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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Have you listened to his interviews ?
He refuses to do OTAs for the better of his brand !!!!
He still runs lazy routes, he still runs the wrong routes, he still can't find an empty hole in the defense, he still gets alligator arms
Stuff that all can be worked on when you're with your team practicing
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Have you listened to his interviews ?
He refuses to do OTAs for the better of his brand !!!!
He still runs lazy routes, he still runs the wrong routes, he still can't find an empty hole in the defense, he still gets alligator arms
Stuff that all can be worked on when you're with your team practicing
Originally posted by sfout:lol so you must've hated Vernon before this anyway because the only thing that is different from 4 weeks ago is that he chose to skip a voluntary workout.
Originally posted by Jakemall:I'm not sure I agree with VD on this hold out stuff, but I read somewhere that he said he was promised a restructuring...so if he's holding out to force the 9ers to keep their promise, then I kinda understand it. You suggest it can be worked out while he's practising, but he might have been told they're not going to address it now so this is his reaction. If he's just simply doing it because he wants more money and it is all in his head, then that's a different story.
As far as the complaints, the dude is a top 3 TE. I'd take Gronk and Graham over him..that's it. Playing injured for part of the season he still put up 850 yards and 13 TDs.
Originally posted by Jakemall:
I'm not sure I agree with VD on this hold out stuff, but I read somewhere that he said he was promised a restructuring...so if he's holding out to force the 9ers to keep their promise, then I kinda understand it. You suggest it can be worked out while he's practising, but he might have been told they're not going to address it now so this is his reaction. If he's just simply doing it because he wants more money and it is all in his head, then that's a different story.
As far as the complaints, the dude is a top 3 TE. I'd take Gronk and Graham over him..that's it. Playing injured for part of the season he still put up 850 yards and 13 TDs.
Originally posted by matt49er:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
I'm not sure I agree with VD on this hold out stuff, but I read somewhere that he said he was promised a restructuring...so if he's holding out to force the 9ers to keep their promise, then I kinda understand it. You suggest it can be worked out while he's practising, but he might have been told they're not going to address it now so this is his reaction. If he's just simply doing it because he wants more money and it is all in his head, then that's a different story.
As far as the complaints, the dude is a top 3 TE. I'd take Gronk and Graham over him..that's it. Playing injured for part of the season he still put up 850 yards and 13 TDs.
where did you read that? I've read a ton on this subject and I haven't seen or heard that anywhere. Only thing remotely close was him saying he made it known last year he wanted a new deal and they are still waiting, nothing about a promise.
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:wont sniff a SB contest ?
VPo, by rights, a half way decent OC would show all those brite shiny new toys at WR , line them all up, and with crabs being doubled and somebody trying to do that to anquan also, it would be the perfect time to make Vernon the preferred target. Ah, what am I saying. We got roman as OC. No way he would even think of that. Then again, why should we expect him to...because he is a run play caller, and NOT an OC, even tho that is his unfortunate title. I sure hope JH is calling plays this yr because if roman is we won't even sniff the SB contest. Just an opinion
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:wont sniff a SB contest ?
VPo, by rights, a half way decent OC would show all those brite shiny new toys at WR , line them all up, and with crabs being doubled and somebody trying to do that to anquan also, it would be the perfect time to make Vernon the preferred target. Ah, what am I saying. We got roman as OC. No way he would even think of that. Then again, why should we expect him to...because he is a run play caller, and NOT an OC, even tho that is his unfortunate title. I sure hope JH is calling plays this yr because if roman is we won't even sniff the SB contest. Just an opinion
Originally posted by cciowa:the last three years have already proven him wrong
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:wont sniff a SB contest ?
VPo, by rights, a half way decent OC would show all those brite shiny new toys at WR , line them all up, and with crabs being doubled and somebody trying to do that to anquan also, it would be the perfect time to make Vernon the preferred target. Ah, what am I saying. We got roman as OC. No way he would even think of that. Then again, why should we expect him to...because he is a run play caller, and NOT an OC, even tho that is his unfortunate title. I sure hope JH is calling plays this yr because if roman is we won't even sniff the SB contest. Just an opinion
of course the doc is right. i am very happy with all of our weapons and options we should be able to do on offense this year. But in the end will it really matter? will we really see a difference? will we really see less off tackle runs on first and second down, bringing up third and long where we will call a time out and then come and run off tackle again? no doc is right,, unless we find a way to incorporate our weapons into our base idea of ground and pound, try to get up by two scores in the 4th and then wear down the other team we will not sniff the super bowl... in regards to vernon, some of you who all of a sudden hate vernon and think he can be traded for "multiple picks" should know we will not sniff the super bowl without him
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:ok fine. you take vernon off this team, replace him with whoever on our current roster and we are a lesser team, i do not think that is even up for debate.people want to keep aldon because he is a difference maker, who has made a mistake in key games, or sometimes plays the role of the invisible man for stretches in a game, you do the same for vernon in my opinion. if he gets to be a problem child in the locker room then you have a different conversation,, but he is not at that point nor has he been in the last three years.
Originally posted by cciowa:the last three years have already proven him wrong
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:wont sniff a SB contest ?
