You're making the pick at #27, who do you take?

Originally posted by steiber:
Trade back. If a QB falls, teams will want to move up to get the 5th year option. Get a first for next year. We need to add more quality players.

i really dont see any team trading forward. Not sure if there is a player worth that 5th year option

I think at this point what we need to potentially start for us next year is a pass rush DE and safety before before we draft any other position. What we should look at are to develop are OT/OG, WR, RB, TE, LB, CB.

The more i think about it the more i think 27 is going to be oline. Listening to the locked on 49ers podcast they mentioned we only have 2 starters signed in 2027. Most of us have been clamouring for one for some time now. I think last year they wanted one but there wasnt one worth the pick when we picked.

Caleb Lomu seems to be available in most mock draft simulators and he maybe a fine pick. Sitting a year under Trent while getting stronger maybe exactly what he needs.
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If I cannot trade to get a DE, say Myles Garrett, than I stay firm and grab Cooper. He just looks like a Shanahan wideout.

I think the options should be updated based on FA additions, but if I were to stack rank across need and BPA:

1) Cashius Howell - EDGE
*Replaces Bryce Huff's role as a NASCAR EDGE pass rusher; athletic enough to drop in coverage in 5-2 packages to provide scheme flex and stir up the pot for opposing offenses. Arm length is a concern, but you can't argue with on-field college production.

2) Emmanuel McNeil-Warren - DB/LB
*While not a normal high prio position, I think the Seahawks D left a lasting impression on Shanahan this offseason. In 4-2-5, 5-2, 3-3-5 packages, Warren could play DB, S, LB, or blitzer. Stout against the run and good enough as a pass defender for specific assignments, Warren adds an element we've never had in our S room. And given Greenlaw's injury concerns, and high missed tackle rate from Winters, Warren could see time at WILL.

3) Omar Cooper Jr - WR
*Evans, Pearsall, and Kirk have injury concerns, and Watkins and Cowing are unproven. Cooper gives us a bit of Deebo and a bit of Aiyuk, which will provide a nice chess piece for Shanahan in our offensive scheme. Cooper would replace Robinson on our depth chart, and could offer upside on ST to replace Moore's role.

4A) Trade back - but assuming that's a cheat answer :-)

4B) Monroe Freeling - T
*I'm not sure he offers guard upside, so I hope Lowe could play LG with Freeling being our swing T in 2026. Very much a developmental prospect. I'm not as high on Freeling as the draft pundits to be Williams successor. But it's a draft and pray type selection, hoping it works out.

5) Kayden McDonald - DT/NT
*I really hope he's not the selection because I don't like the value and need specifically for our team. We already have Collins and West as our run defending fatties with Oso and Mykel as our pass down rushers. However, he's definitely a grade above Collins and West in being able to take on OL, disengage blocks, and make sound plays on 1st and 2nd downs. The only benefit is that it shores up our iDL, especially to improve our run defense.

Originally posted by GEEK:
I think the options should be updated based on FA additions, but if I were to stack rank across need and BPA:

1) Cashius Howell - EDGE
*Replaces Bryce Huff's role as a NASCAR EDGE pass rusher; athletic enough to drop in coverage in 5-2 packages to provide scheme flex and stir up the pot for opposing offenses. Arm length is a concern, but you can't argue with on-field college production.

2) Emmanuel McNeil-Warren - DB/LB
*While not a normal high prio position, I think the Seahawks D left a lasting impression on Shanahan this offseason. In 4-2-5, 5-2, 3-3-5 packages, Warren could play DB, S, LB, or blitzer. Stout against the run and good enough as a pass defender for specific assignments, Warren adds an element we've never had in our S room. And given Greenlaw's injury concerns, and high missed tackle rate from Winters, Warren could see time at WILL.

3) Omar Cooper Jr - WR
*Evans, Pearsall, and Kirk have injury concerns, and Watkins and Cowing are unproven. Cooper gives us a bit of Deebo and a bit of Aiyuk, which will provide a nice chess piece for Shanahan in our offensive scheme. Cooper would replace Robinson on our depth chart, and could offer upside on ST to replace Moore's role.

