Shemar Stewart 6'6 290lbs Freak

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by 49ers808:
Is that worth our first pick at 11 for you?

That sounds like Thomas and Kinlaw again, except at end

I wouldn't. Too risky for me.

Same. Thanks bro. That said; I expect him to be the pick

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane. A combination of boom or bust on top of being a project. A&M seems to have started to struggle developing defensive line guys all of the sudden.

My god I'm so sick of reading posts like this. He plays nothing like "jane." And A&M does a great job of developing DL; defensive staff some of the best in CFB. They just prioritize different things than you.

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane. A combination of boom or bust on top of being a project. A&M seems to have started to struggle developing defensive line guys all of the sudden.

My god I'm so sick of reading posts like this. He plays nothing like "jane." And A&M does a great job of developing DL; defensive staff some of the best in CFB. They just prioritize different things than you.

Yeah the reason I'm really intrigued with him is the difference in scheme and priorities in how A&M has their guys playing and how we do. Polar opposites imo.

His play at the senior bowl and at the higher weight was also very eye catching. When you show up and look like you not only belong but it looks super easy for you against some of the top guys it's different than guys who simply test well at the combine.

Especially with us maybe sitting on the outside of the top guys who may go top 10 it comes down to can you trade down? I'm not sure we'll have that opportunity there so what do we do next? Reach for a safe pick but maybe someone with a shorter ceiling? Or do we go with a freak who may fit our scheme a lot more than he did his college one?

Can't have a better fit for him than the wide 9 being coached by Coach K and Bosa there to share technique advice.

Originally posted by highway49:
Information straight from "the Huddle Report", I realize it's just one article so take it for what you will.
"He came into the Senior Bowl weighing 281 lbs and 3½ weeks later at the combine, weighed in at 267 lbs. That's almost 5 lbs a week. Shemar then ran a 4.59 in his 40, 1.58, 10-yard split, 40 Vertical, and 10'11" broad jump. Shemar could not finish the rest of the drills because of a tweaked hamstring after running his 40. Now you would think that with all of those athletic talents, Shemar would be considered as a top-ten pick in this draft. Here is the big problem, Shemar's college three-year, career stats are; 2022, 11 solo tackles-1.5 sacks, 2023, 5 solo tackles and 1.5 sacks, 2024, 14 solo tackles and you guessed it...1.5 sacks. So, let's add this up, he loses 14 lbs in 3 weeks, tweaks his hamstring, and has a total of, 30 solo tackles and 3.5 sacks...in 3 years of college football. Picture yourself as a scout or GM of a team, and tell me that you have the biggest set of balls to suggest that this Child should be selected in the 1st round of this draft. I watched Shemar on film and he has poor footwork."

also to counter that discussion from " nfldraftbuzz"
While Stewart's career sack production (4.5 total with exactly 1.5 in each season) doesn't tell the complete story, his impact runs deeper than the stat sheet suggests. His presence was felt in 2024 particularly, where he racked up 39 total pressures over 315 pass-rushing snaps according to PFF, showcasing the disruptive potential that has NFL scouts drooling after his historic combine performance in Indianapolis.

For me, I needed to clearly see more demonstrated and consistent production overall during college playing seasons to pick him at # 11. I do not see it. I'll pass. Not saying he won't be good but he's not a safe enough pick.

Good info, adding his first two years isn't quite fair he was developing and still is. 14 Solo and 1.5 sack is abysmal I can't even believe I'm considering him but he's young and shows tremendous potential. Dude is so big and powerful I wouldn't put it past A&M coaching him that all he needs to do is push OL backwards. Even in his highlights he's not making the play but you can clearly see his disruption but his production leaves you scratching your head

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane. A combination of boom or bust on top of being a project. A&M seems to have started to struggle developing defensive line guys all of the sudden.

My god I'm so sick of reading posts like this. He plays nothing like "jane." And A&M does a great job of developing DL; defensive staff some of the best in CFB. They just prioritize different things than you.

Sorry, didn't mean to hurt your feelings, but A&M players, and former players who transferred all under produced. He does play very Jane like, s**t production despite looking like a beast. Same with Scourton and Nolen when he played there. I don't know what priority they could be pushing, but "let's go out there and under produce" doesn't sound like something you would want to prioritize.

Please God not at 11. 43 is one thing but not at 11. Rather have Pierce or even Mike Green at 11 or damn near anyone else.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane. A combination of boom or bust on top of being a project. A&M seems to have started to struggle developing defensive line guys all of the sudden.

My god I'm so sick of reading posts like this. He plays nothing like "jane." And A&M does a great job of developing DL; defensive staff some of the best in CFB. They just prioritize different things than you.

Sorry, didn't mean to hurt your feelings, but A&M players, and former players who transferred all under produced. He does play very Jane like, s**t production despite looking like a beast. Same with Scourton and Nolen when he played there. I don't know what priority they could be pushing, but "let's go out there and under produce" doesn't sound like something you would want to prioritize.

Why post on a player that you haven't watched? It doesn't make sense.

All that athleticism and NO PRODUCTION. BUYER BEWARE. We have seen this before. Combine freaks who didn't put up any playing production over the years.

2024 - 1.5 sacks
2023 - 1.5 sacks
2022 - 1.5 sacks.

So big, tall, athletic and strong. But can't get home and get sacks. You have to ask yourself why? Be careful picking this in the top 15. Or 1st round at all. That's a lot of bust potential IMO.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
All that athleticism and NO PRODUCTION. BUYER BEWARE. We have seen this before. Combine freaks who didn't put up any playing production over the years.

2024 - 1.5 sacks
2023 - 1.5 sacks
2022 - 1.5 sacks.

So big, tall, athletic and strong. But can't get home and get sacks. You have to ask yourself why? Be careful picking this in the top 15. Or 1st round at all. That's a lot of bust potential IMO.

I mean he's clearly a work in progress. Like others have said that scheme didn't do any of those DL any justice as far as collecting stats.

Was he playing at that 285lb mark? Does dropping down to 265 make him more explosive? Is he coachable?

could he be the next Ziggy? Coach K helped develop him in DET. similar prospect imo.

For me it's too risky at 11, he looks real raw overall and it's not like he's only played a couple games.

I also don't think this draft is full of great blue chip guys…so taking a shot with a guy who's already a good run defender that could be an awesome pass rusher isn't totally crazy (I wouldn't do it)

I don't know the more I look at all these guys early in rd 1 the less thrilled I am with the overall talent. The meat and potatoes of this draft is on day 2/3

Watch Dallas take Stewart. Makes sense after losing Demarcus Lawrence.

This dude has been killing it in camp

Cashius Howell, Shemar ' replacement just had twice as many sacks as Stewart in consecutive plays. But it's the scheme

Originally posted by krizay:
Cashius Howell, Shemar ' replacement just had twice as many sacks as Stewart in consecutive plays. But it's the scheme