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Apr 7, 2015 at 9:50 AM

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Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by ElephantHaley:

Originally posted by bigwads:
Ward was a horrible pick back when it was made. That he was injured during the combine and entire pre draft only makes it worse.

I Agree 100%. The pick made ZERO sense. Ward is toooo much of a tweener. Not quick enough for CB and not big enough for safety. I hope Ward works out for the 49ers because the 2012 2013 and now Ward 2014 49er 1st rounders have not been difference makers.

So getting to the Pro Bowl in your rookie year is not being a difference maker? What did you want him to do? Cure cancer, walk on water and invent warp drive?

He got beat a lot. It's pretty easy to understand what they're saying.

Apr 7, 2015 at 10:22 AM

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Originally posted by NinerGod:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by ElephantHaley:

Originally posted by bigwads:
Ward was a horrible pick back when it was made. That he was injured during the combine and entire pre draft only makes it worse.

I Agree 100%. The pick made ZERO sense. Ward is toooo much of a tweener. Not quick enough for CB and not big enough for safety. I hope Ward works out for the 49ers because the 2012 2013 and now Ward 2014 49er 1st rounders have not been difference makers.

So getting to the Pro Bowl in your rookie year is not being a difference maker? What did you want him to do? Cure cancer, walk on water and invent warp drive?

He got beat a lot. It's pretty easy to understand what they're saying.

All DBs get beat a lot.

"Difference Maker" is such a bogus term. If a safety does everything right then a good QB isn't going to throw the ball his way so he's not going to make a splash play. He simply covered his player so the QB went the other way.

THAT is why the pass defense was so good last year...two safeties playing very well in coverage.

Did they get beat sometimes? Sure. Even Deion got beat. Ronnie too. Highlighting the times he was beat to me is disingenuous.

Apr 7, 2015 at 10:30 AM

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Originally posted by NinerGod:
He got beat a lot. It's pretty easy to understand what they're saying.

Regarding Reid, I don't agree. He had a great season and was deservedly voted to the Pro Bowl. As a Freaking Rookie! But the trouble is, to accept that those who want to talk Baalke down lose the main thrust of their argument.

Apr 8, 2015 at 12:28 PM

#1279

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Originally posted by ElephantHaley:

Originally posted by bigwads:
Ward was a horrible pick back when it was made. That he was injured during the combine and entire pre draft only makes it worse.

I Agree 100%. The pick made ZERO sense. Ward is toooo much of a tweener. Not quick enough for CB and not big enough for safety. I hope Ward works out for the 49ers because the 2012 2013 and now Ward 2014 49er 1st rounders have not been difference makers.

2013? jeeezuz! Reid has been rock solid.

Apr 8, 2015 at 8:54 PM

#1280

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Originally posted by JustinNiner:

Originally posted by ElephantHaley:

Originally posted by bigwads:
Ward was a horrible pick back when it was made. That he was injured during the combine and entire pre draft only makes it worse.

I Agree 100%. The pick made ZERO sense. Ward is toooo much of a tweener. Not quick enough for CB and not big enough for safety. I hope Ward works out for the 49ers because the 2012 2013 and now Ward 2014 49er 1st rounders have not been difference makers.

2013? jeeezuz! Reid has been rock solid.

nope, he got a couple concussions. Even though he never had concussion issues in college, baalke should have known that he would have multiple concussions in the NFL. Man, Baalke sucks.

Apr 8, 2015 at 8:56 PM

#1281

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I didn't like the pic and still don't. Hope he proves me wrong.

Apr 9, 2015 at 7:53 AM

#1282

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Originally posted by Dajanksta:
I didn't like the pic and still don't. Hope he proves me wrong.

Which pic you talking about? They say beauty is in the eye of the beholder so I doubt it would look better to you later on.

Apr 9, 2015 at 8:28 AM

#1283

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Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by NinerGod:
He got beat a lot. It's pretty easy to understand what they're saying.

Regarding Reid, I don't agree. He had a great season and was deservedly voted to the Pro Bowl. As a Freaking Rookie! But the trouble is, to accept that those who want to talk Baalke down lose the main thrust of their argument.

Well put!