4A) Trade back - but assuming that's a cheat answer :-)

4B) Monroe Freeling - T
*I'm not sure he offers guard upside, so I hope Lowe could play LG with Freeling being our swing T in 2026. Very much a developmental prospect. I'm not as high on Freeling as the draft pundits to be Williams successor. But it's a draft and pray type selection, hoping it works out.

5) Kayden McDonald - DT/NT
*I really hope he's not the selection because I don't like the value and need specifically for our team. We already have Collins and West as our run defending fatties with Oso and Mykel as our pass down rushers. However, he's definitely a grade above Collins and West in being able to take on OL, disengage blocks, and make sound plays on 1st and 2nd downs. The only benefit is that it shores up our iDL, especially to improve our run defense.

Yes but do you trust that West and Collins are/will be high end studs on the DL in run defense? I like both West and Collins but I'm not at all convinced yet that they are future studs/stars and Kayden McDonald is a legit talent already on a tier above Collins and West with star potential.

Not saying I hope they draft McDonald - but I will not complain if he was as we need great football players and I think McDonald is or can be one.

I think he is a better football player than Howell but I really want a stud pass rushing EDGE prospect so I'd prefer Howell. Even better give me Mesidor over everyone even Cooper Jr.

#27. BPA - Mesidor/Howell/Cooper Jr/Concepcion/Iheanachor/Lawrence/McDonald/EMW etc - Just draft the highest rated player on their board and stop trying to fill needs.
#58. BPA - Haulcy/Hurst/Boston/Bell/Williams/Rutledge/Thomas/C Johnson/Pregnon/Jacas etc - Just draft the highest rated player on their board and stop trying to fill needs.

Just draft great football players. Like if the G from Penn St or Sadiq falls to #27 somehow - forget about position you just draft them as they are great football players. Problem with our team is that we don't have very many young guys that are great football players because we keep drafting for need. Just saying, hypothetically IF say McDonald was the highest rated player on their board, they should not pass on him for Cooper Jr or KC or an OL etc

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:

Yes but do you trust that West and Collins are/will be high end studs on the DL in run defense? I like both West and Collins but I'm not at all convinced yet that they are future studs/stars and Kayden McDonald is a legit talent already on a tier above Collins and West with star potential.

Not saying I hope they draft McDonald - but I will not complain if he was as we need great football players and I think McDonald is or can be one.

I think he is a better football player than Howell but I really want a stud pass rushing EDGE prospect so I'd prefer Howell. Even better give me Mesidor over everyone even Cooper Jr.

#27. BPA - Mesidor/Howell/Cooper Jr/Concepcion/Iheanachor/Lawrence/McDonald/EMW etc - Just draft the highest rated player on their board and stop trying to fill needs.
#58. BPA - Haulcy/Hurst/Boston/Bell/Williams/Rutledge/Thomas/C Johnson/Pregnon/Jacas etc - Just draft the highest rated player on their board and stop trying to fill needs.

Just draft great football players. Like if the G from Penn St or Sadiq falls to #27 somehow - forget about position you just draft them as they are great football players. Problem with our team is that we don't have very many young guys that are great football players because we keep drafting for need. Just saying, hypothetically IF say McDonald was the highest rated player on their board, they should not pass on him for Cooper Jr or KC or an OL etc

Its all a leap of faith at the end of the day. I expect Collins and West to elevate their performance in year 2. West had a similar year as DJ Jones did before he became a full-time starter. Collins showed great potential but his conditioning / stamina was just not there. But he'll be in year 2 with a full conditioning and TC program to get him stronger, leaner, and increase his stamina.

There are plenty of good run defending DTs in this draft, and you can get them much later in the rounds vs. needing to select one in the 1st round. Hence why I think the Oso trade was A++ to improve our pass rush. A 1-2 base down NT/DT ranks lower in the value element as the other players that are listed as options.

