Kenyon Sadiq TE- Oregon

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by Monsterniner:
The "we won't need this position in round 1" is the type of mindset that got us behind Seattle.

We need good players because our roster is full of mid-tier guys but lacks the elite talent that Seattle has.

If Sadiq is available at 27 we should get him. Heck if he is available around 20 we should trade-up for him. Last year I wanted Tyler Warren and that would have been a good pick even with Kittle on the team.

Stop drafting for need in round 1.

100%

lol you two sure it wasn't the lack of stock the 9ers put into the O-line? How about the misses on the middle of the D-line they've had over the years? How about the two disgruntled WR's they spent 1st and 2nd round picks on? I'm not gonna even mention that huge miss on Trey Lance that practically made the 9ers sit out of the 2022 draft. Thank goodness for Brock Purdy.

I'm sure it's both. Kinlaw over Wirfs speaks volumes on how much they value OL. Don't get me wrong, the Trey f**king Lance debacle is the reason they don't have at least 7 Lombardis now and you'll never convince me otherwise.

Two of those SB losses happened before that trade.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by Monsterniner:
The "we won't need this position in round 1" is the type of mindset that got us behind Seattle.

We need good players because our roster is full of mid-tier guys but lacks the elite talent that Seattle has.

If Sadiq is available at 27 we should get him. Heck if he is available around 20 we should trade-up for him. Last year I wanted Tyler Warren and that would have been a good pick even with Kittle on the team.

Stop drafting for need in round 1.

100%

lol you two sure it wasn't the lack of stock the 9ers put into the O-line? How about the misses on the middle of the D-line they've had over the years? How about the two disgruntled WR's they spent 1st and 2nd round picks on? I'm not gonna even mention that huge miss on Trey Lance that practically made the 9ers sit out of the 2022 draft. Thank goodness for Brock Purdy.

I'm sure it's both. Kinlaw over Wirfs speaks volumes on how much they value OL. Don't get me wrong, the Trey f**king Lance debacle is the reason they don't have at least 7 Lombardis now and you'll never convince me otherwise.

Two of those SB losses happened before that trade.

Irrelevant. 5 draft classes since that trade, three of which featured first round picks (4 total picks). So you're telling me they couldn't have appeared in the SB more often with the players they could've acquired with those four picks? 100% disagree.

Originally posted by Rathof44:
Irrelevant. 5 draft classes since that trade, three of which featured first round picks (4 total picks). So you're telling me they couldn't have appeared in the SB more often with the players they could've acquired with those four picks? 100% disagree.

I'll say it; I'm not 100% confident that they get even one of those picks right. Our draft history in the first round speaks for itself

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by Monsterniner:
The "we won't need this position in round 1" is the type of mindset that got us behind Seattle.

We need good players because our roster is full of mid-tier guys but lacks the elite talent that Seattle has.

If Sadiq is available at 27 we should get him. Heck if he is available around 20 we should trade-up for him. Last year I wanted Tyler Warren and that would have been a good pick even with Kittle on the team.

Stop drafting for need in round 1.

100%

lol you two sure it wasn't the lack of stock the 9ers put into the O-line? How about the misses on the middle of the D-line they've had over the years? How about the two disgruntled WR's they spent 1st and 2nd round picks on? I'm not gonna even mention that huge miss on Trey Lance that practically made the 9ers sit out of the 2022 draft. Thank goodness for Brock Purdy.

I'm sure it's both. Kinlaw over Wirfs speaks volumes on how much they value OL. Don't get me wrong, the Trey f**king Lance debacle is the reason they don't have at least 7 Lombardis now and you'll never convince me otherwise.

Two of those SB losses happened before that trade.

Irrelevant. 5 draft classes since that trade, three of which featured first round picks (4 total picks). So you're telling me they couldn't have appeared in the SB more often with the players they could've acquired with those four picks? 100% disagree.

Yes I am. You have no idea who those picks would have been. Would they have gotten a great edge rusher so the loss of Bosa wouldn't have hurt so much? How about a replacement for Warner? Would they have drafted a really good LB? A WR to replace the production of Aiyuk? Probably not since they didn't know he was going to get hurt and never play for them again. Certainly not a RB to replace CMC for an entire season.

