Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Yup. I pointed this play out immediately after the game and recognized it live.. ball should go to BA there. You described it perfect Leathaface.. JG got off BA too quick to staredown a doubled Kittle which is where the ball ended up.. JG lucky / good throw not to get picked there tossing into a double team.. very big ask for Kittle to beat two defenders and toe tap with his body out of the back of the endzone

Whine because kittle doesn't get the ball. Kittle gets a perfectly thrown ball and the ball shouldn't have went to kittle 🙄. I see pros get their feet down on that play every weekend. Kittle had plenty of space to get the tow tap down.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by picklejuice:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Hopefully we get another chance to make this throw

Wide open pic.twitter.com/b1m7mRfheV

— Daniel Salazar (@danielsalazar90) October 5, 2022

unforunately Jimmy G didn't even bother trying to throw against Jalen Ramsey all game.

The ball has to travel a longer distance. That's a risk. It's easier to throw high over the middle than far enough at that angle toward the sideline. Could he have done it? Sure. But he has to wonder if Ramsey is baiting him, or if he will be accurate enough. The key here is that an inaccurate pass high to Kittle is an incomplete, while under throwing in the flat is a pick six. Risk/reward.

BA had his ass cooked…sold him on a slant and Ramsey commits to defending it. Ran the whip route perfectly. That's a pass you gotta throw before he come out the break and half faith you're WR will run it precisely, which BA did. It's safe because you're gonna throw it towards the sideline and the DB is gonna have to go through the WR to get it. WR catches is or incomplete.

The pass Jimmy made to Kittle was a hell of a pass there. Dime. It was all very risky with two guys in coverage.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by picklejuice:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Hopefully we get another chance to make this throw

Wide open pic.twitter.com/b1m7mRfheV

— Daniel Salazar (@danielsalazar90) October 5, 2022

unforunately Jimmy G didn't even bother trying to throw against Jalen Ramsey all game.

The ball has to travel a longer distance. That's a risk. It's easier to throw high over the middle than far enough at that angle toward the sideline. Could he have done it? Sure. But he has to wonder if Ramsey is baiting him, or if he will be accurate enough. The key here is that an inaccurate pass high to Kittle is an incomplete, while under throwing in the flat is a pick six. Risk/reward.

BA had his ass cooked…sold him on a slant and Ramsey commits to defending it. Ran the whip route perfectly. That's a pass you gotta throw before he come out the break and half faith you're WR will run it precisely, which BA did. It's safe because you're gonna throw it towards the sideline and the DB is gonna have to go through the WR to get it. WR catches is or incomplete.

The pass Jimmy made to Kittle was a hell of a pass there. Dime. It was all very risky with two guys in coverage.

Kittle should of got his second foot down. Jimmy should have had 2 TD passes in the game. We won so all is well.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
This is the most likely explanation as he does it often.

However, I disagree to an extent that the throw to Kittle was more dangerous (although I've only looked at the play twice: once live and once after), because what you're supposed to do is put it where no one can get it: high and away from the defenders. The angle from the midpoint line is small, making it an easier throw to make. By being easier, it is less dangerous. A throw into the flat takes a while to get there, and one runs the risk of it being undercut—unless the QB is throwing it more like a fade and putting it where no one can get it but the WR. But it's easier to under throw the longer throw to the flat than the back of the end zone throw, and that ultimately is why I say it's less dangerous.

It's a dangerous throw in the RZ, it was also a hell of a throw.


ramsey wasn't undercutting s**t on that route. He sold out on the slant perfectly.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Kittle should of got his second foot down. Jimmy should have had 2 TD passes in the game. We won so all is well.

That was a ridiculously hard throw/catch and to get two feet in imo. I don't think it was a should have got his second foot in type of play…. That was super hard and I would have been shocked. Great pass and catch regardless.

Simply disagreeing that Ramsey was remotely close to undercutting that route. That's a play that you have to have faith in your WR presnap.

yeah we won all is good, now we evaluate what we saw good and bad. All about improving because overall the offense isn't where it needs to be.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Kittle should of got his second foot down. Jimmy should have had 2 TD passes in the game. We won so all is well.

That was a ridiculously hard throw/catch and to get two feet in imo. I don't think it was a should have got his second foot in play…. That was super hard and I would have been shocked. Great pass and catch regardless.

Simply disagreeing that Ramsey was remotely close to undercutting that route. That's a play that you have to have faith in your WR presnap.

yeah we won all is good, now we evaluate what we saw good and bad. All about improving because overall the offense isn't where it needs to be.

