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  • dmatt
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Originally posted by kray28:
Originally posted by AmpLee:
Originally posted by kray28:
The ironic thing is that Washington's basketball team voluntarily changed their name from the Bullets to the Wizards and made a statement against violence in the community by doing so.

There was no crying about tradition...just a recognition that the name wasn't appropriate.

Native Americans are pretty openly opposed to the name....and are aggrieved by it. Why does the franchise and the NFL at large continue to fight this?

I don't know about that. Some guy on here questioned 20 Native Americans and none were offended by the name. lol.

Sound totally credible. lol.

Except:

Native Americans themselves are leading this fight. They've been legally challenging the trademark in court for decades actually: The familiar arguments are fundamentally the same as in Harjo et al v. Pro-Football Inc., a trademark suit filed in 1992 that wound its way through the courts for 17 years. Suzan Shown Harjo and six petitioners won that case before the trademark board in 1999 but lost on appeal, largely on a technical argument that they had waited too long to assert their rights.

New generation of Indians fight the Redskins trademark

I guess they should just "get over it", right?

You can find someone to be offended by anything. I for one am extremely offended by the fighting irish and the vikings.
Know many active Vikings do yah?
Originally posted by dmatt:
You can find someone to be offended by anything. I for one am extremely offended by the fighting irish and the vikings.

You are not offended by the fighting irish or vikings names, so your attempt at a joke is pointless. No other pro team has an offensive name in any way. From what i hear a very small percentage of the Native community are actually offended by the name, but that can still end up being a few million people. That's too many people, change the name. Nobody will even care in a few years. Plus it would be nice as a Niner fan to participate in making Skins fans angry for having to change their name.
  • LVJay
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Originally posted by 9erguy:
Originally posted by NinerGod:
Washington Natives.

This or Washington Tomahawks (just to see the Seattle fans get their panties in a bunch when everyone starts calling Washington the "Hawks" too)

Natives would be legit.

As for Tomahawks, you're right, they would be livid. Whenever "Hawks" were to be mentioned people would have to think which one (the real one or the fictional one)... A Tomahawk isn't a made up bird or something weak like that
  • kray28
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Have any of you read this? You should.

http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2013/11/13/dakota-man-exposes-vile-history-redskins-facebook-152241
  • BobS
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If Redskin is such a nasty slur why when I have heard every racial slur under the sun used, have I never heard the term Redskin used other than when referring to the football team? Some people just feel the need to make a big deal out of nothing. If Native Americans make up .9% of the USA population that means there are 3 million living here, so why should anyone care about the few who claim to be offended? I could understand concern if there was a petition with a million Native American names on it against the term Redskin, but there isn't.
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Washington 12th man.....I don't know of any other pro football team that claims this I'm sure Texas am would licenses it to them.
Originally posted by kray28:
Have any of you read this? You should.

http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2013/11/13/dakota-man-exposes-vile-history-redskins-facebook-152241

Thank you for posting this.

For some it wont change their minds, despite evidence to the contrary.Others, it sheds necessary light on the true history of the slur for some who may not have known.
  • LVJay
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Originally posted by BobS:
If Redskin is such a nasty slur why when I have heard every racial slur under the sun used, have I never heard the term Redskin used other than when referring to the football team? Some people just feel the need to make a big deal out of nothing. If Native Americans make up .9% of the USA population that means there are 3 million living here, so why should anyone care about the few who claim to be offended? I could understand concern if there was a petition with a million Native American names on it against the term Redskin, but there isn't.

Originally posted by kray28:
Have any of you read this? You should.

http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2013/11/13/dakota-man-exposes-vile-history-redskins-facebook-152241

They don't want to be associated with the name in any way like they're some kind of pet mascot. Sounds reasonable. It ain't about you and your opinion, its about them. Change the name and lets move on.
Originally posted by T-9ers:
They don't want to be associated with the name in any way like they're some kind of pet mascot. Sounds reasonable. It ain't about you and your opinion, its about them. Change the name and lets move on.

Likewise, if you're not Native American, you have no say. Since most Native Americans don't find it offensive, well, guess the name is staying.
[ Edited by RicetoYoung on Jun 20, 2014 at 9:22 PM ]
  • LVJay
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Originally posted by VDpwndMjenkins:
Thank you for posting this.

For some it wont change their minds, despite evidence to the contrary.Others, it sheds necessary light on the true history of the slur for some who may not have known.

Before I read up on the link, I always thought that some Native Indians and other races just thought of "Redskins" as a racial slur towards Natives... I had no idea there was a dark/evil history to it. Now, I'm wondering if some or any (for that matter) sincerely consider themselves as Native (Americans) ...

Someone in here mentioned changing the logo to a potato and keep the name redskin... that's more like it.
[ Edited by LVJay on Jun 20, 2014 at 9:59 PM ]
Originally posted by RicetoYoung:
Likewise, if you're not Native American, you have no say. Since most Native Americans don't find it offensive, well, guess the name is staying.

Exactly, ain't about us, so we will see. If I had to bet, I'd say eventually they're forced to change it. I'm going laugh tobecause i hate the redskins.
Oh look, some native americans that actually have a problem with the slur.I thought all ones everyone on here says they know were the only ones that exsisted.No wait, there are only a few of em compared to the others who dont care, so I guess their opinion doesnt matter.

Wtf is going to be the excuse next.
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