Again, I'm going off of the options that were provided in this scenario.

Looking back man things have really changed for me in this thread. At first I was all about Caleb Branch and Emmanuel McNiel-Warren. But with the addition of Osa, I don't see the 9ers taking a DT unless they can acquire a late round pick. Emmanuel McNiel-Warren and any other Safety in the 1st was pretty much a pipe dream, we all know that's not happening. IMO I've narrowed it down to Omar Cooper Jr. or best available O-Tackle. I would love for them to take the best available Guard, we'll see.

From the OP list, I'm taking Freeling.

Originally posted by jcs:
I think at this point what we need to potentially start for us next year is a pass rush DE and safety before before we draft any other position. What we should look at are to develop are OT/OG, WR, RB, TE, LB, CB.

I agree as of today the most pressing need is edge. Then free safety and depending on TW - tackle. I'm not passing on bpa for either though. Even if it's a wr rd 1. Just do it.

If there is a no brainer at 27, Someone fall that is a can't miss make the pick other then that I would really like to see the 49er trade down several time get extra 3rd and 4th round picks, draft around pick 40 and draft Anthony Hill Jr.. He would play now and when Greenlaw is out he would start. He can play OLB and even rush a little on passing downs. With extra Picks they can draft Free Safety, TE and WR Oline if they like anyone. Trading down would be a good move.

Originally posted by dlance:
If there is a no brainer at 27, Someone fall that is a can't miss make the pick other then that I would really like to see the 49er trade down several time get extra 3rd and 4th round picks, draft around pick 40 and draft Anthony Hill Jr.. He would play now and when Greenlaw is out he would start. He can play OLB and even rush a little on passing downs. With extra Picks they can draft Free Safety, TE and WR Oline if they like anyone. Trading down would be a good move.

But it doesn't look likely that teams will be looking to trade up at that point.

I chose Cooper, and EMW would probably be my second choice of those. My preferred option would be to move back and take either R Mason Thomas or Max Iheanachor.

The most Lynch pick in this draft at #27 would be taking Christen Miller the DT from Georgia - 6'4 320lbs no red flags great against the run and started showing some pass rush upside 2nd half of last season. Best friends with Mykel and prob got Mykel's view of Miller and went to Georgia's pro day and saw Miller up close and personal.

All Lynch does is talk about the defensive front and there are no DTs worth drafting in the 2nd round.

Lynch draft:

#27. Christen Miller DT
#58. Jacas / Mason Thomas / Lawrence EDGE (whoever is remaining)

Problem with the above is if none of those EDGEs are there and Lynch feels forced to make a big reach for Josephs or Sutton.

But if we were assured one of those three EDGEs above at #58 I would not complain with getting Miller at #27 even though I'd go a different direction.

Imo the easiest draft for our first two picks to get value in terms of BPA. acquire top talent, and address positional needs is Howell and Hurst with our first two picks.

#27. Cashius Howell / Malachi Lawrence EDGE (Howell just plays like he is possessed and sacks the qb. His arms won't matter based on how he attacks the QB. Can't see how Raheem isn't super high on Lawrence too.)
#58. Ted Hurst WR (super talented future starting X. Big drop off in WR talent to the late 4th round. If not at 27 get top talent here)
#127. Jalen Farmer G (super young and ascending prospect w/ a lot of upside - rising up boards so need to use first 4th rounder on him)
#133. Landon Robinson / Zane Durant DT (more pass rush from the IDL)
#138. Devin Moore / Devon Marshall CB (can push Green right away for starting #2 corner. Moore has flexibility to play FS as well)
#139. Dallen Bentley / Sam Roush / Joe Royer TE

Then we trade a 2027 4th and 7th for Jessie Bates III the veteran FS from ATL.

Originally posted by PA9erFaithful:
I chose Cooper, and EMW would probably be my second choice of those. My preferred option would be to move back and take either Cashius Howell/Malachi Lawrence or Max Iheanachor.

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