My point is you can't project that 3 first round picks were all going to be great enough to overcome all the player injuries they suffered. Our fans think we can't draft well so what are the chances that we would have hit on those picks.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by Rathof44:
Irrelevant. 5 draft classes since that trade, three of which featured first round picks (4 total picks). So you're telling me they couldn't have appeared in the SB more often with the players they could've acquired with those four picks? 100% disagree.

I'll say it; I'm not 100% confident that they get even one of those picks right. Our draft history in the first round speaks for itself

You're not wrong. But still rather have those picks.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by Monsterniner:
The "we won't need this position in round 1" is the type of mindset that got us behind Seattle.

We need good players because our roster is full of mid-tier guys but lacks the elite talent that Seattle has.

If Sadiq is available at 27 we should get him. Heck if he is available around 20 we should trade-up for him. Last year I wanted Tyler Warren and that would have been a good pick even with Kittle on the team.

Stop drafting for need in round 1.

100%

lol you two sure it wasn't the lack of stock the 9ers put into the O-line? How about the misses on the middle of the D-line they've had over the years? How about the two disgruntled WR's they spent 1st and 2nd round picks on? I'm not gonna even mention that huge miss on Trey Lance that practically made the 9ers sit out of the 2022 draft. Thank goodness for Brock Purdy.

I'm sure it's both. Kinlaw over Wirfs speaks volumes on how much they value OL. Don't get me wrong, the Trey f**king Lance debacle is the reason they don't have at least 7 Lombardis now and you'll never convince me otherwise.

Two of those SB losses happened before that trade.

Irrelevant. 5 draft classes since that trade, three of which featured first round picks (4 total picks). So you're telling me they couldn't have appeared in the SB more often with the players they could've acquired with those four picks? 100% disagree.

Yes I am. You have no idea who those picks would have been. Would they have gotten a great edge rusher so the loss of Bosa wouldn't have hurt so much? How about a replacement for Warner? Would they have drafted a really good LB? A WR to replace the production of Aiyuk? Probably not since they didn't know he was going to get hurt and never play for them again. Certainly not a RB to replace CMC for an entire season.

My point is you can't project that 3 first round picks were all going to be great enough to overcome all the player injuries they suffered. Our fans think we can't draft well so what are the chances that we would have hit on those picks.

And i can say the exact opposite. Neither of us can prove what could've been. You have no idea and neither do I. That said, still would rather roll the dice with the opportunity to actually make those picks than endure the worst trade in 49er history.

Originally posted by Rathof44:
And i can say the exact opposite. Neither of us can prove what could've been. You have no idea and neither do I. That said, still would rather roll the dice with the opportunity to actually make those picks than endure the worst trade in 49er history.

Having picks is better than having none…now if Lance turned into the QB we wanted to they probably win a SB all the same. It's all what ifs.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Having picks is better than having none…now if Lance turned into the QB we wanted to they probably win a SB all the same. It's all what ifs.

Fair point.

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Having picks is better than having none…now if Lance turned into the QB we wanted to they probably win a SB all the same. It's all what ifs.

Fair point.

When was the last time the 49ers had 3 straight first round picks that were difference makers. That's hard for any team to do let alone one that's drafting in the bottom hlf of the draft. Not having draft picks wasn't the reason the Niners lost the last 3 SBs. They were in position to win every one of them. A break here and there and they win at least 2 of them. It wasn't because they didn't have the talent.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Having picks is better than having none…now if Lance turned into the QB we wanted to they probably win a SB all the same. It's all what ifs.

Fair point.

When was the last time the 49ers had 3 straight first round picks that were difference makers. That's hard for any team to do let alone one that's drafting in the bottom hlf of the draft. Not having draft picks wasn't the reason the Niners lost the last 3 SBs. They were in position to win every one of them. A break here and there and they win at least 2 of them. It wasn't because they didn't have the talent.

Well the Trey Lance deal made absolutely sure we had no chance at any difference maker for 3 years, so there's that. Actually that deal made sure we didn't even have a mid first round players...not even depth. lol

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by RonMexico:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
He's not falling to 27

We gotta go get him

i dont think hes worth a trade up for i do have concerns he is a bit of a workout warrior it isnt like hes ever had a dominant season playing and dont get me wrong he has the capability to be an elite TE but we have other holes that are way more glaring than TE like WR, DL depth, S, LG, and maybe CB

I don't think he gets past the Chiefs with Kelce on his way out.