VPo, by rights, a half way decent OC would show all those brite shiny new toys at WR , line them all up, and with crabs being doubled and somebody trying to do that to anquan also, it would be the perfect time to make Vernon the preferred target. Ah, what am I saying. We got roman as OC. No way he would even think of that. Then again, why should we expect him to...because he is a run play caller, and NOT an OC, even tho that is his unfortunate title. I sure hope JH is calling plays this yr because if roman is we won't even sniff the SB contest. Just an opinion
of course the doc is right. i am very happy with all of our weapons and options we should be able to do on offense this year. But in the end will it really matter? will we really see a difference? will we really see less off tackle runs on first and second down, bringing up third and long where we will call a time out and then come and run off tackle again? no doc is right,, unless we find a way to incorporate our weapons into our base idea of ground and pound, try to get up by two scores in the 4th and then wear down the other team we will not sniff the super bowl... in regards to vernon, some of you who all of a sudden hate vernon and think he can be traded for "multiple picks" should know we will not sniff the super bowl without him
Originally posted by cciowa:you guys were talking about G-RO being the weak link, but his style got us well within reach of SBs
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:ok fine. you take vernon off this team, replace him with whoever on our current roster and we are a lesser team, i do not think that is even up for debate.people want to keep aldon because he is a difference maker, who has made a mistake in key games, or sometimes plays the role of the invisible man for stretches in a game, you do the same for vernon in my opinion. if he gets to be a problem child in the locker room then you have a different conversation,, but he is not at that point nor has he been in the last three years.
Originally posted by cciowa:the last three years have already proven him wrong
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:wont sniff a SB contest ?
VPo, by rights, a half way decent OC would show all those brite shiny new toys at WR , line them all up, and with crabs being doubled and somebody trying to do that to anquan also, it would be the perfect time to make Vernon the preferred target. Ah, what am I saying. We got roman as OC. No way he would even think of that. Then again, why should we expect him to...because he is a run play caller, and NOT an OC, even tho that is his unfortunate title. I sure hope JH is calling plays this yr because if roman is we won't even sniff the SB contest. Just an opinion
of course the doc is right. i am very happy with all of our weapons and options we should be able to do on offense this year. But in the end will it really matter? will we really see a difference? will we really see less off tackle runs on first and second down, bringing up third and long where we will call a time out and then come and run off tackle again? no doc is right,, unless we find a way to incorporate our weapons into our base idea of ground and pound, try to get up by two scores in the 4th and then wear down the other team we will not sniff the super bowl... in regards to vernon, some of you who all of a sudden hate vernon and think he can be traded for "multiple picks" should know we will not sniff the super bowl without him
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by cciowa:you guys were talking about G-RO being the weak link, but his style got us well within reach of SBs
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:ok fine. you take vernon off this team, replace him with whoever on our current roster and we are a lesser team, i do not think that is even up for debate.people want to keep aldon because he is a difference maker, who has made a mistake in key games, or sometimes plays the role of the invisible man for stretches in a game, you do the same for vernon in my opinion. if he gets to be a problem child in the locker room then you have a different conversation,, but he is not at that point nor has he been in the last three years.
Originally posted by cciowa:the last three years have already proven him wrong
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:wont sniff a SB contest ?
VPo, by rights, a half way decent OC would show all those brite shiny new toys at WR , line them all up, and with crabs being doubled and somebody trying to do that to anquan also, it would be the perfect time to make Vernon the preferred target. Ah, what am I saying. We got roman as OC. No way he would even think of that. Then again, why should we expect him to...because he is a run play caller, and NOT an OC, even tho that is his unfortunate title. I sure hope JH is calling plays this yr because if roman is we won't even sniff the SB contest. Just an opinion
of course the doc is right. i am very happy with all of our weapons and options we should be able to do on offense this year. But in the end will it really matter? will we really see a difference? will we really see less off tackle runs on first and second down, bringing up third and long where we will call a time out and then come and run off tackle again? no doc is right,, unless we find a way to incorporate our weapons into our base idea of ground and pound, try to get up by two scores in the 4th and then wear down the other team we will not sniff the super bowl... in regards to vernon, some of you who all of a sudden hate vernon and think he can be traded for "multiple picks" should know we will not sniff the super bowl without him
I think we do well with Vance taking over, he's not as good as VD right now..but at tight end we dont need him to be. We just need someone to find the hole make the catch and keep the chains moving.
Originally posted by buck:
Who is taking Vernon Davis off the team?
Who wants Vernon Davis off the team?
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
you guys were talking about G-RO being the weak link, but his style got us well within reach of SBs
I think we do well with Vance taking over, he's not as good as VD right now..but at tight end we dont need him to be. We just need someone to find the hole make the catch and keep the chains moving.
Originally posted by Jakemall:Originally posted by buck:Who is taking Vernon Davis off the team?
Who wants Vernon Davis off the team?
No one is taking him off the team....but it seems we have some 9er fans that don't think it is a big deal.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:you guys were talking about G-RO being the weak link, but his style got us well within reach of SBs
I think we do well with Vance taking over, he's not as good as VD right now..but at tight end we dont need him to be. We just need someone to find the hole make the catch and keep the chains moving.