With the 11th overall pick..

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Because they might not be drafting top 11 anytime soon. If OT is there and it's BPA go for it. OT is an impactful position that rarely becomes available via FA. They get overdrafted because of the importance and lack of overall talent.

Colton is more than likely gone in this scenario, which is fine. He's serviceable, but is absolutely replaceable. Trent has maybe 2 yrs left. Also Membou and Campbell can both start at OG for a season.

Not sure why people have an issue with this plan or don't understand it.

and I also acknowledge how SF works in regards to OL and what they value…I don't think that's where they go early.

It depends if you think Cambell or Membou are worth a top 15 pick.

If we go tackle I'd prefer the tackle we take is actually better than McKitvitz. Give me Simmons (torn knee and all) or Banks over Membou and Campbell.

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

#Saints 3x All-Pro RT Ryan Ramczyk is retiring from the NFL. pic.twitter.com/mvb0wPQRsW

— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) April 18, 2025

Saints picking up OT @ 9 now?

I mean they knew he was retiring a while ago. They changed his contract around for it, he hasn't played a football game since dec 2023.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
It depends if you think Cambell or Membou are worth a top 15 pick.

If we go tackle I'd prefer the tackle we take is actually better than McKitvitz. Give me Simmons (torn knee and all) or Banks over Membou and Campbell.

They're absolutely worth a top 15 pick in this draft.
theres a reason why both are probably gone before pick 11 anyway. They are also both better than Colton.

They will be on a rookie contract, while Colton will get overpaid elsewhere. Go look at what Aaron Banks and Moore got. Dude is gonna get like 3yrs $45M and no one here thinks he's worth that.

banks imo is not a starting OT in the NFL. Can he play there, sure. He would be playing out of position. Simmons has a torn patella tendon, let's stop f**king around with those types of injures.

your distain for Membou is weird and you have not given me any substance as to why? Outside that he's not 6-5.

I'd be thrilled with Membou or Campbell. I'd be ok with Banks. I'd be happy with Harmon or Nolen. I'd have to talk myself into Stewart, Green or Will Johnson at 11.

Originally posted by Second2Nunley:
I'd be thrilled with Membou or Campbell. I'd be ok with Banks. I'd be happy with Harmon or Nolen. I'd have to talk myself into Stewart, Green or Will Johnson at 11.

I would have no problem with Mykel Williams at 11 at this point. I would have been able to get on board with Green if not for the DV stuff.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I would have no problem with Mykel Williams at 11 at this point. I would have been able to get on board with Green if not for the DV stuff.

Green is the only DE i liked that is projected to go around this spot. the DV stuff is reason I'm out as well.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
They're absolutely worth a top 15 pick in this draft.
theres a reason why both are probably gone before pick 11 anyway. They are also both better than Colton.

They will be on a rookie contract, while Colton will get overpaid elsewhere. Go look at what Aaron Banks and Moore got. Dude is gonna get like 3yrs $45M and no one here thinks he's worth that.

banks imo is not a starting OT in the NFL. Can he play there, sure. He would be playing out of position. Simmons has a torn patella tendon, let's stop f**king around with those types of injures.

your distain for Membou is weird and you have not given me any substance as to why? Outside that he's not 6-5.

I think the only reason they both go top 15 is because it's such a terrible OT draft. They both seem like guys who would go in the 20's or top half of round 2 in any other draft.

As for Membou, I've said it before, I want guys with length. 6'7, 320 pound guys with 35 inch arms. Membou is barely 6'4. There aren't many OT's in the league who are barely 6'4 for a reason. And no, he's not Rashawn Slater. At best he is Zach Tom in my opinion. He could be a serviceable RT but I want more than serviceable with the 11th overall pick.

You mention Banks playing out of position but at least he has played LT unlike Membou. Membou is a RT or RG only IMO. He has not proven he can play LT. It's not as easy as you make it seem.

And what did it for me was that cut up vs Texas A&M. He got help on over half the pass block sets vs Shemar Stewart and Nic Scourton. The coaches schemed that up. If he is such a dominant player why would his own coaches not have the faith in him to handle 1 on 1's vs those guys?

The whole point in spending a 1st on an OT would be to free up Kittle for more routes. Not to be left in to block to help Membou on the right side.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I would have no problem with Mykel Williams at 11 at this point. I would have been able to get on board with Green if not for the DV stuff.

