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Originally posted by Hysterikal:
This offense doesn't lack playmakers it lacks in both sides of the trenches. We do not need another weapon that won't get enough targets. Hell we can subtract 1 playmaker and just get the ball to Kittle more and would honestly be better.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
This offense doesn't lack playmakers it lacks in both sides of the trenches. We do not need another weapon that won't get enough targets. Hell we can subtract 1 playmaker and just get the ball to Kittle more and would honestly be better.
Agreed, and if the goal is to have him take Juice's snaps that's a total waste of his talents.
Originally posted by Izyniner:
Speaking of Juice what about Scattabo as a replacement. 5-11 and 215 could use a little more weight runs a 4.6. He seems to have the right mindset for a full back.
Unless a little-known injury is a factor, Cam Skattebo's pass protection could limit his opportunities early.
— Matt Waldman (@MattWaldman) February 1, 2025
Overextension is rampant. The impact:
- Telegraphs
- Can't see where to strike
- Defender gets 1st contact w/hands
- Easy counters
Work needed. #NFLDraft pic.twitter.com/meB6IEKiBr
The Cam Skattebo Headbutt
— Matt Waldman (@MattWaldman) February 1, 2025
I've seen this in multiple games as his de facto approach to contact blitzes. It's odd, it's ineffective, and unless he's training for a new career in the squared circle, it could limit his opportunities until he fixes his pass pro.#NFLDraft pic.twitter.com/XwREXq1mg2
Johnny Knoxville--aka Cam Skattebo: Headbutt off the ropes...#NFLDraft pic.twitter.com/KB5AzyzZBB
— Matt Waldman (@MattWaldman) February 1, 2025
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Agreed, and if the goal is to have him take Juice's snaps that's a total waste of his talents.
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Agreed, and if the goal is to have him take Juice's snaps that's a total waste of his talents.
Not take his position. Just playing time.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Most of juice's playing time is out of the backfield. It's run blocking/pass blocking and yes motioning out. He's not a true receiver. IMO that's a waste of his talent if those are the snaps he's getting.
IMO they would have to change their offensive philosophy. Like Hysterikal said, we don't need more playmakers, we need to build the trenches. Just my two cents
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Not sure why the draft discussion thread is locked but if the draft went like this I would be so pumped lol
My Mock 1.0 is officially live. What do you love? What do you hate? What pick made me lose my credibility? What pick was problematic?https://t.co/XdNQX3pdjn
— Lance Zierlein (@LanceZierlein) February 3, 2025
he also doesn't have Graham as his top DT
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Here's what I'd do at 11, in order of preference
Abdul Carter Jr, EDGE
Trade for Myles Garrett, DE
Mason Graham, DT
Shemar Stewart, DE
Joshua Simmons (if healthy), OT
Will Johnson, CB
Malaki Starks, S
Will Campell, OL
Small Trade Down
Armand Membou, OT
Medium Trade Down
Jahdae Barron, DB
Mike Green, EDGE
Large Trade Down
Josh Connerly, OT
Tyler Warren, TE
James Pearce, EDGE
Simmons is off my board in the 1st couple rds with a torn Patellar tendon. That is a rough injury to come back from. A lot of dudes aren't the same after.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Not sure why the draft discussion thread is locked but if the draft went like this I would be so pumped lol
My Mock 1.0 is officially live. What do you love? What do you hate? What pick made me lose my credibility? What pick was problematic?https://t.co/XdNQX3pdjn
— Lance Zierlein (@LanceZierlein) February 3, 2025
he also doesn't have Graham as his top DT
Sign me the hell up!
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Here's what I'd do at 11, in order of preference
Abdul Carter Jr, EDGE
Trade for Myles Garrett, DE
Mason Graham, DT
Shemar Stewart, DE
Joshua Simmons (if healthy), OT
Will Johnson, CB
Malaki Starks, S
Will Campell, OL
Small Trade Down
Armand Membou, OT
Medium Trade Down
Jahdae Barron, DB
Mike Green, EDGE
Large Trade Down
Josh Connerly, OT
Tyler Warren, TE
James Pearce, EDGE
Simmons is off my board in the 1st couple rds with a torn Patellar tendon. That is a rough injury to come back from. A lot of dudes aren't the same after.
Originally posted by krizay:
Lol yeah I think you're too fixated on the Juice aspect of this. No one is saying line him up like Juice. Even though without looking it up id bet Juice was lined up at TE or WR more than he was at FB. So i dont think there would be that much of a philosophy change.
Anyway, I agree we need to build the trenches. Imo, though you can always get DT and OG in any draft. Especially in this draft. You aren't always in position for a TE like Warren/Colston or RB like Jeanty. We can't look at the draft from a one year window. Can't just look at what we need this year. We also have to look at the make up of your team for years to come. Warren/Colston could be Brock's main guy for years to come. We seen what CMC meant to us in Kyle's offense. Imagine Kyle having him his whole career. Jeanty could be that. So we miss out on that because of our needs this year?
As I'm typing this it's hitting me that you don't seem to like any of the OTs at 11. I know you don't like OG/C at 11. I don't recall you really liking any DL at 11 other than I assume Graham or Carter. So you want to build the trenches you say, who exactly would you draft to build said trenches? If no one is worthy of the #11 pick?
Originally posted by genus49:
Do we know the actual injury? I've seen the torn patellar tendon which is a major red flag but also saw ACL. Is it both?
Even with the ACL I'd avoid him just knowing our damn luck with injury picks. Just can't take that risk. We have to nail this pick and eliminating key risk factors from the selection is important.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Not sure why the draft discussion thread is locked but if the draft went like this I would be so pumped lol
My Mock 1.0 is officially live. What do you love? What do you hate? What pick made me lose my credibility? What pick was problematic?https://t.co/XdNQX3pdjn
— Lance Zierlein (@LanceZierlein) February 3, 2025
he also doesn't have Graham as his top DT
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Not sure why the draft discussion thread is locked but if the draft went like this I would be so pumped lol
My Mock 1.0 is officially live. What do you love? What do you hate? What pick made me lose my credibility? What pick was problematic?https://t.co/XdNQX3pdjn
— Lance Zierlein (@LanceZierlein) February 3, 2025
he also doesn't have Graham as his top DT
Sign me the hell up!
Don't give me hope
Originally posted by NYniner85:
I want to trade down and acquire more picks. Nolen and Stewart are interesting prospects. Would love them more moving down a little.
I'm not interested in a RB or TE when we have elite level talent there right now and on the books. Like others said we have a hard enough time spreading the ball around as it is. Unless Kyle has changed his philosophy, he's said he's always gonna have a FB.
my money is on it being a DL in the first, based on lack of talent at OL and how this team operates.
as far as juice lining up as a TE, SF was 31st in 12 personnel usage last yr.