Rep the Red & Gold: Shop 49ers Gear →

There are 215 users in the forums

With the 11th overall pick..

Apr 20, 2025 at 11:15 AM
Originally posted by Since07:
I mean we already have some one like that in Dee Winters outside of playing the edge, not only do I not see Walker as a scheme fit but a huge liability in the run game at LB or DE
We definitely need someone to pair with Bosa but I think we need to focus on run defense, our pass rush isn't bad but our run defense looks really bad on paper only two players I trust is Bosa and Warner

Someone like Williams immediately improves the run D. He's also got the skill set and measurables to grow into a legit edge rusher.

it's projecting for either guy as a legit edge rusher.

Harmon is a dude that would immediately provide juice on the inside. He's gotta finish as a tackler in run sport but it's not like he was getting destroyed in the game at all. Legit rusher though.
Apr 20, 2025 at 11:24 AM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by kansasninerfan:
This is such a weird year. I don't even have a draft crush. I'd be fine with a number of players at 11. I think Harmon probably makes the most sense. I did find myself thinking about a guy who I have wanted for years - Kelvin Banks as can be seen here:
https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/free-agency/196818-if-trent-williams-retires/search=Banks,kansasninerfan#post11

I am not sure why he has fallen on some draft boards or why some are calling him a G. He has the tape & pedigree as a 3 year starter plus lots of intangibles like leadership. Arms are 33.5, big hands, good wingspan good 40 (which does translate in OT). Plug in Banks for Banks and move him to LT when it is time. I'm here for it.
I agree. I've been on Banks for a long time. It's Banks or Harmon for me assuming Campbell, Membou, and Graham are all gone.

IMO Banks isn't a OT at the next level.

NFL.com has compared him to Peter Skorinski as a guard and Christian Darrisaw. Those are two pretty good players.

SCOUTING REPORT: SUMMARY

Banks projects as a high-ceiling prospect who could excel at either tackle or guard, with the versatility to be a day-one impact starter at either spot. His advanced pass set technique and fluid movement skills translate beautifully to tackle in systems emphasizing quick-game concepts and RPOs, while his natural leverage and explosive power could make him an elite interior force. Though slightly shorter than ideal for tackle, his technical mastery and exceptional awareness more than compensate for any length limitations.

His processing speed and technical foundation project particularly well to zone-based systems where his fluid movement skills and expertise in combination blocks can be maximized. While he's shown clear starter ability at tackle, his unique skill set could reach even greater heights at guard, where his natural leverage and explosive power could make him one of the league's premier interior linemen. His quick mental processing and natural feel for angles should allow him to dominate at either position.

Banks has the tools to develop into a Pro Bowl-caliber player at either spot, with his ceiling potentially even higher at guard. His floor appears to be that of a quality starting tackle, with All-Pro potential if kicked inside.

https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Kelvin-BanksJr-OL-Texas
Apr 20, 2025 at 11:27 AM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Since07:
I mean we already have some one like that in Dee Winters outside of playing the edge, not only do I not see Walker as a scheme fit but a huge liability in the run game at LB or DE
We definitely need someone to pair with Bosa but I think we need to focus on run defense, our pass rush isn't bad but our run defense looks really bad on paper only two players I trust is Bosa and Warner

Someone like Williams immediately improves the run D. He's also got the skill set and measurables to grow into a legit edge rusher.

it's projecting for either guy as a legit edge rusher.

Harmon is a dude that would immediately provide juice on the inside. He's gotta finish as a tackler in run sport but it's not like he was getting destroyed in the game at all. Legit rusher though.

I think Walker will do well against the run, off the ball in base downs. Be that as our SAM, or as Greenlaw's replacement. I see a great athlete, with explosion, strength and suddenness. Who plays with his hair on fire and comes with bad intentions.
Apr 20, 2025 at 11:54 AM
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:
I'm hoping one of Graham,Membou or Will Campbell fall to the 49ers at 11.

Highly unlikely

Yeah getting close to the draft I don't see Campbell or Graham falling to 11 at all. We'd have to trade up, Membou MAYBE if we are that lucky. There'd have to be a run on QBs along with Warren and Jeanty being selected in the top 10 for him to fall to us
Apr 20, 2025 at 12:02 PM
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Since07:
I mean we already have some one like that in Dee Winters outside of playing the edge, not only do I not see Walker as a scheme fit but a huge liability in the run game at LB or DE
We definitely need someone to pair with Bosa but I think we need to focus on run defense, our pass rush isn't bad but our run defense looks really bad on paper only two players I trust is Bosa and Warner

Someone like Williams immediately improves the run D. He's also got the skill set and measurables to grow into a legit edge rusher.

it's projecting for either guy as a legit edge rusher.

Harmon is a dude that would immediately provide juice on the inside. He's gotta finish as a tackler in run sport but it's not like he was getting destroyed in the game at all. Legit rusher though.

I think Walker will do well against the run, off the ball in base downs. Be that as our SAM, or as Greenlaw's replacement. I see a great athlete, with explosion, strength and suddenness. Who plays with his hair on fire and comes with bad intentions.