Green is the only DE i liked that is projected to go around this spot. the DV stuff is reason I'm out as well.

no way I am taking a guy with flags. Every time they take that risk it bites them in the ass.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
I think the only reason they both go top 15 is because it's such a terrible OT draft. They both seem like guys who would go in the 20's or top half of round 2 in any other draft.

As for Membou, I've said it before, I want guys with length. 6'7, 320 pound guys with 35 inch arms. Membou is barely 6'4. There aren't many OT's in the league who are barely 6'4 for a reason. And no, he's not Rashawn Slater. At best he is Zach Tom in my opinion. He could be a serviceable RT but I want more than serviceable with the 11th overall pick.

You mention Banks playing out of position but at least he has played LT unlike Membou. Membou is a RT or RG only IMO. He has not proven he can play LT. It's not as easy as you make it seem.

And what did it for me was that cut up vs Texas A&M. He got help on over half the pass block sets vs Shemar Stewart and Nic Scourton. The coaches schemed that up. If he is such a dominant player why would his own coaches not have the faith in him to handle 1 on 1's vs those guys?

The whole point in spending a 1st on an OT would be to free up Kittle for more routes. Not to be left in to block to help Membou on the right side.

First off here's one of the best OL coaches/minds talking about Banks…


I don't want 6' 7" OT with s**t leverage. Being that tall is not always an advantage as a OT.

he's got longer arms than Jason Peters, Fuaga, Penei Sewell etc. 33 1/2 arms is not elite, it's also the past the threshold.

same length as Mitchell Schwartz and Ryan Ramczyk, Joe Staley.

Same exact body as Duane Brown who played in the league at LT for like 15+ yrs.

same height as Bakhtiari. Christian Darrisaw is less than 1/2 an inch taller lol.

Jake Matthews was a top 10 pick and has been the starting LT for over a decade in ATL. He's damn near the same size.

he's near the same size (heavier) as our starting LT last yr Jaylon Moore.

Again in this long debate you've offered nothing of substance in regards to FLIM as to why he can't be a damn good OT on either side?

And oh please with the Kittle nonsense, he had 58 snaps PBLKing last yr. That's such a made up thing when debating him and Kyle. You're out of your mind if you think Membou would be a liability, especially compared to who's already there. Kid is 21 and has a ton of room to develop. His combine backs up how athletic he is on film.

Sorry I'm gonna listen to guys like Duke and Thorn a little more than someone in the WZ regarding OL and those prospects BEST fit in the NFL.

Thorn and Duke- Banks OG
Thorn-Membou OT1
Duke-Campbell-OT1A Membou OT1B

Also going off how SF operates and past comments from their OL coach…I don't expect OT to be the pick at 11.

that doesn't mean it would be a bad pick based on who's got a chance to be available in THIS draft. Importance of position and future needs.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Also going off how SF operates and past comments from their OL coach…I don't expect OT to be the pick at 11.

that doesn't mean it would be a bad pick based on who's got a chance to be available in THIS draft. Importance of position and future needs.

Hey NY, what type of coffee do you drink? Hot damn.. you're throwing bombs left and right this early! Good stuff.

Interesting dichotomy when it comes to how you view the picks in front of you.

If you want to draft for a need at 11, you want:

Jeanty going in the top 10
Shadeur going in the top 10.
2 TEs going in the top 10.

This gives a better chance of a top DT/OT falling back to you.

If you want to trade back, I think you want:

Jeanty on the board. Could be flip with Dallas, possibly move back to 20 with Denver.
Shadeur on the board. I think 4 QBs go in round 1. 11 could be the spot where other teams position themselves to get the one of their choosing.
1 TE still on the board. Creates urgency for the Colts to move up.

Originally posted by frankieuc68:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Also going off how SF operates and past comments from their OL coach…I don't expect OT to be the pick at 11.

that doesn't mean it would be a bad pick based on who's got a chance to be available in THIS draft. Importance of position and future needs.

Hey NY, what type of coffee do you drink? Hot damn.. you're throwing bombs left and right this early! Good stuff.

this is draft season

recent trend back to running the ball, and we are weak with IDL. even with this trend it's still a passing league and we need a top corner. i'd be fine if we take a premier corner at 11. but this club likes to operate by winning up front, and that helping the back end. so everyone is thinking DL / EDGE