Only a FS Jimmie Ward-Houston Texans | Page 413

Mar 21, 2019 at 3:22 PM

#6181

cciowa
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Originally posted by jonnydel:
I too and bewildered at why all his coaches have thought so highly of him.

he is not good no matter where he plays and how healthy he is. which he never is.. talk about a false narrative

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Mar 22, 2019 at 12:44 AM

#6182

DRCHOWDER
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Originally posted by 9moon:
We signed this guy as a FS, do you guys know how much HA-HA signed w/the Bears for a year??

I think he got several offers but chose the bears. Other teams were offering more, so it was him not us atleast in this situation.

Mar 22, 2019 at 6:00 AM

#6183

WolfTotem
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It's my theory that he's one of those guys who looks great in practice. It would explain why coaches and beat writers always talk him up. He's never put it together on gameday, which they can explain away with his injury problems, but the truth is he just can't get it done when it matters.

Mar 22, 2019 at 6:04 AM

#6184

OnTheClock
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Originally posted by NCommand:
I've heard this narrative a thousand times from podcasts, beat writers and fans: "When Jimmie Ward is healthy, he's actually a pretty good player."

Ummmm, what Mandela Effect is this? Every time he's on the field he's been complete garbage.

Oh boy it's even worse, Jimmie Ward - QB rating when Safety snaps only:

2018 140.5
2017 156.3

166 snaps which is quite a small sample, but it's asking for a significant upturn and being healthy. https://t.co/ylhHqm8pQA
— Football Analysis (@DataNiner) March 21, 2019

When he was drafted, I couldn't help but rip this pick to shreds if he was playing safety. Not only did I feel like he didn't possess the durability (already proven to be true), he just wasn't ever anything special on tape. Dude looked like at best he could be an above average slot corner but he's been an unsurprisingly horrific disappointment since the beginning.

Mar 22, 2019 at 6:54 AM

#6185

pdizo916
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Originally posted by Ensatsu:
when was this guy ever good?

I can't remember if PFF even gave him good ratings either. And they're usually very generous with their ratings. Just look at how they fluff Arik Armstead's stats.

he was good in this second year in college.

Mar 22, 2019 at 8:06 AM

#6186

CatchMaster80
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Originally posted by WolfTotem:
It's my theory that he's one of those guys who looks great in practice. It would explain why coaches and beat writers always talk him up. He's never put it together on gameday, which they can explain away with his injury problems, but the truth is he just can't get it done when it matters.

I was going to say the same thing. They see these guys for several hours all week in practice and only a few minutes in the games. Sometimes the mind plays tricks.

Mar 22, 2019 at 10:05 AM

#6187

TTown9ers
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Originally posted by Ensatsu:
when was this guy ever good?

I can't remember if PFF even gave him good ratings either. And they're usually very generous with their ratings. Just look at how they fluff Arik Armstead's stats.

He hasn't been. People just want to believe it to feel better about it.

Mar 22, 2019 at 10:20 AM

#6188

cciowa
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Originally posted by TTown9ers:

Originally posted by Ensatsu:
when was this guy ever good?

I can't remember if PFF even gave him good ratings either. And they're usually very generous with their ratings. Just look at how they fluff Arik Armstead's stats.

He hasn't been. People just want to believe it to feel better about it.

or to get on kyle and lynchs good side like MM does

Mar 22, 2019 at 10:22 AM

#6189

cciowa
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I was going to say the same thing. They see these guys for several hours all week in practice and only a few minutes in the games. Sometimes the mind plays tricks.

if they coaches are not paying attention to what their players are doing in a game or look at film afterwards. they do not deserve to be coaches in my opinion. i think this is a terrible excuse for the coaches

Mar 22, 2019 at 11:15 AM

#6190

WestCoastForever
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Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I was going to say the same thing. They see these guys for several hours all week in practice and only a few minutes in the games. Sometimes the mind plays tricks.

if they coaches are not paying attention to what their players are doing in a game or look at film afterwards. they do not deserve to be coaches in my opinion. i think this is a terrible excuse for the coaches

Better yet, how do they get to where they are without studying film of their players? I'm going with, they are paying attention.

Mar 22, 2019 at 11:18 AM

#6191

cciowa
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Originally posted by WestCoastForever:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I was going to say the same thing. They see these guys for several hours all week in practice and only a few minutes in the games. Sometimes the mind plays tricks.

if they coaches are not paying attention to what their players are doing in a game or look at film afterwards. they do not deserve to be coaches in my opinion. i think this is a terrible excuse for the coaches

Better yet, how do they get to where they are without studying film of their players? I'm going with, they are paying attention.

i probably missed it but i have yet to hear lynch and kyle discuss what good things ward does. other than. i would go to war with him. he is a heckuva good play when healthy. shirley they have seen film on this guy and see how poorly.oh never f**king mind

Mar 22, 2019 at 11:44 AM

#6192

Ensatsu
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Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I was going to say the same thing. They see these guys for several hours all week in practice and only a few minutes in the games. Sometimes the mind plays tricks.

if they coaches are not paying attention to what their players are doing in a game or look at film afterwards. they do not deserve to be coaches in my opinion. i think this is a terrible excuse for the coaches

Jimmie must be a Practice warrior just like Blaine Gabbert.

I don't see any good film in the real games.

Mar 22, 2019 at 11:56 AM

#6193

cciowa
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Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Jimmie must be a Practice warrior just like Blaine Gabbert.

I don't see any good film in the real games.

You would think lynch and kyle who get paid big money would see what you and others see or do not see in regards to ward.. even if they gush about the way he practices.you would think they can see what he actually does on the rare times he does step onto the field

[ Edited by cciowa on Mar 22, 2019 at 11:57 AM ]

Mar 23, 2019 at 5:15 PM

#6194

LVJay
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Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Jimmie must be a Practice warrior just like Blaine Gabbert.

I don't see any good film in the real games.

You would think lynch and kyle who get paid big money would see what you and others see or do not see in regards to ward.. even if they gush about the way he practices.you would think they can see what he actually does on the rare times he does step onto the field

Don't let Shanny have anything to do with evaluating / signing defense...

Someone needs to hold Lynch's hand (maybe both hands) when evaluating certain players / talent...

Mar 23, 2019 at 9:27 PM

#6195

TonyStarks
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Originally posted by LVJay:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Jimmie must be a Practice warrior just like Blaine Gabbert.

I don't see any good film in the real games.

You would think lynch and kyle who get paid big money would see what you and others see or do not see in regards to ward.. even if they gush about the way he practices.you would think they can see what he actually does on the rare times he does step onto the field

Don't let Shanny have anything to do with evaluating / signing defense...

Someone needs to hold Lynch's hand (maybe both hands) when evaluating certain players / talent...

Like Brieda and Kittle? Ok.