Idk think you might be glazed by Walkers speed and agility, he might be able to cover ground side line to side line but you run right at him with a 6'5 300+ pound lineman he isn't pushing them back or holding it down at his size. I'm not saying Walker is going to be a bust but he doesn't make any sense to me in our scheme or what we need
Apr 20, 2025 at 12:50 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by kansasninerfan:
This is such a weird year. I don't even have a draft crush. I'd be fine with a number of players at 11. I think Harmon probably makes the most sense. I did find myself thinking about a guy who I have wanted for years - Kelvin Banks as can be seen here:
https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/free-agency/196818-if-trent-williams-retires/search=Banks,kansasninerfan#post11

I am not sure why he has fallen on some draft boards or why some are calling him a G. He has the tape & pedigree as a 3 year starter plus lots of intangibles like leadership. Arms are 33.5, big hands, good wingspan good 40 (which does translate in OT). Plug in Banks for Banks and move him to LT when it is time. I'm here for it.
I agree. I've been on Banks for a long time. It's Banks or Harmon for me assuming Campbell, Membou, and Graham are all gone.

IMO Banks isn't a OT at the next level.
Totally disagree
Apr 20, 2025 at 12:59 PM
I don't get the hate for Banks.

I think that he is gonna be a solid LT for the next 10 years. Probably he won't be an All-Pro like Silverback but he is going to be pretty good like Jordan Mailata.

I don't think that the team drafting him is gonna regret it.
[ Edited by Monsterniner on Apr 20, 2025 at 12:59 PM ]
Apr 20, 2025 at 1:03 PM
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Georgia Vs Bama next, Williams is subbing a lot, think that's more than rotation, and looks like it might be protecting him, probably due to the ankle injury.

Just failed to set the edge Vs a TE which is a huge no no for me.

Walker has had a couple of decent initial rushes but allowed the Tackle, and then Guard to recover. That's going to be an issue with his lack of length.

I think you're missing the point on Mykel he holds it down in the run game sticks to his gap if the ball carrier runs in his direction he can move / block shed and wrap it up that's his value right now along with his intangibles, he's not Walker or Green going full bore attacking the qb.
Apr 20, 2025 at 1:11 PM
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
I think Walker will do well against the run, off the ball in base downs. Be that as our SAM, or as Greenlaw's replacement. I see a great athlete, with explosion, strength and suddenness. Who plays with his hair on fire and comes with bad intentions.

He's not Dre in coverage or as a run defender. IMO if we're talking about being a straight up off ball LBer, I'm not taking him in the 1st. The value or upside is as an edge rusher…and even that is a projection.

I could say Stewart is a great athlete with explosion, strength and bad intentions all the same. I don't think he should be the pick either.
Apr 20, 2025 at 1:15 PM
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Totally disagree


Originally posted by Monsterniner:
I don't get the hate for Banks.

I think that he is gonna be a solid LT for the next 10 years. Probably he won't be an All-Pro like Silverback but he is going to be pretty good like Jordan Mailata.

I don't think that the team drafting him is gonna regret it.

That's fine. I think Duke is on point with Banks here



[tweet

there's issues there as a run blocker and you know how much Kyle and Co value run blocking.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Apr 20, 2025 at 2:35 PM ]
Apr 20, 2025 at 1:54 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
I think Walker will do well against the run, off the ball in base downs. Be that as our SAM, or as Greenlaw's replacement. I see a great athlete, with explosion, strength and suddenness. Who plays with his hair on fire and comes with bad intentions.

He's not Dre in coverage or as a run defender. IMO if we're talking about being a straight up off ball LBer, I'm not taking him in the 1st. The value or upside is as an edge rusher…and even that is a projection.

I could say Stewart is a great athlete with explosion, strength and bad intentions all the same. I don't think he should be the pick either.

I think Shemar Stewart or Mykel Williams should be the pick, Grant and Harmon would be much safer. I wouldn't mind a CB if they truly find one of them that they believe fits in our scheme but damn we have to reassemble the trenches especially defending the run game.
Apr 20, 2025 at 2:39 PM
Originally posted by Since07:
I think Shemar Stewart or Mykel Williams should be the pick, Grant and Harmon would be much safer. I wouldn't mind a CB if they truly find one of them that they believe fits in our scheme but damn we have to reassemble the trenches especially defending the run game.

For me if I'm looking at what SF values, their scheme and measurables.

Grant isn't gonna be the pick. They want true pass rushers on the interior. They don't value CB enough (and find scheme fit DBs later) either.

I wouldn't want Stewart, but I'll bet money coach K is thinking he's got Ziggy 2.0. Williams fits the profile and can already start in base.

I keep going to Harmon because he fits SF in a ton of ways
Apr 20, 2025 at 3:31 PM
I'm officially all in on Jahdae Barron. Does Kriz finally get his DB #7 Longhorn?






[ Edited by krizay on Apr 20, 2025 at 3:32 PM ]
Apr 20, 2025 at 4:29 PM
Originally posted by krizay:
I'm officially all in on Jahdae Barron. Does Kriz finally get his DB #7 Longhorn?







Apr 20, 2025 at 4:41 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Totally disagree


Originally posted by Monsterniner:
I don't get the hate for Banks.

I think that he is gonna be a solid LT for the next 10 years. Probably he won't be an All-Pro like Silverback but he is going to be pretty good like Jordan Mailata.

I don't think that the team drafting him is gonna regret it.

That's fine. I think Duke is on point with Banks here



[tweet

there's issues there as a run blocker and you know how much Kyle and Co value run blocking.
Im fine with a player who can be "and excellent OG" and also has the ability.to step into a starting LT spot when Trent retires.

Let's face it. There are no sure fire elite All Pro certain players at 11. The guys i would love, Campbell and Membou, also have size issues and will be gone anyway. The edge guys all have question marks and there are so many quality DTs that it makes sense to wait until rds 2 and.3.

Maybe it does make sense to just take Johnson or Barren and solidify the secondary. Regardless , I think a trade down is by far the smart way to go if they can somehow find a trade partner
Search
YouTube
Flipboard
Instagram
Threads
✕
Open Menu Search Share 49ersWebzone