I didn't give my opinion on whether the throw should have been to Aiyuk. Its clear as day that Aiyuk beat the brakes off of Ramsey. As far as whether or not Kittle should have gotten both feet down. Kelce gets both feet down on those types of passes into the back of the endzone.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
It's a dangerous throw in the RZ, it was also a hell of a throw.

This throw from 49ers Jimmy Garoppolo was legit elite 🔥 pic.twitter.com/mM0sgiKmlR

— Brad (@Graham_SFN) October 4, 2022

ramsey wasn't undercutting s**t on that route. He sold out on the slant perfectly.

Someone in that tweet thread mentioned how Aaron Donald was in Jimmy G's sideview...so maybe it wasn't an option

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I didn't give my opinion on whether the throw should have been to Aiyuk. Its clear as day that Aiyuk beat the brakes off of Ramsey. As far as whether or not Kittle should have gotten both feet down. Kelce gets both feet down on those types of passes into the back of the endzone.

Many Kelce is just a better pass catcher than Kittle Like I said incredibly hard play to make for both the QB and TE, Kittle was running full steam to the back pylon. BA was there and looks like was the first read. No need to make things harder then they need to be

Originally posted by picklejuice:
Someone in that tweet thread mentioned how Aaron Donald was in Jimmy G's sideview...so maybe it wasn't an option

He wasn't though. Not when he's the 1st read…that's a play where Jimmy needs to have some anticipation and the ball's gotta be out before he breaks on the route

"We're getting the YAC Bros back, that's for sure"
- Jimmy G

NFL.com has us as a top five team in spite of all the whining we do on here

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
"We're getting the YAC Bros back, that's for sure"
- Jimmy G

NFL.com has us as a top five team in spite of all the whining we do on here

everyone and their mama was whining last week. Fire Kyle blah blah blah.

most people this week aren't whining, we're looking at the film and what can be improved upon because anyone with a set of eyes can see our offense isn't where it needs to be. The plays are there to be had SF needs to execute better.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
This is the most likely explanation as he does it often.

However, I disagree to an extent that the throw to Kittle was more dangerous (although I've only looked at the play twice: once live and once after), because what you're supposed to do is put it where no one can get it: high and away from the defenders. The angle from the midpoint line is small, making it an easier throw to make. By being easier, it is less dangerous. A throw into the flat takes a while to get there, and one runs the risk of it being undercut—unless the QB is throwing it more like a fade and putting it where no one can get it but the WR. But it's easier to under throw the longer throw to the flat than the back of the end zone throw, and that ultimately is why I say it's less dangerous.

It's a dangerous throw in the RZ, it was also a hell of a throw.

This throw from 49ers Jimmy Garoppolo was legit elite 🔥 pic.twitter.com/mM0sgiKmlR

— Brad (@Graham_SFN) October 4, 2022

ramsey wasn't undercutting s**t on that route. He sold out on the slant perfectly.

yeah you definitely just want him to take the TD to Aiyuk.

impressive throw for sure though how he had the right amount of arch and velocity

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by picklejuice:
Someone in that tweet thread mentioned how Aaron Donald was in Jimmy G's sideview...so maybe it wasn't an option

He wasn't though. Not when he's the 1st read…that's a play where Jimmy needs to have some anticipation and the ball's gotta be out before he breaks on the route

I don't think it's the first read. This is actually earily similar to a play Kyle designed on good morning football when it was Pats/Rams in the SB to defeat bellichick in man-cov.

He drew up a whip route to the right and a crossing route to go over the top aiming to hit the crosser. The crossing action on kittles route works as a natural rub play and Ramsey will be held in the flat. Hard to cover Kittle across the field like that. I love the design of the play and it's the kind of catch you see the top guys making each week, it was literally 3 inches from being a touchdown.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by picklejuice:
Someone in that tweet thread mentioned how Aaron Donald was in Jimmy G's sideview...so maybe it wasn't an option

He wasn't though. Not when he's the 1st read…that's a play where Jimmy needs to have some anticipation and the ball's gotta be out before he breaks on the route

it definitely looked like he was in Jimmy's side view. also its still notconclusive that was the 1st read.

Originally posted by jonnydel:
I don't think it's the first read. This is actually earily similar to a play Kyle designed on good morning football when it was Pats/Rams in the SB to defeat bellichick in man-cov.

He drew up a whip route to the right and a crossing route to go over the top aiming to hit the crosser. The crossing action on kittles route works as a natural rub play and Ramsey will be held in the flat. Hard to cover Kittle across the field like that. I love the design of the play and it's the kind of catch you see the top guys making each week, it was literally 3 inches from being a touchdown.

Love the play call. IMO he had BA and he's gotta throw with some anticipation there. I wish he had more faith in BA because it doesn't feel like he does.

it was a ridiculously hard throw to Kittle so I give him props for fitting it in there.