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  • Jcool
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Originally posted by btthepunk:
Barrows said the judge delayed her decision until today to see if the two sides can make a deal.

I hope they agree to drop the DV to take a misdemeanor on the gun. Just to get this done.

Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by btthepunk:
Barrows said the judge delayed her decision until today to see if the two sides can make a deal.

I hope they agree to drop the DV to take a misdemeanor on the gun. Just to get this done.


Yeah.. seems quite unlikely. Expecting a trial -- although I'm hoping not -- but I'll be pleasantly surprised with a different result.
[ Edited by OnTheClock on May 23, 2018 at 9:33 AM ]
The DA is probably trying to be a dick on the wobbler gun charge to get some kind of win to save face. I hope Foster's team tells him to eat a big one. No way a jury convicts.
[ Edited by mojave45 on May 23, 2018 at 9:38 AM ]
Originally posted by mojave45:
The DA is probably trying to be a dick on the wobbler gun charge to get some kind of win to save face. I hope Foster's team tells him to eat a big one. No way a jury convicts.


I hope he fights the gun charges too and goes to trial, I think he will win that one as well...
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Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by btthepunk:
Barrows said the judge delayed her decision until today to see if the two sides can make a deal.

I hope they agree to drop the DV to take a misdemeanor on the gun. Just to get this done.


That was my first thought when the judge delayed her decision - was to let the two party's come to an agreement.
The thing that's unfortunate about this case is that unlike the majority of the population there is a significant and very real cost to Foster by dragging this decision out. Months of vile and unfounded criticism by the media and general public. Being unable to practice, improve and do his job while this plays out. There are endorsement deals he will never get simply because his name will always be tied to DV due to how the DA and media handled the process.

The DA is clearly not being reasonable or objective in his pursuit if he has not agreed to some compromise. If he doesn't agree to drop the DV charge then the judge MUST step in - if not then why ever even have a pre-trial? It would be incredibly unjust given the evidence against the case and total lack of evidence for the case to continue to damage Foster any more than what has already been done.

This isn't a scenario where there's no harm done in waiting. There is significant harm to the defendant by waiting and without good reason to wait (even a remote chance of a conviction or some credible evidence that suggests he did it) it would be total negligence by the judge and unreasonable bias by the DA to allow this to go to trial.

My hope is the judge was trying to allow the DA to save face by avoiding a decision and allowing him to be reasonable and compromise. If the DA does not compromise then that shows he isn't being reasonable and in that case who do you prefer to "save face" for -

1- A DA who has been totally biased and negligent in his role. Made a mockery of the legal system through how he conducted his investigation and held trial through the media and refused to reason even after being proven to be incompetent when the judge gave him every chance to come out unscathed.

Or

2- Foster, who by all accounts and evidence is innocent of DV and the only thing he's guilty of is a wobbler that would've been a slap on the wrist/community service if it were not for false accusations of DV and the guns wouldn't have been found in the first place.

My guess/hope is the judge will side with 2 and she will lose a ton of respect for the DA in the process since she extended an olive branch and he pushed it away.
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Given the strong anti-gun sentiment in the Bay Area, I expect the DV charge to be dropped but not the gun charge.

Politics as usual.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by btthepunk:
Barrows said the judge delayed her decision until today to see if the two sides can make a deal.

I hope they agree to drop the DV to take a misdemeanor on the gun. Just to get this done.


Yeah.. seems quite unlikely. Expecting a trial -- although I'm hoping not -- but I'll be pleasantly surprised with a different result.

I don't see how the DA could take this to trial. I know he is probably enjoying his 15 minutes here, and does not want to look like a wimp regarding DV. But isn't he risking an equal amount of blow back, looking like he is wasting tax payer money? I think he is just posturing to milk his time in the spotlight for as long as he can.
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Originally posted by dj43:
Given the strong anti-gun sentiment in the Bay Area, I expect the DV charge to be dropped but not the gun charge.

Politics as usual.

idk about that, there's definitely a pocket of right wing folks in the east bay and i'm sure there are others throughout
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Originally posted by mojave45:
The DA is probably trying to be a dick on the wobbler gun charge to get some kind of win to save face. I hope Foster's team tells him to eat a big one. No way a jury convicts.


