With the 11th overall pick..

Originally posted by genus49:
Worst mock I may have seen in this whole offseason

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— Thor Nystrom (@thorku) April 8, 2025

To save people clicks...dude has us trading up to #5 overall to draft Tyler Warren and picking up a 5th rounder while giving away #43.

Trading up to #5 to select an offensive weapon!! I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and call him an offensive weapon, not a TE. And that would still piss me off if they traded all the way up for him!!!!

I'm against trading up even for Mason Graham, the 49ers would be better off acquiring a couple of picks instead of trading a couple of picks.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
On one hand I want to on the other

Bad enough that folks want to take him at 11, let alone moving up to 5 for a TE

With the way the defense is right now, I wouldn't even draft CMC if he was there at #11.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by genus49:
Seriously. Not even sold on Warren being clear cut TE1 in this class and we move up with a ton of holes to fill and grab a friggin TE2???

That would be like the Draft Day move if the Browns actually had Myles Garrett on the roster....and even then it would make more sense cuz you still have 2 DEs playing at the same time.

Loveland is a better pass catching TE imo. He can actually separate. Warren was schemed up so much at PSU.

moving top 5 for a TE is a all-time Mike Ditka draft move Warren would have it be the next Tony Gonzalez to justify that crazy s**t

I want to start by saying trading up for Warren would STUPID. Taking him 11 I can understand wouldn't love it. Wouldn't hate it.

That said, you keep posting how he can't separate and it's completely not true. Yes a good portion of his catches are against zone defense or screens/picks I will say that. However, when he does go against man to man I'm seeing him win more times than not. The majority of his losses are on the go route. He gets zero separation there. But every other route I'm seeing him win more often than not.

So just because majority of his highlights is Against zones or schemed doesn't mean he can't beat it.

Also Warren fits this team 1000x better than Loveland. Kyle would be able to do so much more with him than Colton IMO

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Trading up to #5 to select an offensive weapon!! I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and call him an offensive weapon, not a TE. And that would still piss me off if they traded all the way up for him!!!!

I'm against trading up even for Mason Graham, the 49ers would be better off acquiring a couple of picks instead of trading a couple of picks.

Yup; I wouldn't trade up for anyone. Only time you trade up into the top 10 is for a QB IMO because of the capital you need to give up.

This draft really aligns with our needs and has depth where we need it. We can easily walk away with multiple starters and contributors year 1 if they do it right.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Trading up to #5 to select an offensive weapon!! I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and call him an offensive weapon, not a TE. And that would still piss me off if they traded all the way up for him!!!!

I'm against trading up even for Mason Graham, the 49ers would be better off acquiring a couple of picks instead of trading a couple of picks.

Yup; I wouldn't trade up for anyone. Only time you trade up into the top 10 is for a QB IMO because of the capital you need to give up.

This draft really aligns with our needs and has depth where we need it. We can easily walk away with multiple starters and contributors year 1 if they do it right.

Totally agree with everything, no one really trades into the top 5-10 for a defensive player. QB is the only position you give up the farm for.

Just think if they traded down they could really beef up their D-line or defense in general. Would really like to see them come outta this draft with two DT's and two LB's. The only two offensive players I'm really hoping they draft is Savion Williams and Cam Skattebo. Other than that it's all defense for me.

Oh wouldn't mind QB Brady Cook with a late pick.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Trading up to #5 to select an offensive weapon!! I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and call him an offensive weapon, not a TE. And that would still piss me off if they traded all the way up for him!!!!

I'm against trading up even for Mason Graham, the 49ers would be better off acquiring a couple of picks instead of trading a couple of picks.

Yup; I wouldn't trade up for anyone. Only time you trade up into the top 10 is for a QB IMO because of the capital you need to give up.

This draft really aligns with our needs and has depth where we need it. We can easily walk away with multiple starters and contributors year 1 if they do it right.

Totally agree with everything, no one really trades into the top 5-10 for a defensive player. QB is the only position you give up the farm for.

Just think if they traded down they could really beef up their D-line or defense in general. Would really like to see them come outta this draft with two DT's and two LB's. The only two offensive players I'm really hoping they draft is Savion Williams and Cam Skattebo. Other than that it's all defense for me.

Oh wouldn't mind QB Brady Cook with a late pick.

I'm team trade down too. Buuuuuut; there's 3 players I wouldn't hesitate taking if there at 11.

Mason Graham obviously
Jalon Walker
Will Johnson

If Jeanty is available at 11, I can see a team dealing w the Niners so they can get ahead of Dallas. Would be great to move back to the late teens/ early 20's and pick up another 2nd or 3rd.

