injured" since what, day 5 of camp?

JJ isn't the best WR on the roster ... like I said, by the end of this season he might be the 5th best ... which would be awesome for the 49ers because JJ is a good WR.

Originally posted by Scoots:
Is there a reason to think the 49ers made a mistake extending BA?

You mean besides the cost, initial underperformance, injury, friction in the front office, and rewarding the 'behavior' during the negotiation that our fans clearly find so endearing?

Other than that it's gone well.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Nothing wrong with Jennings but he's not a prime receiver. He is very good at getting open on short routes and getting the first down. He's not going to get a lot of YAC. He's not a deep threat. He's a situational receiver that apparantly wants to be paid based on what he did last year when WR position was depleted.

Jennings is smart and tough, and his biggest receiving skill is bodying DBs and winning at the point. And he's really good at it. But that's what he is.