I hope he fights the gun charges too and goes to trial, I think he will win that one as well...

Agree but only under the condition that the judge throws out the other charges so he can resume football activities. To me that's the only thing I can see going to trial and looking at the gun charge in a vacuum it is absolutely not a felony and worthy of a trial given it was purchased legally in AL and CA has a June 30th grace period on that gun. Even gun experts believe this to be the equivalent of a "Fix-It" ticket given all the technicalities and no precedent for charging someone with a felony under those same conditions.
Originally posted by luv49rs:
Originally posted by dj43:
Given the strong anti-gun sentiment in the Bay Area, I expect the DV charge to be dropped but not the gun charge.

Politics as usual.

idk about that, there's definitely a pocket of right wing folks in the east bay and i'm sure there are others throughout

There is definitely a pocket in certain regions but all relative - the Bay Area is unequivocally one of the most liberal regions on the planet.
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Originally posted by luv49rs:
Originally posted by dj43:
Given the strong anti-gun sentiment in the Bay Area, I expect the DV charge to be dropped but not the gun charge.

Politics as usual.

idk about that, there's definitely a pocket of right wing folks in the east bay and i'm sure there are others throughout

Yes, there are more conservatives in the BA than one might imagine from media coverage, however, the overall anti-gun bias is strong, particularly in the South Bay.
This is interesting, regardless of what happens today the 49ers are going to make their decision based on the facts presented in the trial:



If this is true, and ShanaLynch believe Ennis from her testimony last week, then why isn't Reuben practicing today?
Originally posted by 49oz2superbowl:
The thing that's unfortunate about this case is that unlike the majority of the population there is a significant and very real cost to Foster by dragging this decision out. Months of vile and unfounded criticism by the media and general public. Being unable to practice, improve and do his job while this plays out. There are endorsement deals he will never get simply because his name will always be tied to DV due to how the DA and media handled the process.

The DA is clearly not being reasonable or objective in his pursuit if he has not agreed to some compromise. If he doesn't agree to drop the DV charge then the judge MUST step in - if not then why ever even have a pre-trial? It would be incredibly unjust given the evidence against the case and total lack of evidence for the case to continue to damage Foster any more than what has already been done.

This isn't a scenario where there's no harm done in waiting. There is significant harm to the defendant by waiting and without good reason to wait (even a remote chance of a conviction or some credible evidence that suggests he did it) it would be total negligence by the judge and unreasonable bias by the DA to allow this to go to trial.

My hope is the judge was trying to allow the DA to save face by avoiding a decision and allowing him to be reasonable and compromise. If the DA does not compromise then that shows he isn't being reasonable and in that case who do you prefer to "save face" for -

1- A DA who has been totally biased and negligent in his role. Made a mockery of the legal system through how he conducted his investigation and held trial through the media and refused to reason even after being proven to be incompetent when the judge gave him every chance to come out unscathed.

Or

2- Foster, who by all accounts and evidence is innocent of DV and the only thing he's guilty of is a wobbler that would've been a slap on the wrist/community service if it were not for false accusations of DV and the guns wouldn't have been found in the first place.

My guess/hope is the judge will side with 2 and she will lose a ton of respect for the DA in the process since she extended an olive branch and he pushed it away.


This should have been dropped last week. The standard to go to trial is still "probable cause", and that doesn't exist. The prosecution can not prove the case even with no defense mounted.

This is all about one thing, and one thing only. Everybody involved does not want to be seen on the wrong side of the politically correct issue of defending women against domestic violence. The general public is not following the details of the case, and these people are afraid of the headline when Foster walks. And yes, Foster is paying the price now, even if it is dropped later today, for the political benefit of the prosecution and judge. They are gutless and immoral.
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
This is interesting, regardless of what happens today the 49ers are going to make their decision based on the facts presented in the trial:



If this is true, and ShanaLynch believe Ennis from her testimony last week, then why isn't Reuben practicing today?
they are trying to appease Goodell
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