Originally posted by krizay:
I want to start by saying trading up for Warren would STUPID. Taking him 11 I can understand wouldn't love it. Wouldn't hate it.

That said, you keep posting how he can't separate and it's completely not true. Yes a good portion of his catches are against zone defense or screens/picks I will say that. However, when he does go against man to man I'm seeing him win more times than not. The majority of his losses are on the go route. He gets zero separation there. But every other route I'm seeing him win more often than not.

So just because majority of his highlights is Against zones or schemed doesn't mean he can't beat it.

Also Warren fits this team 1000x better than Loveland. Kyle would be able to do so much more with him than Colton IMO

Agree to disagree. I don't see an elite separator. Not for a top 11 pick at TE.

I'm not trying to put Loveland over Warren for SF. I don't want either at our current pick. I think Loveland is a better pass catcher.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by krizay:
I want to start by saying trading up for Warren would STUPID. Taking him 11 I can understand wouldn't love it. Wouldn't hate it.

That said, you keep posting how he can't separate and it's completely not true. Yes a good portion of his catches are against zone defense or screens/picks I will say that. However, when he does go against man to man I'm seeing him win more times than not. The majority of his losses are on the go route. He gets zero separation there. But every other route I'm seeing him win more often than not.

So just because majority of his highlights is Against zones or schemed doesn't mean he can't beat it.

Also Warren fits this team 1000x better than Loveland. Kyle would be able to do so much more with him than Colton IMO

Agree to disagree. I don't see an elite separator. Not for a top 11 pick at TE.

I'm not trying to put Loveland over Warren for SF. I don't want either at our current pick. I think Loveland is a better pass catcher.

I actually agree with this. I don't see elite separator either. Though I think he separates adequately.

I too think Loveland is the better pure pass catchers.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
On one hand I want to on the other

Bad enough that folks want to take him at 11, let alone moving up to 5 for a TE

I don't want a TE at 11.

But I'm not gonna get mad if we draft Warren. He's a great player.

I'll find a way to like it esp if we address the defense with the next few picks.

I'll take Warren over guys like Stewart or Banks. Damn the need i don't like those players.

I just want to draft a great player

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Totally agree with everything, no one really trades into the top 5-10 for a defensive player. QB is the only position you give up the farm for.

Just think if they traded down they could really beef up their D-line or defense in general. Would really like to see them come outta this draft with two DT's and two LB's. The only two offensive players I'm really hoping they draft is Savion Williams and Cam Skattebo. Other than that it's all defense for me.

Oh wouldn't mind QB Brady Cook with a late pick.

I think rule of thumb should be to not trade into the top 10 for anything out of a potential star qb but I wouldn't say "never". Especially from 11 to like 8, it wouldn't be giving up the farm.

I generally agree with you on this topic, I just wouldn't say never. If you love a player and want to move up a few spots to secure him - I'd understand and hope he's worth it.

lets not forget that 90%+ of these guys won't live up to their draft pick. I just hope we get 11 studs - whether that's starters, future starters/quality backups, and quality special team play. I just hope each pick is a good pick who positively contributes - we need all the help we can get.

on a side note - I think we still make moves on the Dline. I'd be a little surprised if our entire interior d line are all rookies.

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
I don't want a TE at 11.

But I'm not gonna get mad if we draft Warren. He's a great player.

I'll find a way to like it esp if we address the defense with the next few picks.

I'll take Warren over guys like Stewart or Banks. Damn the need i don't like those players.

I just want to draft a great player

If Warren is there I'm taking a 3rd from the colts, I'm not drafting a TE at 11.

banks is growing on me. The more I get to watch (whatever I can find) and read the more I get it. IMO he's not gonna make it past the phins. OT get taken high,

Originally posted by 49ers808:
Yup; I wouldn't trade up for anyone. Only time you trade up into the top 10 is for a QB IMO because of the capital you need to give up.

This draft really aligns with our needs and has depth where we need it. We can easily walk away with multiple starters and contributors year 1 if they do it right.

I don't agree with that. I would trade up for a non QB plus the trade capital would not be the same as it would for a QB. For instance if we wanted to trade up to 3 this year to select Abdul Carter it wouldn't cost us nearly as what it did for the Lance pick. Probably could do it for a 2nd and a 3rd.

I wouldn't do it this year but if you think your 1 player away and you're convinced that player is him then I don't see a problem.

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Will Campbell is the perfect fit for Kyle Shanahan's offense with the 49ers pic.twitter.com/MghaWkP48g

— PFF (@PFF) April 8, 2025

I think you can do that with Membou and banks as well