Aug 3, 2015 at 5:40 PM

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I really hope this guy plays like a first rounder this year. They said the starting nickle formation had D.Johnson in the slot. I'm not sure if thats because Ward is out or they are slowly working him back in.

Aug 3, 2015 at 5:45 PM

#1285

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Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
I really hope this guy plays like a first rounder this year. They said the starting nickle formation had D.Johnson in the slot. I'm not sure if thats because Ward is out or they are slowly working him back in.

I like the fact he has a year under his belt. cant wait to see how hes developing.

Aug 3, 2015 at 5:46 PM

#1286

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Originally posted by NinerGod:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
I really hope this guy plays like a first rounder this year. They said the starting nickle formation had D.Johnson in the slot. I'm not sure if thats because Ward is out or they are slowly working him back in.

I like the fact he has a year under his belt. cant wait to see how hes developing.

in the all 22 thread, he played well..better then what people assumed after that first game

Aug 3, 2015 at 5:48 PM

#1287

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Originally posted by NinerGod:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
I really hope this guy plays like a first rounder this year. They said the starting nickle formation had D.Johnson in the slot. I'm not sure if thats because Ward is out or they are slowly working him back in.

I like the fact he has a year under his belt. cant wait to see how hes developing.

My confidence in Ward comes from Baalke's ability to pick DBs. Plus, he did flash some playmaking ability. However, because of his size, I dont think he'll be a guy you can just plug and play. I just wouldn't put him on bigger recievers (aka..Brandon Marshall....

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Aug 3, 2015 at 5:54 PM

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Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Originally posted by NinerGod:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
I really hope this guy plays like a first rounder this year. They said the starting nickle formation had D.Johnson in the slot. I'm not sure if thats because Ward is out or they are slowly working him back in.

I like the fact he has a year under his belt. cant wait to see how hes developing.

My confidence in Ward comes from Baalke's ability to pick DBs. Plus, he did flash some playmaking ability. However, because of his size, I dont think he'll be a guy you can just plug and play. I just wouldn't put him on bigger recievers (aka..Brandon Marshall.... )

which is why he's best suited in the slot or nickel packages. hope he has tightened up his coverage skills. hated seeing him getting beat on crossing patterns and over head lobs last year.

Aug 3, 2015 at 6:01 PM

#1289

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Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Originally posted by NinerGod:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
I really hope this guy plays like a first rounder this year. They said the starting nickle formation had D.Johnson in the slot. I'm not sure if thats because Ward is out or they are slowly working him back in.

I like the fact he has a year under his belt. cant wait to see how hes developing.

My confidence in Ward comes from Baalke's ability to pick DBs. Plus, he did flash some playmaking ability. However, because of his size, I dont think he'll be a guy you can just plug and play. I just wouldn't put him on bigger recievers (aka..Brandon Marshall.... )

Agreed. I love that we can move Johnson (size) inside or use speed (Reaser and Ward) or experience (Brock and Wright) to the slot. Yeah...thl's work on him helped a lot for me. Solid year and about what you'd expect with a position change. I'm actually really curious to see how Mangini uses him...up at the LOS in trail mode or back off the LOS to keep everything in front of him? The latter is when he is a playmaker.

Aug 3, 2015 at 6:05 PM

#1290

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Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Originally posted by NinerGod:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
I really hope this guy plays like a first rounder this year. They said the starting nickle formation had D.Johnson in the slot. I'm not sure if thats because Ward is out or they are slowly working him back in.

I like the fact he has a year under his belt. cant wait to see how hes developing.

My confidence in Ward comes from Baalke's ability to pick DBs. Plus, he did flash some playmaking ability. However, because of his size, I dont think he'll be a guy you can just plug and play. I just wouldn't put him on bigger recievers (aka..Brandon Marshall.... )

Agreed. I love that we can move Johnson (size) inside or use speed (Reaser and Ward) or experience (Brock and Wright) to the slot. Yeah...thl's work on him helped a lot for me. Solid year and about what you'd expect with a position change. I'm actually really curious to see how Mangini uses him...up at the LOS in trail mode or back off the LOS to keep everything in front of him? The latter is when he is a playmaker.

Is thl's work in this thread?